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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:08 PM
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Sometimes being right sucks (I told you so...) *sigh*
I hate to say I told you so, but I just knew that Cindy would be derailed by a GOP sponsored counter-protest.

It looks like a bunch of GOP touch-holes are going to protest against Cindy.

How very American and patriotic that is, huh?

Anyway, the cops will come, call the protests a "civil disturbance", and send all parties packing.

I just knew it.

Goddamnit, sometimes I hate being right.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:09 PM
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1. How will this "derail" her?
I'll make you another prediction -- she'll still be there after their protest is over.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:11 PM
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2. I think it'll backfire...
Most people are going to agree with her right to a peaceful protest. Counter-protesting a mother of a fallen soldier looks thuggish and mean.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:13 PM
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6. is that a real quote, it is soooo beautiful in it simplisty. and just
think this guy didn't have access to mass communication. wow.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:16 PM
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10. Scary, ain't it? n/t
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:34 PM
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23. check the page at snopes, man knowledge is something else
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm

reading the few quotes at snopes make me want to look for a book on this guy.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:42 PM
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26. Him and his ilk were very shrewd with their public
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 04:43 PM by Hobarticus
and knew what buttons to push, and when, with the German people.

I'm not keen on throwing around the term 'Nazi' loosely, but this admin's been taking some pages out of Goering's and Goebbel's books.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:59 PM
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33. no kidding, they and their followers are starting to head that way.
if you even say something bad about this cat, they come after you with everything. example mrs. sheehan, all they have to do is have bush meet with her and it's over.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:03 PM
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34. Well, meeting Cindy would take courage and integrity...
...and we know that's in short supply with our POTUS.
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:18 PM
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13. Here's how she will be derailed
Cindy's peaceful vigel will turn into a full-blown media circus. Cindy's message will be diluted by coverage of the demonstrations themselves. Then the cops will start some shit and make everyonce clear out.

Once that happens the road will be clear for condi's coming and chimpys going.

And they never had to arrest Cindy or claim any involvement in Cindy's group disbanding.

This is the kind of sneaky shit chimpy keeps turdboy around to do.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:22 PM
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16. Bushbots ARE Thuggish and Mean -- And Proud of It
They are they ones with the "My Kid Beat Up Your Honor Student" stickers on their pickups
(because they fondly remember their own days as schoolyard bullies).

They are proud that they have turned our country into the world's biggest bully.

This could get very bad. I hope that someone can cobble together
some sort of live video feed from there, or at least a very large
number of cellphones with cameras. The only thing that will likely
deter them would be the certainty that images of any foul behaviour
would be sent everywhere on the net instantaneously.
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:44 PM
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28. Thank You
That's exactly my point. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

We know what they are capable of.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:11 PM
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3. Why All The Naysaying Over A Little Counter Protest?
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 04:12 PM by DistressedAmerican
They appear to have already derailed you with the rumors that they are coming.

Get a spine! What the hell are you so afraid of? Jeepers Freepers!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:12 PM
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4. I, for one, am GLAD there's the naysaying
It really shows me something, you know?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:14 PM
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8. It Can Be Informative...
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:49 PM
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30. because they have done it before, that's why.
They appear to have already derailed you with the rumors that they are coming.

Get a spine! What the hell are you so afraid of? Jeepers Freepers!


Believe me, I have a spine. I was locked up protesting to get out of Viet Nam. Were you even born then?

OK, I don't mean to be rude. I hope you didn't either.

But simply saying that everything will be ok is what got us in the situation we are in now.

We underestimated them.

And now, the control all three branches of gov't, and have the support and unlimited resources of industry.

They make their own voting machines. They start wars based on lies. They are never held accountable for what they do.

And you think it is beneath thenm to start some shit out there?

THis is exactly the kind of thing that got them as far as they have. Believe me, it's not beneath them.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:13 PM
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5. Dead wrong
:spank::spank:
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:13 PM
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7. doesn't take Nostradamus
to assume the right-wingers would arrange protests against the protest ... if anything though, it just brings even more attention to the situation and the cause that Cindy Sheehan and those at "Camp Casey" are espousing will find far more sympathy in the American public than will that of a bunch of hate-spewing troglodytes (outside of the Fox News-viewing population, that is) ... (she's fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here ... ha)
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:14 PM
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9. Uh-huh. Sure thing.
I wouldn't get too cocky there Nostradamus.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:17 PM
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11. Actually, the counter protest
can draw attention to Cindy. The danger is that there will be violence, and Cindy will be blamed.

Are there any lawyers at her site? Get lots of cameras and take pictures. Don't resist violence. Cindy will be blamed.

The righties may be preparing to claim that Cindy is a public nuisance because she is drawing counterprotestors. That might give them the excuse to force her to leave for constituting a nuisance. You have to check the local ordinances on this.
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:56 PM
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32. Yes siree...
The danger is that there will be violence, and Cindy will be blamed.

Do you think that the likelyhood of violence is a remote possibility? Me, I don't trust them at all. I think they will plant someone amongst the protesters to start some shit.

Isn't this the kind of stuff they do? Is grinding up the mother of a dead GI beneath him? After what he did?

I hope *we* have folks there shooting video.

Even if the demonstration remains peaceful, you can bet the cops will make Cindy move.

Like I said before, I hope I'm wrong.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:18 PM
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12. Interesting
How exactly has Cindy been derailed? If anything, they are giving her more recognition, and pouring fuel on the flames.
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:23 PM
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17. Like I said before
Cindy's message will be diluted by coverage of the protests. The event will get the coverage. For now, the message is getting the coverage.

It will be a full blown media circus.

Then, someone (a plant, no doubt) will start a bunch of shit and the cops will storm in. They will oder all parties to leave the area.

Those who refuse will be arrested.

It sure would look nice for the chimp if Cindy's actions landed her in jail, as opposed to being locked up for being a "threat to national security".

Chimpy doesn't want Cindy there, but even he has the brains to know not to lock her up.

So chimpy has a henchman make a few calls, a couple of anti-Cindy protestors show up, the shit hits the fan, Cindy's message gets lost, and everyone clears out.

This is exactly the kind of shit the turdboy specializes at.

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:28 PM
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19. LOL
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 04:29 PM by Goldmund
This whole explanation is a prediction, not a recounting of events that already happened. Though I have a number of issues with this prediction, the funniest thing about it is that you're using a prediction as "proof" of correctness of a previous prediction.

Like if I posted a thread "I hate to be right. It'll rain tomorrow, just like I said it would last Monday!". :D
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:35 PM
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25. Like I said before
I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong.

For now, I think you guys are underestimating the depths of treachery chimpCo will sink to.

But again, I hope you're right.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:18 PM
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14. Bookmarking This So I Can Come Back And Point Out How Wrong You Were
when the freeps have crawled back to their holes and Cindy still holds Crawford.

I'll not hate telling you I told you so...
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:24 PM
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18. God, I hope you are right
I pray to god that you are right. I never wanted to be wrong more than I do right now. There is nothing I would rather do than say "you guys were right"

Please believe me.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:35 PM
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24. Take a chill pill
Who can never get more then 20 to 30 freepers even in DC for a protest. I doubt that there will be more freepers then port-o-potties.
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:21 PM
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15. I just hope she will look them in the eye
and say "My son died for this president and his war. What have you done?"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:29 PM
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20. Write this down: Cindy WILL NOT BE DERAILED.
A strong message of peace beats a hostile message by assholes every time.



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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:42 PM
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27. Riddle me this
"A strong message of peace beats a hostile message by assholes every time."

If that is true then why are all 3 branches of our gov't under neocon control?

Because we underestimated the depths they so eagerly sink to, that's why.

Let me ask you a question. If chimpy was willing to lie to start his war, why would you think that derailing the mother of a boy who died defending his country would be beneath him?

This administration specializes at this type of sleight of hand.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:55 PM
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31. Different time now than it was then.
Only about 1/3 of the people in this country thinks the war in Iraq is right.

People used to think that Bush wouldn't lie, now they know he will.

If a bunch of assholes go harass Cindy, it *will* backfire.


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:30 PM
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21. Isn't it amazing how Bush loving GOP conservatives counter
liberal protests since President Dumbass took office (and I do mean took), but when President Clinton was in office the freepers protested all the time against Clinton but you didn't have any counter protests.

Yet another reason why I HATE republicans.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:30 PM
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22. Maybe they will bring their "MORANS" signs. nt
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:48 PM
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29. Just out of curiosity, could you link to this previous "prediction?"
And since this counterprotest hasn't even occurred yet, how can you already claim that it has "derailed" Cindy?

It's likely that it's way too early to start beating yourself up for "being right" about anything.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:56 AM
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35. self-delete
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 12:59 AM by Ms. Clio





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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:58 AM
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36. Here, read this--looks like Cindy won't be "derailed" after all
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:08 AM
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37. It looks like I was wrong.
Thank God.
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