What if a dirty bomb hit near you? Do you have a plan?

[Wcross]

Just out of curiousity, do you have a plan if you were forced to leave your home? I am concerned about those that live in heavily populated areas that could be a terror target. What would you do?

[jobycom]

1. Die, I guess.

If I lived, I'd move someplace else until the radiation faded away. You know, the next 30K years or so.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

9. The half life of Pu235 is 85 years....

And that's refined to the point of being used in Cassini and other Spacecraft...


The chances of others getting enough shit to be a terrorist bomb are pretty slim.

It would be more efficient to build a nuke.

Terror! Be afraid!

[cry baby]

2. I've got my duct tape and plastic sheeting all ready to go!

[lonestarnot]

15. LOL

[Catherine Vincent]

30. LOL!

I had to laugh at that. I've got mine too but that didn't even come to mind. :-)

[Azadre]

3. FUD?

I would not plan anything, I am no more afraid of a dirty bomb's radiation than I am my computer monitors.

[htuttle]

4. If there is a dirty bomb near you, stay indoors for crying out loud!

Going outside and travelling around through it would be the worst thing you could do.

And don't bother taking the iodine tablets unless there's a release of radioactive steam -- it doesn't help with anything else.

[undergroundpanther]

5. Take an iodine pill

Give one to my loved ones and all my cats..and see if it works or wait to die.
Eat the shit I got in my cupboards..until radiaton sickness kills me and I leave this fucked up planet rife with too many ignorant self serving assholes..on it with too much power they never deserved ... forever.

[frankly_fedup2]

13. So where can you buy these over the counter? Also, I'm hypo-

thyroid. Won't that affect my thyroid more so then those with a normal thyroid? I know those that are hyperthyroid have the Iodine and that kills their thyroid and they have to take synthroid (just like I do). So what does the Iodine do? I like your symbol. I just read this and I sound 10 years old (sorry).

[undergroundpanther]

17. They seel iodine pills online

It fills your thyroid with iodine so your body gets less radiation in it.


http://www.radiation-pills.com/News___Links/Nuclear_War/Selected_Index/selected_index.htm

[frankly_fedup2]

43. Thank you (nt)

[Wcross]

72. I bought some even though I am far from any target.

That is unless they want to kill some cows and country bumpkins.

[Solololo]

71. ...hypochondriac? Huh? What?

Hehehe... I'm hypoglycemic (not really, and not sure on the spelling there either). It was just my guess as to how your "subject" finished up in the "message body".

What would I do if I survived a messy bomb? Hmmm... I'd probably do my best to make an opportunity of it. Sell bottled water for ridiculous prices, shoeboxes full of crap called "EMERGENCY MESSY BOMB SURVIVAL KIT": a Snicker bar, a couple of band aids, dental floss, paper clips, anything that I can find on my bedroom floor. Hopefully, catch up with the truck to raid, loot and liberate merchandise being held hostage by retailers.

The usual...

[htuttle]

16. I believe that so-called 'dirty bombs' are much like fallout

...But in a much smaller area.

With fallout from a nuclear blast, it's unlikely to affect you unless you physically come in contact with it. A smarter person than me can provide more details, but particles of uranium, for example, only emit certain types of radiation (Gamma? Alpha? Beta? don't remember...) -- mostly stuff that is blocked by building materials. Nuclear blasts themselves can emit much worse radiation -- stuff that can go through concrete, etc...but the subsequent fallout only emits radiation that is harmful in very close contact.

I've read that you can allow all the solid particles to precipitate out of a fallout-contaminated container of water and safely pull water off of the top, for example.

And keep in mind, finally, that most dirty bombs are only going to affect a fairly small area -- probably measured in blocks, not square miles (unless conditions are just right -- or rather, just 'wrong'...).

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. I just bought a bottle. Better safe than sorry. n/t

[shanti]

68. colloidal silver

is supposed to be helpful too.

[jsamuel]

6. move to montana and duct tape myself to a desk while ducking and covering

[Roon]

7. My parents live in a rural area..

but still within an hour's drive, I have always planned to go there if the shit ever hit the fan.

[Nye Bevan]

8. I did buy some of those iodine tablets...

a long time ago when I read an article about how they protect you against thyroid cancer when there is high radiation.

I know I put them somewhere safe but I can't remember where....

I guess I'm not as prepared as I should be.

[kitkat65]

14. Sorry, but this made me laugh - I've got some water in the basement

and that's about it.

[Roy]

22. Good, I'll bring the soap...

We'll get that dirty bomb cleaned up in no time.

Are we supposed to get scared now, and then go vote for W. so he can protect us from those dirty ole bombs?????

[The Stranger]

52. This thread has got to be the thread of the year.

As if anyone would give a shit about "diry" bombing the hellhole where I live. Actually, it might be an improvement.

(Okay, I think am beginning to get a little too cynical again).

[n2doc]

64. Actually, I think it already happened

down here in south texas. The refineries have been "dirty bombing" us for years....

[DawnneOBTS]

10. Oh, well...

it would have sucked to have to put up with that no good bastard until January 2009 anyway.

[Hubert Flottz]

11. I've been watching out for "Frog Men" like I was warned to do...

so I ain't too scared! It's these 10 chemical plants in this valley I'm afraid of! The chemical companies can all dump anything they want in the air or water now and the GOPers don't give a shit!

[VADem11]

12. Stay Inside

I live 7 miles from DC so I guess going outside wouldn't do much good.

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. "Dirty bomb" is a fraud.

It would have little or no effect, it is a useless myth.

[Nabia2004]

74. Correct, fear of a real nuke has me thinking

I live in a major port city. The possibility of a nuke hidden in a shipping container is what bugs me.

[Ian David]

19. If you're a Democrat, stay indoors.

If you're a Republican, take a large dose of colloidal silver and run as fast as you can with the wind at your back.

[Cleita]

20. I live near a nuclear power plant.

They have already distributed those anti-radiation pills to us (sorry, I can't remember the name) just in case. It probably wouldn't hurt for everyone to keep a small supply of them in the first aid cabinet. Other than that I don't know what else you can do.

[BrotherBuzz]

21. Of course I got a plan....

and interestingly enough, it meshes pretty well with my west coast earthquake drill. My ten year old knows the drill, too, and would probably maintain a calmer head then his parents.

[lastknowngood]

23. Do nothing! The truth is a "dirty bomb" will be extremal localized

any biological agent would be destroyed in the explosion and radiation would only affect a small localized area. It's bull shit and nothing to worry about at all. I'm a former NBC "Nuclear, Biological and Chemical" officer not WMDs a name change to scare you. A dirty bomb would be less effective than a explosive one.

[BrotherBuzz]

26. I mostly agree, but you should do something if you're in the Bullseye

something like...trot away to a safe distance till the cleanup boys do their thing. It could take hours or days and it might be prudent to have a contingency plan on hand. Same goes for earthquakes, floods, and forest fires.
:shrug:

[NuttyFluffers]

83. well, trot away, but don't go freaking out or drive to the next state...

your gonna need to stay pretty close by to get decontaminated if it is a strong one. but for the most part this is hyped nonsense.

latest national geographic (the one about oil and alternatives) has a great article about 60 yrs with the nuclear bomb. it shows the size, power, and danger of atomic, hydrogen, and "dirty bomb." for the most part it's nothing to worry about.

[Wcross]

75. I disagree a bit.

It is a matter of how muck radioactive material you can manage to collect and deliver without being detected. The weather would contribute to your success or failure also. A nice windy day and nature will help you in your efforts. Rain would hamper you.
I think the point of a dirty bomb is more area denial rather than immediate death. What if you could make an area dangerous to be in? It could be anything from the mall in D.C. to Disneyland. Would that not be a victory for those that would do us harm?

I guess I am getting paranoid in my old age............

[kentuck]

24. Yeah, stick my head between my legs and....

kiss my ass goodbye. Now Iw on't ever be able to sleep again. Oh my! What shall we do? Shaking nervously like a dog shitting a peach seed...

[unhappycamper]

40. Like this?

[CHIMO]

25. No

But if a clean bomb, that only kills, goes off I know I should duck.

[Strelnikov_]

32. Duck . . . AND Cover

I don't know what to do without a school desk around.

[Dr Fate]

27. Get laid.

n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

28. The only thing I would think to do is for me and my family to head over

to where my older brother lives, which is the next state over. It is a small town. He and his wife has a lot of room (land wise) but some of us may have to live in tents. It's scarey just to think about it.

[ConfuZed]

29. Except dying there isnt much you could do :)

[karlrschneider]

31. I have a couple bottles of "Kaboom"...wouldn't that CLEAN a dirty bomb?

:eyes:

[walldude]

33. Pray I mutate into an X-Man...

[OrlandoGator]

38. I call dibs on controlling magnetism.

n/t

[Strelnikov_]

34. A Dirty Bomb Is Primarily An Economic Weapon

Human radiologic effects can be minimized with proper decontamination.

However, if set off in a high dollar urban area, the real estate losses could be massive, since clean up (to safe levels) would be extremely difficult, if not impossible.

[Ian David]

35. Exactly. A dirty bomb mostly just renders real estate useless.

If a dirty bomb went off a couple blocks from your house, you'd have to stay home, call your insurance company, and then get a good night's sleep in your own bed.

In the morning, you'd need to get on the subway and find a nice hotel a couple miles away (and maybe dispose of your clothing).

Your home, your car, and everything in it might be rendered un-usable. I don't know if you can put contaminated clothing in a washing machine and be able to wear them again.

The real threat will be from the mass-panic as people over-react in various ways. Including poisoning themselves unnecessarily with iodine pills.

[Kingshakabobo]

45. IIRC, insurance won't cover acts of "war". I'm sure big insurance...

will use that out.

Anyone have any insight in to the insurance piece? I don't think nuclear war would be covered and I'm thinking that would include a dirty bomb?

[elehhhhna]

41. Come on! Our EPA would declare it "Better Than Before!" next day.

Rats dead, no vermin. Probably RAISE re prices!

[porphyrian]

36. Lose my hair and bleed out.

However, I'm more likely to die in an automobile accident, so I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[pointblank]

37. I am.

I have my duct tape, plastic sheeting, shotgun, bible, picture of GWB, 16 cases of Pabst, 45 cases of MREs, and my shortwave radio all in my underground shelter ready to go.

[Wcross]

76. Yer screwed dude!

With 16 cases of beer and a shotgun, the only art on the wall is "*"? Best of luck to ya!

[tx_dem41]

42. Since a "dirty bomb" is waaaayy over-hyped....

I guess, I would hope for at least a slight breeze in the opposite direction as I am.

Don't believe the hype!

[Kingshakabobo]

44. Take to the roads with my roving gang of thugs and steal your gas. n/t

[AngryAmish]

51. Ha! We got you beat.

You see, we have the last oil well. We have set up a nice compound in the desert (with an armored school bus for a front gate). Lots of hot chicks in here. And a ratty little kid.

I don't see how you guys have a chance with no girls, Lord Humongus.

[htuttle]

62. Ha! You just wait...

One day, you'll need to stop in at a trading settlement for some tools or clothing, and that's the day that you'll find out who runs Bartertown!

[hunter]

67. I have a telepathic dog, a wife, and kids.

We're all pretty tough. No fascist siren is going to lure me down into the dark amongst the clowns wearing overalls and flannel shirts.

[AngryAmish]

84. One should avoid the sewers

I heard there are C.H.U.D. down there.

[Solly Mack]

46. Well actually, Yes, I do have a plan...

I'm going to stay inside. Turn on the news.

If I'm out and about (and within the dispersal zone) I'm going to go home, remove clothing, take a shower, save my clothing for testing and then see a doctor. I'm also going to turn on the news.

If I'm at the actual blast (ground zero) that causes the dispersal, be sure and party over my grave....or at least pretend I've never looked better while visiting me in the burn unit and or ICU of the hospital.


The biggest thing I'm not going to do is worry about it.


My husband is a former NBC instructor with a HAZMAT certification.

[no_to_war_economy]

47. find the nearest Bush support and

kick the shit out of them

[tavalon]

82. Once again

My "no liquids at the computer while reading DU" has proved useful.

Thank you for the belly laugh.

[patcox2]

48. You don't need one, its the most overrated threat there is.

Close your windows and doors, wait a while, presto, your as okay as your gonna be. If your far enough away not to be injuerd by the blast, you'll be okay unless you eat whatever substance they use.

[Connie_Corleone]

49. Tape plastic to all my windows and doors...

and die of suffocation.

[Carni]

50. I guess my family could at least FINALLY take some time off of work

Something that we haven't been able to do in the last 4 years because we are so strapped (thanks bush you asshole)

Dirty bombs? That is the very least of my F'ing worries!

[henslee]

53. Do the Ickie shuffle???

[d_b]

54. Duct-tape and spam

[XNASA]

55. I lived in Houston for 6 years. I have built up immunity.

I scoff at the notion of a dirty bomb.

[earth mom]

56. Here's some info:

http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm

Found this from a link on another message board. I do not know anything else about this site-I'm just the messenger.

[Spike from MN]

57. Blame Clinton. Then invade Iran.

Isn't that what I'm supposed to do?

:sarcasm:

[CrispyQ]

58. Break out the

50 year old Scotch & a bag of kind & play cards.

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. Having lived in Boston, NY and DC....

and now living near a sentimental target if not a strategic one, I can't get all wrapped around the axle on this. I guess I'm a fatalist but what happens happens.

[sweetheart]

60. The dirty bomb of the local nuclear plant

Doon the coast from 'ere is a nuclear plant, Dounreay. It has been
cited for numerous accidents, and several hundred thousand particles
of nuclear fuel are washing in a plume towards where i live. To shop,
i pass this "dirty bomb" and its security apparatus, the paranoia of
attack and the looks of secrecy. There are cancer clusters, that remain
unearthed, nuclear workers are in more danger "in" the plant than
civilians are outside of it (being that the "dirty bomb" is the largest
local employer" next to tourism (not to mention the affects it would
have on that if they knew the extent of the nuclear dumping and the
dangers of the coastline on tourist guides)

Well, so your question makes me think, well, i *DO* live near a
big dirty bomb explosion, and i expect to perhaps die early from my
choice of "cheaper" housing near a nuclear accident masquaerading as
a plant. I'm sure flats are cheaper in chernbyl these days.

So my plan is to accept the fact of the dirty bomb and get on with it.

Then again, it keeps away the property developers as well, so there
is a sorta nice knockon effect. In that regard, dirty bombs are kinda
a blessing in disguise to bird populations and stuff, sorta like
how chernobyl is more biodiverse as a human-depopulated area.

So my dead remains, may they rot in biodiversity. :-)

[hunter]

69. Dounreay is interesting...

I pulled this up from google:

http://www.zetnet.co.uk/oigs/n-base/dounreay.htm

[SlavesandBulldozers]

61. yes.

first I'll pick my brother and all his good friends up from school in a beat-up pick-up truck. from there we'll dodge RPG fire and head to a sporting-goods store and stock up on rifles, toilet-paper, wheaties, bullets, lanterns, flashlights and batteries. .. then we head for the mountains and hide out. from our mountain outpost we'll ambush as many arabs, russians and nicaraguans as possible. defending america from the foreign horde that seeks our destruction - aided by some beautiful women that can we use to repopulate new america with pure-american blood.

it won't be easy, but we're going to be all out of options. we will fight, so that this nation shall not perish from this earth.

what were we talking about again?

[nookiemonster]

63. Thanks alot.

So much for repressing bad memories. Ugh. Noooooo..

[SlavesandBulldozers]

80. sorry man.

but thanks for reading.

;)

[izzybeans]

65. Duct tape, plastic sheeting, and my head under a school desk

all of it keeps nuclear bombs from entering my skin.

[YOY]

66. Go into Vault 13 of course!

but I bring an extra waterchip to save my ancestor the trouble of finding a new one!

[LiveWire]

70. Someone break out the pickup truck, we're going lootin'!

After the fallout of course.

[Orsino]

73. Cover my house with magnetic "Support The Troops" ribbons.

Take that, Mr. Bin Laden.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

77. Change my underwear. Drink a rum beverage.

Not necessarily in that order.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

78. I worry about terrorism to the same degree that I worry about these:

1) Getting struck by lightning
2) Catching leprosy

[Dudley_DUright]

79. Yes, and it involves lots of duck tape

[tavalon]

81. Duck and Cover?

Sorry, just kidding.

I will go to the hospital I work at and will help any way I can until I die if that is what is to be.

I live in Seattle. We are very high on the list of possible targets especially if it comes from North Korea. But, we live in the shadow of a beautiful but dangerous mountain. It makes one very pragmatic.