you ever get the feeling, that as was the case with reagan...

[bridgit]

& the 1st bush admin, that 'we' are by proxy, or by our somehow-apathy; de facto actually training the next group of individuals who will endeavor to kill us forthrightly & for little more than the padding of their defense & stock portfolios...because i do all the fucking time :thumbsdown: i do not sanction their 'from chaos comes order' means of body politic.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/10/opinion/main769946.shtml

'they' have made a tremendous blunder, they know it & the civilian cadre now understands that with a vengeance; a blunder that has only benefited the bfee & rove & his political clients. people are dying, it is a sadness, the neocon romance with hitler's blitzkrieg has loooong since come & gone = war; from whatever quarter, cannot be done 'on the cheap' & for ideals far less than noble that is to waste our calling 'we the people'. blood & treasure are not abstract concepts...

please rally & begin to vote them the hell out of office election 2006!!

[NorCalDem]

1. Great Rant!

I cannot understand how there are still people in this country that haven't figured this out yet! I can't imagine that many of the Pro-Bush people in this country are better off now than they were in the late 90's, plus we have more trouble ahead in the road.

'06 is F*^%^&* HUGE people, get everyone you know to vote!

[bridgit]

2. thanks, Bush in Berkeley & agreed...

that is the key & we've known it all along we must turn this shit out & around 2006!!

:hi: :kick: :patriot:

[wli]

3. well, most presidents are puppets

Reagan sure as hell was. Bushler probably is, too. Poppy Bush and Bubba Clinton are probably one of the only ones in recent memory who weren't, though Bubba was effectively rendered impotent (pun intended) by the neofascist Congress.

[bridgit]

6. clinton was to my mind 3-D enough a thinker...

to understand that were he; in fact he did in certain instance, but to 'act', that they would bitch, piss, belly-ache & moan as is their way republicans to low fucking heaven (the only things they do really well) as to whatever plan he put forth...that was 'the plan' all along = tie the hands of the democratic president at the peril of these: the united states of america; traitors all each & every one with a hand in the demise of this our democracy is what i think.

here's hoping i'm not alone ~

[In_The_Wind]

8. You're not alone in the way you're thinking bridgit ~ because I agree

with everything you're saying!


:kick:


It's time for a change!

[bridgit]

9. there'ya go, Joani...

:loveya: there's two votes right there :thumbsup:

[In_The_Wind]

10. As a 'highly skilled propagandist' ~ perhaps I can sway a few more VOTES !

[bridgit]

11. i'll do your 'press pack' & advance work...

:patriot:

[In_The_Wind]

12. ~

... just be sure to ... wind me up, point me in the correct direction (with all the facts) and get outta my way

[bridgit]

13. sure, i'll administer 1st aid & field dressings as well...

to they whom never seen you coming, hon :hug:

[In_The_Wind]

14. sometimes ya gotta YELL a little, get some attention ~

[bridgit]

16. too true Joani, checking in with your pm's here:

@ your suggest: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4311259 asnwering as well

[evilqueen]

4. I get a different feel from reading that article.

It seems to me that Wm. Kristol (one of the participants in PNAC) is basically telling us that he's advising Bush to do one of the following things:

- Give Rumsfeld an arse-chewing (possibly tomorrow in Crawford) and get him back on track to their neocon agenda;
- Fire Rumsfeld and replace him with someone else;
- Overrule Rumsfeld and enforce his will upon the Dept. of Defense.

[Doo_Revolution]

5. William Kristol is not advising Bush.

Bush is an empty vessel now devoid of anything. Kristol is advising his opponents in PNAC, like Michael Ledeen, who think a crazed neocon like Rumsfeld is just right for the job.

He should be fired and then further jailed, but Ledeen is over the cliff more than a thousand times versus Rumsfeld. He rewards those who spread destabilization of government.

[bridgit]

7. my sense is that with this group you fathom where they are...

by where they are not per se. they've learned that 'in spades' from watching nixon fall from a distance. kristol is an ignoble shill for the group he speaks for in absentia imo but that's just me :hi:

[electron_blue]

15. YES. I recommend you go an listen again to REM's 'Ignoreland'

I heard that song again today and I had flashbacks to the Reagan/Bush crap years.

[bridgit]

17. i think you're on it, the faces of bygone reagan/bush folk...

snapped across the pages of what should have been bygone eras shaking hands w/saddam & passing out anthrax cookies & wmd's throughout the middle east & now this 'w guy'...we fail; when we fail to see, or even recognize, the on-going nature of 'the beast' imo

it's probably too late but: welcome to du, electron_blue :hi: :kick: :patriot: here's hoping you stick around for a time or two :thumbsup: