Another Cindy basher has an eBay listing.

[Fridays Child]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arrest-Cindy-Sheehan-magnets-Support-Our-Troops_W0QQitemZ5605508080QQcategoryZ1469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I just reported it.

[ima_sinnic]

1. ya beat me to it!

I justlogged in to DU to call attention to this idiot. Looks like the other one has been pulled. But on what grounds did you report this one?

[Fridays Child]

5. I just picked "banned item" and "problem isn't listed here..."

...when I went through the prompts. Then, I gave the auction number.

[Generic Other]

46. Can you leave him negative feedback?

It will scare other ebay buyers off about buying from the moran.

[Fridays Child]

64. No. Only the auction winner can leave feedback for him.

Anyone can write to him and complain while the auction is active. But it looks like the auction has been pulled, now.

[BlakeB]

2. These thugs will stop at nothing...

to slander anyone who disagrees with them.

[Webster Green]

3. I just used the "ask seller a question" option....

...to give the dipshit a little advice.

[Fridays Child]

4. I counted fifteen errors in the seller's...

...spelling, punctuation, syntax, and grammar. It looks like we have another graduate from the Free Republic School of Writing.

[Spike from MN]

30. The description has been revised and still has errors.

The seller must have graduated Summa Cum Laude from the school you mentioned.

[Kahuna]

8. I did the same.

nt

[petron]

41. Did just that...here's my response

It's hardly patriotic to say "...what she is doing only lowers moral for all the troops as a whole, and boarders on criminal...".

What happened to free speech or freedom of expression?

While I agree you have the right to do and say what you are doing as well as Cindy has the right to do what she is doing, I think you should really think about your underhanded behavior.

How is Cindy's behavior criminal? Since when is protest criminal?

You obviously don't understand the principals this country was founded on. Your ignorance is a sad reflection of your unwillingness to truly understand and come to terms with what "freedom" really means.

[petron]

61. Here's how the person responded....LOL

"exactly, what happend to free speach? you hypocrit!"

I'm the hypocrite? I already told the seller that I agree that they have the right to do and say what they want.

How does that make me a hypocrite?

Amazing what the blind and increasingly ignorant BushCo masses can believe.

(It's obvious this person has spelling problems, makes me think that they might have other sorts of problems too. So sad.)

[wryter2000]

68. You're not a hypocrite

You're a hypocrit. How dare you interfere with his free speach?

[tavalon]

71. Yeah, problems with critical thinking skills, too n/t

[kristndem]

49. I did the same

This is what I wrote, simple & short and sure to fall on deaf ears...

"You should be ashamed, this is a woman who lost her son in this war. How is this supporting our troops? She is a grieving mother and her son was sent to war based on lies....For shame for shame......."

[Fridays Child]

6. We got the first guy shut down. Let's keep this kicked so...

...as many people as possible can complain.

[magellan]

7. This fellow is a grade-A Repuke loser

He mostly sells naff silver "Contender"-style sauna suits, hunting/survival knives, and playing cards featuring nude women. Betcha he earns his living doing this out of the back of a trailer.

[deacon]

9. It's more twisted logic from the ignorant, bush first -america second

crowd. Sheesh, her son was killed and there were no WMD and the downing street minutes showed this war was a big lie--and dammit she has the right to voice her opinion--this is after all America isn't it?

Arresting her for no good reason is, well you fill in the blank ...

[mrsadm]

10. Hate to be negative here...

But isn't this just another form of free speech?

[magellan]

11. Sure! He's free to sell it

...and we're free to try and have it removed because we find it objectionable. Free speech comes with responsibility.

[Cooley Hurd]

12. Yes, but profiting off a grieving mother is utterly sick...

Why are you willing to defend this person? :shrug: :thumbsdown:

[comsymp]

53. "Why are you willing to defend this person?"

Defending the right to free speech should never be confused with defending the speaker, or the speech, itself. That's why the ACLU rightfully "defends" the Klan by fighting to protect the 1st.

I vote :thumbsup:

[lynne]

16. My thought, too -

- is that it is a free speech issue. The first auction didn't really have a product to auction. This one is a bit different.

This person has come up with something tangible to auction. eBay auctions other similar political items and as long as it doesn't violate the eBay terms of service I doubt it will be removed.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

27. No.

eBay, as per the site owner's rules, is for buying and selling things, not for political proselytizing. And it is them who delete items, not the complainers.

It's like you coming into my house and starting to spew RW bullshit. You won't be free to stay there.

[ohio_liberal]

62. It's a billion dollar company

You play by their rules or you don't play at all. It isn't the place to air your political views. :)

edited for clarity

[Cooley Hurd]

13. But, she's lowering the "moral" of the troops!

:crazy::dunce:

Another of the Chimp's Army of Illiterates...:puke:

[formercia]

21. another Moran lol

[patrioticliberal]

14. Bid on the item

Then as soon as you bid, go here:
http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?UserInformationRequest

Get their name and #
(it's best that you keep yours anonymous or incorrect)
Then cancel your bid

Of course, that's not my advice; a little bird told me that

[gasperc]

15. the fucker's here in MI

about a half hour away from me, what a rotten jackass

[displacedtexan]

17. The description says it all.

You are bidding on a yellow 8 inch magnet that was originally said "Support Our Troops" but had been modified with permanenet paint to state "Arrest Cindy Sheehan" For those of you who don't know Cindy Sheehan just type her name in Google. Or, just beleive me and suppor the fact that this women should be arrested. I am deeply sorry that she has lost her son, but what she is doing only lowers moral for all the troops as a whole, and boarders on criminal. This style of protest originally came about during the Vietnam War, and was just as unacceptable as it is today. Where was these protests when her son signed up for the military? The last I looked there is no draft, and this lady needs to be stopped!

This eBayer needs to be arrested by the grammar police.

[Fly by night]

65. I should send him my orange ribbon with "Support Honest Elections" on it.

[Mountainman]

18. self delete

[RetroLounge]

19. I asked him how typing on eBay supports the troops

He's Just Another Chickenhawk GOPussy...

RL

[formercia]

20. I noticed he keeps the buyer id private

little nazis afraid to show their faces?

[spartan61]

22. I just wrote a message to this seller via the Ask Seller Question

option. What else can I do to help? Is there a place where I can write a complaint to Ebay?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

23. I don't think eBay will take this listing down. This one,no matter

how disgusting, does offer the merchandise and doesn't morph like the other one did into flags.

[ohio_liberal]

36. Best bet

is to object to the offensive speech in the description.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

40. It might be offensive to us, but the language is "clean". The other

listing was taken down almost in a heartbeat, and this one is still there.

[Orangepeel]

52. I don't understand. Why can't he sell this?

He's moron, sure (as is anyone who would pay $3.00 for a "support the troops" magnet that this guy wrote on with magic marker), but I don't get the grounds on which he should be shut down.

[ohio_liberal]

55. Well, there are a couple of different reasons

eBay itself has a long history of shutting down opportunists/profiteers. They didn't allow people to take advantage of the shuttle disaster, WTC memorabilia, London bombings, certain celebrity deaths and arrests, and so on. This sort of political speechifying has in the past been shot down. They rely on the community itself to police offensive or objectionable listings. If enough people complain, chances are they'll shut it down. They don't particularly like controversy.

[Orangepeel]

63. eh. well.

thanks for replying.

I can't say I agree (I find it more idiotic than offensive, and I generally think it is a good thing when freepers make themselves look stupid) and I kind of think it is a shame that ebay shut it down (would they allow an "impeach bush" ribbon?). But, congratulations on a mission accomplished, anyway.

[MADem]

66. THEY TOOK IT DOWN!

This listing (5605508080) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly.
If the item was removed by eBay, please consider this transaction canceled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs.

Items that ended more than 90 days ago are no longer accessible through the eBay system.


Buh-bye!

[ohio_liberal]

24. Heh

I got a chuckle out his 'naked lady playing cards' listing.

[livinginphotographs]

25. I sent him an email about his terrible spelling

He sent me one back:

Response from obi256
Item: "Arrest Cindy Sheehan" magnets Support Our Troops
(5605508080)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
obi256 is the seller.
---------------------------------------
I was in a hurry and missing a spell check,,, how many magnets
would you like?




Now he's abusing commas! Disgraceful!

[ohio_liberal]

26. Yep, he was in a hurry...

...to make a buck off the back of dead soldier's mother. Disgusting.

[greenbriar]

28. he is a coward

isn't posting the questions

[livinginphotographs]

29. And buyers are anonymous (if he has any)

Takes after W, I see.

[ohio_liberal]

33. There have been no buyers

Probably won't be any either. :)

[Mutley]

31. I reported him.

Unfortunately I think some of the other posters are right when they say that ebay probably won't remove this one. This guy actually has something to sell, however disgusting it may be, and he isn't posting copyrighted material. The only thing I think they could get him on is using ebay to proselytize bidders.

[Bluerthanblue]

69. He is gone- and i'm proud of e-bay, though

there may be a bit of 'sound reasoning' on thier part.

Paypal and e-bay are related, and isn't Paypal one of the donation sites for Cindy-?

They have the right to refuse any and all offending merchandise- there is no 'law' that gives anyone the 'right' to sell on e-bay.

Just as any 'merchant' can ask a customer to leave their store-

Personally i'm glad e-bay shut this guy up- even if it did go against the principal of free speech. Fining Howard Stern for saying fuck on the air flies in the face of 'free speech' and is enforced not by an 'individual' but by the GOVERNMENT-

[Spike from MN]

32. Looks like the seller needs a little negative feedback.

Do you suppose that would teach him a lesson?

[ohio_liberal]

34. Auction interference

I suppose if you had an account you didn't care to ever use again, you could violate eBay's rules. The feedback would most likely be removed, so I don't think it's worth it.

[greenbriar]

35. he already has two in the last 6 months

how many does it take to shut his privilige down?

[ohio_liberal]

37. You can have as many as people can leave

There's no set percentage or number for sellers. Sellers are 'unregistered' for violations like non-performance, fraud, bad contact info, not paying their fees, that sort of thing.

[cry baby]

38. These stoopid f*cks sure sound askeerd!!!!!!!!

And askeerd of a little woman who lost her son in the war. F*CKING BABIES!!!!!

[KitchenWitch]

39. And I did not know that Cindy protesting could lower the troops' morals

I did not think anyones morals could be lower than *'s

[MercutioATC]

42. I sent him a mesage and he replied...

ME: "While you're certainly entitled to your opinion, I think you're way off base. Ms. Sheehan is doing exactly what the founding fathers intended her to do - exercise her right to protest when she feels her government is no longer representing the greater interests of the people.

To trivialize it as you have is childish."




HIM: "Thank you. I appreciate you comments. She has a right to voice her oppionion and critize the president and the war, I feel that someone critizing her is not out of question. I'm just a patriot."



ME: "While I still find your auction distasteful, I do have to applaud you for responding to my message.

One thing to consider..."nationalism" is blind support of one's country - "patriotism" is a love of one's country which sometimes requires one to point out the blemishes and mistakes in order to make it a better place...at least that's my definition.

This isn't an observation of you, personally. I just know of quite a few people who believe that "patriotism" is a function of simply believing what our government tells us to believe.

Again, I do appreciate your response."


No response yet...

[ohio_liberal]

43. Interesting logic

She has a right to voice her oppionion and critize the president and the war

but then the person wrote in the original description:

"boarders on criminal"
"Arrest Cindy Sheehan"

Arrest her for what, exactly, since by the freeptard's own statement she has the right to voice her opinion?

[MercutioATC]

44. That was to be my next point...

I wanted to hit him with some relatively non-confrontational philosophy on the meaning of "patriotism" first...we'll see if he replies again.

[ohio_liberal]

48. ::thumbsup::

I give you mad props for engaging in reasoned discourse.

[MercutioATC]

50. You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

I'll almost always give a person the benefit of the doubt. If this E-Bayer is open to differing views, a reasonable approach is the only way to get the message across. Screaming at him will only help him justify his (erroneous) opinion of REAL patriots (those who feel morally obligated to question authority when that authority is not acting in the interest of the people).

[cry baby]

45. that was my first thought...arrest her for WHAT?

[sakabatou]

47. The maker's own comments

"I am deeply sorry that she has lost her son, but what she is doing only lowers moral for all the troops as a whole, and boarders on criminal. This style of protest originally came about during the Vietnam War, and was just as unacceptable then as it is today. Where were these protests when her son signed up for the military? The last I looked there is no draft."

Notice she doesn't have a brain...

[TWiley]

51. I just asked the seller a question. And, I quote:

Hmmmm, why would I buy anything from a dolt?

[Vinca]

54. Any lawyers on board?

He can't use her name without her permission . . . can he?

[countingbluecars]

56. When I clicked on the ebay link,

I got a message that the item has been removed.

[Mutley]

57. You're right! It's gone!

:woohoo: I didn't think it would happen.

[Mutley]

58. Kick. It's gone everyone!

Another victory!

[ohio_liberal]

59. W00T!

Like I wrote above, eBay shies away from controversy. If enough people complain, they'll make it go away. :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. Yeah! They did pull it! Great!!!!!!! Go eBay!!!!! n/t

[RetroLounge]

67. Here was his reply to me

"I fought in the first Gulf war my friend. I'm not trying to support our troops, I just could'nt think of a better media to stop this broad."

Why does he need to stop her?

Now a dead soldier's mother is a "broad?"

Asshat.

RL

[Bluerthanblue]

70. this isn't

the 'first Gulf war' (not that that one was honestly any more legitimate)
But, it was a war waged by a 'properly' elected president.
And a war that had a begining, and an end-

If this guy can't think of a better media, guess he's like the bush that doesn't read newspapers.

so sadly ignorant and shallow.