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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:07 AM
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My God! Rove did this before!
Check out this post on Josh Marshall's blog:

"Blast from the past?

Sources close to the former president say Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush presidential campaign after he planted a negative story with columnist Robert Novak about dissatisfaction with campaign fundraising chief and Bush loyalist Robert Mosbacher Jr. It was smoked out, and he was summarily ousted.
"Why Are These Men Laughing?" Ron Suskind
Esquire
January 2003

Can we see those phone logs?"

Wow!
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starscape Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:09 AM
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1. amazing...
the Bush folks ought to ground him and take his phone rights away.. LOL..

He's just a dirt-slinging gossip monger (And now, he's a criminal).
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Cappurr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:09 AM
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2. Great find
I knew he'd been fired for doing something sleazy but I didn't remember any of the details. This is right on.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:12 AM
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4. Josh is a sharp guy
And Rove is a slimy piece of s***. He's guilty as sin, and those WH people are lying through their teeth.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:11 AM
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3. Holy sh**. If this is true
and gets any significant press whatsoever, he's toast. Even in this deny, deny, deny administration, I think that they have no choice but to toss him out the door.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:13 AM
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5. God, I hope so
Someone finally needs to be held accountable in this admin. for SOMETHING.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:24 AM
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8. But since Rove is in charge, he will not toss himself out the door.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 10:25 AM by Divernan
He is a traitor. And by the way, despite a lot of uninformed opinion floating around this web and elsewhere, journalists CAN be subpoenaed by grand juries if they are involved in the commission of a crime, and they can't claim any confidentiality privilege regarding details of the crime. I got that from a Columbia Journalism School graduate who got her master's degree there a few years ago. She rattled off the US Supreme Court decision on that, but I didn't make a note of the citation for it.
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:48 AM
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9. Wouldn't that be cool
to see both Novakula AND Rove doing the perp walk? In irons, I hope!
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:17 AM
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6. Funny as hell...
Dana Bashum was just reporting from the White House that Bush does not intend to open any sort of internal investigation into who might have leaked this, blah, blah, blah. She went on for about three minutes, never mentioning who might be suspected.

However, during the entire time they were showing a clip of Rove, smiling and greeting his "adoring public". Whoah, that was just too funny!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:17 AM
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7. The Wash. Post seems to have the goods.
From today's story (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14909-2003Sep28.html):

"An administration official told The Washington Post on Saturday that two White House officials leaked the information to selected journalists to discredit Wilson."

"An administration aide told The Post on Saturday that the two White House officials had cold-called at least six Washington journalists and identified Wilson's wife."

"An administration official said the leaks were simply for revenge" for the trouble Wilson had caused Bush."

"Wilson said that in the week after the Novak column appeared, several journalists told him that the White House was trying to call attention to his wife...

"Each of the reporters quoted the White House official as using some variation on, 'The real story isn't the 16 words. The real story is Wilson and his wife,' " Wilson said. "The time frame led me to deduce that the White House was continuing to try to push this story."

"Wilson identified one of the reporters as Andrea Mitchell of NBC News. Mitchell did not respond to requests for comment."

Just too many people know about this to hush it up.

As the Post quotes from George H. W. Bush, "Those who expose the names of intelligence sources are "the most insidious of traitors."


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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:53 AM
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10. HAHAHAHAHAHA
The "real" story is NEPOTISM? As accused by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION?

Warn the families named Cheney, Rhenquist, McClellan, BUSH and omg, you read about another daily!

As opposed to lying about reasons for war, of course.

Liars limbo. How-low-can-you-go.....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:53 AM
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11. Lee Atwater would be proud that his protoge' turned out to be as big of a
son of a bitch as he was.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:07 AM
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12. No, this is much worse than what Rove did before. But isn't it

great that there's evidence of a pattern of Rove leaking inside info to Novak?
That was dirty tricks, this is treason.

Rove and Novak have both been around long enough to know that outing a CIA operative is treason. Do we still hang people for treason?

I read TPM about 2 a.m. and thought how delicious it would be to see Rove and Novak both brought down by their own stupid sense of being beyond the law. I hope it happens, though I don't want them to actually be hanged for treason. Life in prison would be enough. People may have died, may die in the future, because of this insane partisan posse. Actions have consequences, as the Bushites and other conservatives like to say when speaking of people who have screwed up their lives and thus, according to the compassion of such conservatives, must suffer and pay the price. Let's see if any of them apply the same standards to Rove and Novak as they advocate for addicts, unwed mothers, and others they want to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Lee Atwater did have the grace to repent his sins when he was dying. I wonder if either Rove or Novak will.
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:14 AM
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13. Locking--Dupe
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:18 AM
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14. another Rove leaker: Paul Bedard
http://www.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Condi%20Rice

"When Karl Rove wants someone's head to roll, he doesn't hold a press conference. No, Rove is way more subtle than that - he keeps his hands clean by planting leaks with a favored journalist quoting unnamed "insiders" who would like that special someone to disappear.

Rove's technique worked perfectly on once-powerful Trent Lott, who foolishly tried to fight back but then disappeared, and has not been seen since.

Rove's fingerprints are ALL over this new "whisper" by Paul Bedard of US News:

"there's growing talk by insiders that National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice may take the blame and resign."

-snip-

Lately Rove's target is Cheney:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/031006/whispers/6whisplead.htm
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030929/whispers/29whisplead.htm


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