Did you notice that the "balls" Dems/DU were lookin' for belong to women?

[omega minimo]

Cindy Sheehan, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Barbara Lee, Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Boxer....


....:patriot:
:bounce: :bounce:

[Carolab]

1. Yes. If the world were run by women it would have a chance.

Too much testosterone out there and too much left-brained thinking.

[Wetzelbill]

3. too much "other" brain thinking

:)

[omega minimo]

6. Yeah we need people

in their right minds

[Carolab]

9. See what the right side thinks?

:dilemma:

[Fridays Child]

20. The world would be more peaceful if we could tax testosterone.

Just sayin'.

[Scout]

33. Men Are Not Cost Effective

book title I saw once ... can't remember the author.

jacket flap copy said something to the effect when you look at costs of crime, prisons, social services, deadbeat dads, stuff like that it's men who cost society more overall.

Anyone ever read that book?

[electropop]

54. Boxer/Conyers for president!

Both are tough as nails. It really is true that our women are tougher than our men. Probably something to do with having to fight their way to office through a barrier of discrimination. Our male Democratic politicians have gone soft and feeble from lack of excercise (of their free will).

[Wetzelbill]

2. Paul Hackett

:)

Yeah, I did notice. It's been like that for a while, I think.

How about Cynthia McKinney? She's been at it hard for years now.

[nickgutierrez]

8. And John Conyers

But there is a point to be made here - the strong voices in the Democratic party are, in vast majority, women. Not just that, but the woman being put forth for the presidency is arguably the weakest of the bunch in terms of what we're discussing here.

[Kurovski]

55. Howard Dean was macho before it was cool

for Dems to be macho.

But watch out for our women little shrubbie, they will mess up 'yer shit.

Just like yer'own mama does, they mean to do some long-term serious business, little one.

Scared little Chickenhawk George can't even face one American mom parked on the side of the road near his house!

[yorkiemommie1]

4. Maxine Waters

the men are calculating their chances. the women know that this might BE their last chance and so they feel they have nothing to lose by being courageous.

[omega minimo]

11. Congressional Black Caucus

"We understand injustice and we know how to address it."

:kick:



+ Ray McGovern and Joseph Wilson

[paineinthearse]

5. Medena Benjamin

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=141&topic_id=10337

[omega minimo]

7. Patti Smith. Nancy Pelosi

:toast:

[newswolf56]

27. Good hit, OM...see my #21 below. Sorry if I'm not my usual...

articulate self: just came home from the saloon, where I was agitating about Cindy Sheehan to such an extent rousing toasts were being drunk to her success. Perhaps she will be our Deloris Ibarruri. (I salute you, OM, despite our {truly minor} dialectical differences: "If you want to drop a line/you must know where you can find me...")

[omega minimo]

58. Not so sure we speak different dialectics

Well howdy there, NW56.

One thing DU has shown me is the distinction b-w those who see "discussion" as a (learning) process and those who view it as a competition (fill in your own over-generalization ______).

This is (and this thread and the names of hero/ines exemplify) why the "language matters" thing is important. And why habits of thought/expression that exclude valuable voices from the mix are counter-productive. We have seen how assumptions get in the way, right?

The extensive knowledge you have of the history behind all this veers right back round to where we are and where the answers are to be found........ The knowledge will inform the manner in which we discuss the ideas.

Maybe even a dialogue (one can dream).

[newswolf56]

61. More than anything else, I like my knowledge to be useful to others...

but since I have no living child (and no longer teach), that's often difficult. A dialogue might be truly challenging -- and therefore perfect. I assume by your response you recognize the song from which I quoted: please feel free to PM me if you so choose.

[Roxy66]

10. Yes....they definately are leading the charge.

[madrchsod]

12. yes it pretty much the women who

are taking the lead.i guess they figure someone has to save our children and grandchildren

[vard28]

13. Let's not forget...

... the Raging Grannies! I was shocked that they were not only on the Today show this morning, but actually were interviewed and were able to voice their non-georgie beliefs. If you missed them, visit their website at www.raginggrannies.com and learn about this wonderful group. Be sure to check out the lyrics to their songs. This is a feisty bunch of gals and an inspiration to both young and old women to get up off their butts and DO something now!

:bounce:

[marzipanni]

14. In a divorce custody of the child(ren) is given to the mother

more often than the father, or joint custody. Why does that not translate to women at least having equal custody of the world? Control without nurture is wayoff balance.
Our poor Mother Earth and her teeming masses who struggle with old power-crazed men causing some of the poorest to keep having more babies they can't feed, who barely survive and can not thrive....And causing the slightly better-off "coalition" countries to have sons and daughters blown up or shot in senseless wars.
These go against life force, which is really what God is...





Save lives, time, money and sanity: Get rid of your own crazy leaders before our crazy leaders try to do it for you.

.

[powergirl]

42. I'm a divorce lawyer

The courts generally look at the parent who has actually been providing for the care and control of the children. Generally and demographically, the moms do this. So, the courts, in an effort to minimize disruption to the kiddos, leave the children in the primary care of the parent who usually cares for them - in most cases, the women.

During many of my cases, the fathers (and half of the time they are my clients) say they want primary custody of the children. They can't win their case if they don't know the names of the children's doctors, teachers, friends, etc. :hi:

[wli]

15. don't forget John Conyers, Paul Hackett, and the Raging Grannies

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Don't forget Cynthia McKinney!!

[Kickin_Donkey]

17. Add Helen Thomas and Christiane Amanpour ...

.

[paineinthearse]

18. Rep. Louise Slaughter

At the vanguard of the Guckert scandal and the next chair of the House Rules Committee.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Damn Straight They Do. n/t

[newswolf56]

21. Anyone who remembers "La Passionaria" should not be surprised...

at this.

iNo Pasaran!

Nor anyone who remembers Emma Goldman:

"I don't want a revolution if I can't dance."



Edit: correction of drunken omission of verb in Goldman quote.

[SoCalDem]

22. Most of the men are "go-along-to-get-alongers"

They belong to the Good Ole Boys' Club. Women are a new enough presence there that they are braver, since lots of the special favors will be denied them anyway, they have less to lose

[bobbieinok]

71. good point

[rman]

23. Sibel Edmonds, Indira Singh, Karen Kwiatkowski

[marions ghost]

51. Excellent additions

to the brass ovaries hall of fame

[rman]

24. Code Pink

[WCGreen]

25. Doesn't suprise me one bit....

It's becaue the women are tied into the corporate elite that funds this countries politcal industry.

They hae ahd to work outside the system for most of their political career and so, they are not constrained by the fear of lost donations

[theHandpuppet]

26. Sisters Ardeth Platte, Carol Gilbert, and Jackie Hudson

Who went to jail for their bravery.

[newswolf56]

28. Rosa Parks. And the roll-call of the dead:

Karen Silkwood. Allison Krause (slain at Kent State). Dian Fossey...

[theHandpuppet]

29. and Rachel Corrie

May they rest in peace.

[newswolf56]

31. And the archetypes:

Queen Maeve. Queen Boudicca. Danu Herself...

[Kickin_Donkey]

30. The Jersey Girls

[B Calm]

32. The Bush Twins...

just joking...

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. The Raging Grannies.

:hi:

[dbt]

35. Of Hector and Lysander

and the world turned upside down. May the Women save us from ourselves.

[Neshanic]

36. Jessica Simpson. She went over there and then said something

when she saw that they "lost" all the bad stuff.

Our foppish courtiers such as Biden, Liberman..you know the usual suspects should all be replaced by women, who actually have a pair, because the men ain't pulling it off.

[mopinko]

37. la madres de la plaza de mayo

[BrklynLiberal]

38. It did cross my mind that the lionesses were showing more courage than

lions...

[Ripley]

39. Kristen Breitweister

:patriot:

[powergirl]

40. OF COURSE - IF YOU WANT ANYTHING DONE, A WOMAN NEEDS TO DO IT

From child rearing to party planning, the women know how to get their sh*t together. It is the women who will bring this administration down. :pals:

[Hugin]

41. I beg your pardon...

It was "spine", I was looking for.

Yeah, they're GREAT!

:)

[omega minimo]

59. Absolutely!

:hi: see #46

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4292942&mesg_id=4294390

[Lerkfish]

43. as a man, I got no problem with that. go ladies! give em hell!

[noamnety]

44. The more oppressed you are, the less you have to lose

I'm not surprised that women, blacks, gays, other minorities are often the first to speak out, and speak the loudest.

[Walt Starr]

45. Oh yeah? I cite Paul Hackett!

:evilgrin:

He's now considering taking on DeWine for the Senate seat.

:evilgrin:

[omega minimo]

46. Viva la Gumption!

www.backbonecampaign.org :patriot:

[omega minimo]

47. Bless the beasts and the children

All the little boys and girls
Sisters and brothers in the Family Human

Women know sacrifice on behalf of others
Women are willing to be righteous for all, not "right" for themselves

More cooperative, compassionate spirit
Less macho bluster

Bully vs. Bully = More of the Same
+ Mutal Assured Destruction

Let's yank "compassion" back from the Bushco. Lie Machine.

:toast:

Thank you Cindy and Gold Star Mothers.

[dxstone]

48. And let's not forget Marla Ruzicka...

Marla Ruzicka, The Girl Who Tried to Save the World

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0605-20.htm

BTW, I posted something to this same effect several months ago, and my post got 86ed!
Might've been some of the other content in there... still, I think this is really quite obvious these days...
My question, of course, is the same one posed by Devo many long moons ago:
Are we not men?

Kicked and nominated!
d

[rndmprsn]

49. AMEN!

and i'm a guy too...the above kick so much ass!

my senator is the bee's knee's too, barbara mikulski D-MD

[Carolab]

50. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. I like her too. n/t

[cascadiance]

52. Valerie Plame, Donna Frye, Nancy Reagan, Ariana Huffington, Bev Smith

Ok, so Nancy Reagan only a "half" vote for her stand on Alzheimers and stem cell research... Still not bad for an ex-wife of Ronald Reagan's. Bev Smith of course is someone some folks would disagree with.

Colleen Rowley, Kay Griggs, Melinda Morton, the Alligator Cowgirls, Christine Gregoire, Lila Lipscomb, Patricia Foulkrod, Saira Shah, Janeane Garafalo, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Rachel Madow, Laura Flanders,

Yah! This list is getting very large of those folks we owe for sticking it out when the going got tough!

I guess they've all been brainwashed by "news trash" magazines like Vanity Faire! :)

Now Ann Coulter also has "nads" too, but more of a "physical nature" than what we are talking about here.

[MindPilot]

53. Very true and that is the right's worst nightmare; beaten by a girl

Right now the Bully-in-Chief is afrid to talk to a middle-aged woman. How must that look to the rest of the world.

[omega minimo]

79. "How must that look to the rest of the world."

...:wow:
:scared: :scared:

[Kurovski]

56. Did anyone mention Jan Schakowsky?

from Illinois.

[PassingFair]

62. Beat me to it, Kuro!

Love her. Makes me wanna move, just so I could vote for her!

[omega minimo]

57. Where do we find the courage of our convictions?

Spine, not spin, I say!

WOW Thank you all, GREAT comments and check the positivity!

Cindy Sheehan provided the perfect example to point out the power of the inspired individual, the courage and strength that comes from conviction, resolute and peaceful-- not necessarily "in your face" but definitely IN YOUR DITCH, Mr. Bush.

People Have the Power
--Patti Smith

I was dreaming in my dreaming
of an aspect bright and fair
and my sleeping it was broken
but my dream it lingered near
in the form of shining valleys
where the pure air recognized
and my senses newly opened
I awakened to the cry
that the people / have the power
to redeem / the work of fools
upon the meek / the graces shower
it's decreed / the people rule

The people have the power
The people have the power
The people have the power
The people have the power

Vengeful aspects became suspect
and bending low as if to hear
and the armies ceased advancing
because the people had their ear
and the shepherds and the soldiers
lay beneath the stars
exchanging visions
and laying arms
to waste / in the dust
in the form of / shining valleys
where the pure air / recognized
and my senses / newly opened
I awakened / to the cry

Refrain

Where there were deserts
I saw fountains
like cream the waters rise
and we strolled there together
with none to laugh or criticize
and the leopard
and the lamb
lay together truly bound
I was hoping in my hoping
to recall what I had found
I was dreaming in my dreaming
god knows / a purer view
as I surrender to my sleeping
I commit my dream to you

Refrain

The power to dream / to rule
to wrestle the world from fools
it's decreed the people rule
it's decreed the people rule
LISTEN
I believe everything we dream
can come to pass through our union
we can turn the world around
we can turn the earth's revolution
we have the power
People have the power ...

[greendog]

60. Arundhati Roy

n/t

[lonestarnot]

63. This is a very observant post!

[omega minimo]

64. Opinions are like

backbones-- everbuddies got one.

:hi:
thankyekindly

[Booster]

65. Yep, the ladies carry them in their purses.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

66. Coleen Rowley...for Congress!

http://www.coleenrowley.com/

[LandOLincoln]

67. Nope. Looks to me like the "balls" are pretty evenly distributed.

For every Barbara Boxer there's a Wes Clark.

For every Paul Hackett there's a Stephanie Tubbs Jones.

For every Cindy Sheehan there's a Howard Dean.

For every....well, you get the idea.

I'm a woman, but I don't think for a minute that women are better or worse than men. We've got way more in common than not.

Just my .02 (billion...) :evilgrin:

[omega minimo]

68. You're gettin it.........!

........so maybe "balls" is unecessarily restrictive :kick:

[LandOLincoln]

75. It's a metaphor. It doesn't bother me.

Somebody tells me I have balls, I take it as the compliment it is...even if they didn't mean it to be complimentary. :evilgrin:

[omega minimo]

77. No it's not

It's a limp, worn-out, shriveled-up obsolete cliche that's lost its bounce and outlived its usefulness.

It doesn't do justice to the energy and power exemplified by these women. It's cheap and ugly and crude. They are anything but.

[Blue_Tires]

69. Mother Jones? n/t

[Carolab]

70. Rosa Parks, and the Suffragettes.

Women who started something BIG.

Men joined in later.

[FrenchieCat]

72. The Grande Dames of Journalism.....

Helen Thomas and Elizabeth Drew!

[deacon]

73. If there was a presidential election tomorrow, Boxer would get my write-

in vote. As a matter of fact, Boxer/ wes clark, clark/boxer sounds real good to me.

[omega minimo]

74. BOXER FOR PRESIDENT

:bounce: :patriot:

[jokerman93]

76. Some say

Some say we're moving into an era in which men and women will finally reach real parity in power. If it's to happen at all, I imagine this is the way it would look at the beginning.

This boy says, "Three cheers for girl power!"

[omega minimo]

78. Egalitarianism is the outcome of honest assessment of the problems we face

...awareness of how those problems arise; and dedication to doing something about them.

Here's to strong women, cool men, parity, girl/boy/power and jokerman93!

:toast: :pals: :toast:

[johnnie]

80. Oh bullshit!

Quit with this sexist crap and these threads trying to start more shit on here.
Let me start a thread that says "Did you notice that the "balls" Dems/DU were lookin' for belong to men?" Let's see how far that one goes.
Stop it with these sexist threads people, it's getting fucking old.

[omega minimo]

82. TOO late! Women kick-started the evolution without you! but don't WORRY

:hi: when you stop missing the point on purpose, we'll be ready to embrace you :pals:

Seriously tho, Allred E. OldMan, the question was good-natured and fair. It also points up the short-sightedness of equating courage, strength, ability and vitality with BALLS.

Sexism is detrimental to the goals of DU and the Dems. After all the fun, celebration of fe/male hero/ines and camaraderie of this thread, your sour accusations are :rofl:

Check out http://www.backbonecampaign.org. Pretty cool.

[ismnotwasm]

81. Ovaries!

These women are drawing the line in the sand. And it seems, that behind them, the men that the media have effectively silenced are getting more of a voice. It's hard to stop a pissed off woman. I have a friend who counsels alcoholics. He says you know what happened? A bunch of mothers got MAD and now your ass is going to jail or treatment when you drink and drive. And it's true, MADD effectively changed the way we look at drunk driving.