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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:32 PM
Original message
A reponse from the Ebay seller to my message.
I went to the ebay site where a seller is trying to sell a magnet of a yellow ribbon with the words Arrest Cindy. Someone on DU suggested we should write to the seller by using the Ask Seller Question option. I did and here is the response:

"One, calling the president a moron in such a way is against the law. 2nd, protesting in this fashion in such a way demoralizes both our troops and our country. Our "Chief" called her on the phone, I don't think he has a whole like of time to meet a women who will probbly insult him. Her son joined on his own free will...NO ONE made him join, no one forced him to join. There is no draft the last I looked. End of story...now someone needs to stop this lady from treading on our country.!! Arrest her!"
Respond to this question in My Messages.


This idiot seller now is telling me that it's against the law to call the prez a moron. Guess he/she doesn't know that we still have freedom of speech in this country, but who knows for how much longer. I hope other DUers will write to this maggot.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:36 PM
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1. link please? N/T
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. where did this person get the idea that Bush called cindy on the phone?

Our "Chief" called her on the phone
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. Ebay has already pulled this item
but the seller is obi256. Maybe you can find a way to contact him/her that way. I answered his message to me and here is what I wrote. BTW, this person has his/her e-mail hidden.


Looks like you need to go back to school and study the Constitution (as well as grammar and spelling). There is an item in the Bill of Rights called Free Speech. That means I can call the prez anything I want and moron fits him perfectly. Cindy Sheehan just wants to ask him a question and he is too cowardly to meet with her. He has told so many lies he wouldn't know how to answer her. If you are so gung ho this war and the prez, why don't you volunteer to go to Iraq? Americans are finally seeing what a liar he is and his poll numbers are in free fall. BTW, you are famous on many other forums. Everyone is laughing at you and your stupid magnet. I'm still trying to figure out how putting a magnet on your car supports the troops. Care to answer that one? I say support the troops by bringing them all home.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. guess my calling him a phuckstik would get me a ticket
to club gitmo then
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. glad to hear
ebay pulled it-
i'm going to write them and say thanks-
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
2. Write to Ebay management
And suggest to them that this product is a version of hate speech and is against the law. Who the hell knows if that is correct, but at least raise the issue.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:38 PM
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3. LOL . . . ask him to cite which law that is.
What a load of horse crap.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:38 PM
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4. Provide a Link To The Item
And then if eveyone here would be good enough to 'send the seller a question' it just might get the guy's attention.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. It was already pulled by ebay.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. nominated
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:40 PM
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7. I wonder if called the prez a murderer is against the law.
*they* claim Clinton killed Vince Foster.

Oh, it's only against the law when it's against the second coming of christ... shrub. For anyone else... ehhh... who cares?






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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. Didn't some righty senator -- Oren Hatch maybe
openly threaten Clinton?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #16
25. Jesse Helms, asked if he felt Clinton was fit to be Commander in Chief:
"No, I do not. And neither do the people in the armed forces. Mr. Clinton better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/aug2001/helm-a31.shtml
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/jesse-helms/

Is it a threat or a warning? I'm not sure. It sounds worse than "moron," though, doesn't it?
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:40 PM
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9. send him this and tell him to report your IP to the authorities
only get him to click on it and believe it's you

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/aboutyou.ch

but it's really going to be him

get him to report himself for calling Bush a moron

great idea in theory (the execution is up to you) :crazy:
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
10. can't find it
But I'm amazed and aghast at all the different ribbon magnets there are now! All the way from "Pray for the Troops" to "I adopted my Weimeraner".

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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. I like the double-sized one that says...
"My ribbon is bigger than yours"

HA!
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z-man Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
27. I'd like to get that...
but I can't find that one can you post a link?

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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. My memory has failed me, but I'll try to keep looking and message you.
Someone here at DU brought up the website a few months ago (anybody)? Basically all the ribbons make fun of the Support Our Troops ribbons.

I was this close to buying it, but it cost like $21.00, and that was too much for someone to rip it off in the parking lot 2 days later. (I'm a skinflint).
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. HERE YA GO!
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z-man Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. LOL!
I hadn't seen that. Perfect. Thanks.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. I've been contemplating getting one but
I can't afford to replace it if it gets stolen (which it probably will).
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. Have you seen the one that says
"My ribbon supports more troops than your ribbon"?

That's my favorite.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Ha ha - I like that too.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. "Support Our Oops"
That's my favorite ribbon!:7
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. Remember when Rushtard used to make fun of liberals for wearing ribbons.
He used to have a bunch of them on his lapel and derided liberals for wearing ribbons for causes.
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mpendragon Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
11. if Cindy was up to it
That would be the best thing for them to do to her. Putting a gold star mother in jail for daring to ask why her son had to die for the president's lie would really put them on the spot.

She'd be a hero for exposing them for what they are.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
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12. What a MORON both he and * are....
I've said it--now come and arrest me!!! To be honest with you though, a little part of me hopes he gets what he asks for. For, I know that such an arrest would mean BIG political consequences for Shrub.

And, I'll tell you what demoralizes our troops--watching their buddies get blown apart by IED's--that would really demoralize them more than anything Cindy Sheehan can say---she's honoring the troops---And, why doesn't this creep "join on HIS OWN FREE WILL, dammit?" Maybe he can go over there and give them moral support so they don't feel so demoralized. Prick.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
14. Maybe someone can make a yellow ribbon that says
"Chickenhawk".

Which is what I think that "Support the Troops" ribbon really means.

Or as my son says "Putting a 'Support the Troops' ribbon on an SUV is like hanging Rosary Beads on a hooker".
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
17. What an idiot. Can't even write English and has no clue what
freedom of speech is.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:02 PM
Response to Original message
19. I would proceed with caution - don't use ebay for political purposes in
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 02:10 PM by higher class
response to someone who is using ebay for a political purpose.

Think lawsuits for DU or for us.

Or it couls make the news that DU members attacked an ebay seller and be blown out of proportion.

Ebay is sacred in the commercial world.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:02 PM
Response to Original message
20. what an
asshole- (and i only curse when i'm furious)

1- freedom of speech is a FUNDEMENTAL RIGHT-

2- Stating the truth (he IS a moron) is not against the law, unless you are outing someone, and then it IS against the law, but not punishable unless you are not in the bush camp.

3- Holding bush accountable for what he says is his 'duty' "comforting the families of the dead soldiers" is not a BAD thing, especially coming from a man who stresses 'responsiblity'.

4- What could be more demoralizing to our troops than them seeing that the brave Commander in Chief does not have the decency to face the mother of one of their fallen brothers in arms???? regardless of HOW many times it takes???? Each one of them could be thinking- should be thinking, there but for the grace of god goes my mom/wife/daughter/husband/son etc.

5- No, no one forced him to 'join'- but someone did throw his life away for LIES- for a PERSONAL agenda, and financial gain. This man/child died in a war of CHOICE- not in 'defense' of his nation- he was betrayed- THAT not only treads on our country- it cheapens the lives of every earnest soldier, and every truly patriotic american.

6- Her trying to make money while denegrating a grieving parent by selling her shit on e-bay is why we are 'hated' by many- myself first and formost among those who HATE the money loving greedy mentality that has become 'america' the land of the 'greed' and the home of 'the grave'.


i shouldn't read when i'm awake.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:07 PM
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23. Geez, how quickly they forget "Wag the Dog" Kosovo
along with some of the despicable things the first amendment allowed them to say about Clinton.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:09 PM
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24. "Against the Law"???
Where the f*** did he/she get that?

I'm pretty sure that he only thing that would be against the law regarding saying something about the President would be a direct statement of intent to bodily harm him. (an action which I will reserve for faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar right wing-nuts)

If anyone can verify that please answer....high school was so long ago and never included that in Soc. Studies.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:19 PM
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26. Didn't even get to the first amendment, did he/she?
In any case, I think the troops' biggest concern right now is trying not to get killed or maimed in this quagmire. I don't think they have a lot of time to lounge around and see what folks on DU are doing.
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z-man Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:23 PM
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28. Here was his response to me from earlier.
"You are holy than though. I'm exercising my free speech to stop a crime against our country and humanity. You should be wearing a towel on you head and servine ali, now go fuck yourself."

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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Cindy committing a crime against HUMANITY?! Oh, the hyperbole!!
Illiteracy truly is their touchstone!!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:26 PM
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29. Gee, our "Chief" has plenty of time to get photo ops of him cutting trees
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM
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31. His response to me basically called Teddy Roosevelt a moron!
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM by saracat
"Teddy Roosevelt for one was one of the worst presidents we ever had. He was the sole reason we were attached by Japan, since he looked the other way to our decaying military power, i.e planes, tanks etc. It took 7 years before our arsenal was built up enough to beat both the Germans and Germany.

I do fee bad for her and her son, I just feel the way she is going about this is wrong. I am going to remove the item.

thanks for your voice"
mike
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Apparently his math skills are as deficient as his writing.
We defeated the country AND its people!! But only after the post-war military build-up.

All of your bases are belong to us.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. Whoa, this inbred dude doesn't know the difference between TR and FDR!!!!
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 03:21 PM by KrazyKat
He is incredibly freaking ***stupid****!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is right up there with Belushi's Animal House gem, "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" :rofl:

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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #31
39. Doesn't this moran know
That Franklin Roosevelt was the President during WWII?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #31
42. We were 'attached' by Japan? And we were in WW2 for seven years?
Did I miss something in history class?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:36 PM
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37. Wow, hes trying to exploit the mother of a dead soldier
for personal profit.

Yeah, he really supports the troops.

What a douchebag.
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