My note to Arianna Huffington regarding General Kevin Byrnes

[understandinglife]

Dear Ms Huffington,

Yes, the hypocrisy is all too obvious. That's the problem.

I doubt that the reason General Kevin Byrnes has been relieved of command has anything to do with sex.

I urge you and your network of influential insiders to attempt to get General Kevin Byrnes to answer a few questions about his opposition to the neoconsters actions in Iraq and Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East.

I sense we are at the moment when certain senior Republican and Democratic Members of Congress need to pay Bush and Cheney a visit and demand their resignation. They must not be allowed to continue their truly 'mad' behavior in Iraq and Iran.

Peace,
UL

Posted by: understandinglife at August 10, 2005 08:58 PM

In response to:

Here’s all the proof you need that the lunatics have taken over the Pentagon and DoD asylums (that is, if the lunacy of their Iraq policies hadn’t already convinced you):

Four-star General Kevin Byrnes, the third most senior of the Army’s 11 four-star generals, was sacked over allegations that he had an extramarital affair. Meanwhile, Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez, the senior commander in Iraq during the Abu Ghraib torture and abuse scandal, is being considered for promotion to, yep, four-star general.

Talk about your utterly perverted priorities.

Now, it long ago became clear that the Bushies inhabit a bizarro, topsy-turvy universe -- a place where being utterly wrong about slam-dunk WMD earns you a Medal of Freedom, dismissing a “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S.” memo earns you a promotion to Secretary of State, signing off on torture makes you AG material, another 123 American soldiers being blown up is the mark of an enemy in its “last throes”, and outing an undercover CIA agent (and then lying about it) merits a vote of confidence instead of a pink slip.

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From At Rummy's Bizarro Pentagon, Torture is Rewarded While Sex is a Firing Offense by Arianna Huffington on August 10, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/arianna-huffington/at-rummys-bizarro-pentag_5427.html

Yeap, the neoconsters are creating a bizarro world of torture, death and destruction and all that distinguishes them from centuries of barbarians are their jet-set renditions and their radioactive debris.


Peace.

[merh]

1. The neo-cons won't be stopped, not if they can help it.

We need to join you in the letter/email campaign, begging that the responsible members of the media not let this "firing" go unquestioned.

I pray that those in our government that truly love this country will act and act fast. They are dragging our nation into danger and into depths from which we can never recover. :scared:

[understandinglife]

2. Thank you and yes -- we need a bunch of questions, fast about more ...

... than the good General's sex life.

Peace.

[hiley]

15. this statement here is what makes the most sense...

I sense we are at the moment when certain senior Republican and Democratic Members of Congress need to pay Bush and Cheney a visit and demand their resignation. They must not be allowed to continue their truly 'mad' behavior in Iraq and Iran.

UL you say it so well and we have to make someone hear us...
Hiley

[Booster]

3. Unfuckingbelievable. I just find this story to be the most arrogant

bunch of bullshit I have ever heard of. Will anyone take this case on, like the ACLU? I'm not a lawyer, but I think I could even win this case, and, if not, there would be a whole lot more generals going down with my client. I'm about at the end of my rope here with patience for our King George and Prince Cheney. Let the revolution begin.

[understandinglife]

5. I agree. And, with the connections Arianna has, I am hoping that ...

.... the good General not only has all kinds of blogosphere investigative reporters but even the few remaining typewriter jocks asking him the real questions, soon.

And, I hope the ACLU or maybe some of the many JAGs who've resigned their commissions are ready to provide him some pro bono major ass-kicking legal support.

But, for the sake of our Nation and humanity, if this action against him has anything to do with the recent, incessant, breathless acceleration in the bad-bad-bad-Iran propaganda, then I hope he has the courage to step up to the cameras and just say so.

Peace.

[flyarm]

9. i see nothing that would keep the good general quiet ..

unless he knows of others who will accomplish the coup and he doesn't want to thwart that!

this was written last year..i find it very prophetic...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1215562,00.html

America's military coup:
Donald Rumsfeld has a new war on his hands - the US officer corps has turned on the government 5-14

[fooj]

4. We've got to focus on Crawford. That is were we can make a change.

Holy hell. We're close to "crisis" mode if not in it. May we find strength and courage...


Peace.:patriot:

[understandinglife]

7. I'm suggesting that perhaps the General demonstrate at least as much ...

.... courage as Cindy Sheehan and speak the truth.

It it's only sex, so be it. Bad boy; spank, spank.

If it's our national security then I hope the General flies to Crawford and joins Cindy in the ditch.

No matter what, I want some investigative journalists asking him about his stance on Iraq and Iran, pronto.


Peace.

[fooj]

8. I think the General refused to "aid and abet"...

I think we may have a shot here, UL. Just my 2 cents.

Peace.

[understandinglife]

13. Agreed!

Peace.

[flyarm]

11. i am with you on that one!! tommorrow is not soon enough!

my stink o meter was doing flips when i heard this story and the infidelity yesterday...and my stink o meter was going ewwwww weeeeeeee!! what a pile of doo doo!!

[understandinglife]

16. Yeap. I was holding my nose before I finished the headline ...

... and, as I mentioned in my note to Arianna, the obvious hypocrisy is what brings a giant fan behind the pile of poop.

The good General could have had sex with Bush's pet dog and the neoconsters would have cared less, as long as he remained faithful to the neoconsters' imperialistic pursuits -- next stop, turning parts of Iran into sheets of glass.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

6. "Something doesn’t add up. Would the Army really can a four-star

General with 36 years of service, three months shy of his retirement, because he screwed someone other than his wife... in the middle of a war? We are at war, right? No wonder speculation is mounting that there has to be more -- much more -- to this story than is being told." -- Arianna Huffington, ibid.

Again, the answer to those questions has nothing, imho, to do with sex.

If it's only sex, so be it.

If it's at the core of our national security, then I hope the General has at least as much courage as Cindy Sheehan.

Perhaps, he could join her in the ditch and explain how disasterous Bush and the neoconsters are to our Nation and humanity. He should know.

Peace.

[hiley]

10. It is not really about sex..

no way, it is Cheney and Iran.
bush and neo-cons have to be stopped and very soon.

[understandinglife]

12. I agree.

Peace.

[hiley]

17. bush has an even crazier look about him today.

Everything I have read is adding up to only horrific things.

[ConsAreLiars]

23. Good effing gawd - what a gruesome and terrifying image.

Such utter depravity. And these vile monsters have siezed state power in the US. You need to have an "Extremely Loathsome and Disgusting" warning in the header.

[hiley]

24. sorry I know it is horrific

he looks so insane...

[flyarm]

14. wait this guy was filed for divorce last year!!

that pretty much mean seperated..and adultry doesn't even fly in any divorce court any more!

[understandinglife]

18. "The divorce became final this week, ...." NOW WE KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT

General Byrnes has told associates that the relationship began after his separation from his wife, Carol Byrnes, in May 2004. General Byrnes, 55, filed for divorce in March, according to documents filed with the Texas district court in Henderson County.

The divorce became final this week, according to the statement issued by his lawyer.

Relieving a four-star general of command is unusual, and several Army officers said they considered the punishment surprisingly harsh for a general who was nearing retirement anyway.

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From Adultery Inquiry Costs General His Command By DAVID S. CLOUD on August 11, 2005

Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/politics/11general.html?pagewanted=print

Relationship began after separation from his wife. He's relieved from command two days prior to his divorce being final.

Oh sure.

MEGA BULLSHIT ALERT EVERYONE.

General Byrnes, start telling us how to save our Nation, fast.


Peace.

[hiley]

21. ...

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.
According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm

Four Star Army General Fired For Alleged Sexual Misconduct; Some Say He May Have Been Ousted For Attempting To Thwart The Bush Administration Plans To Strike Iran
General Kevin P. Byrnes was relieved of his duties Tuesday, only the third four star officer to be fired in more than 15 years. Observers speculated there are much deeper reasons behind the firing of the high-ranking officer said to be against the administration's escalating war policies.
August 10, 2005

By Greg Szymanski

Sabers are rattling deep within the highest-levels of the U.S. military as for the first time in more than a decade a four star officer was relieved of his duties, Army officials announced Tuesday.

Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes was relieved for personal conduct reasons as the Pentagon Inspector General’s Office has been investigating possible sexual misconduct by Byres for several months.

“The investigation is complete but it is yet to be determined if the general will be only demoted or charged criminally,” said a Pentagon spokesman about relieving Byrnes of his duties as commander of the prestigious Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC).To understand the magnitude of the firing and its unusual nature, Byrnes, 55, was only months away from full retirement and though high-ranking officers are commonly relieved of their duties rarely – if ever – is such a drastic measure taken against a four star general.

Although the military and Pentagon officials, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, are remaining silent about the details, speculation among some military observers is that the firing of Gen. Byrnes goes much deeper than only personal sexual misconduct.

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http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/31291.htm

[hiley]

22. ...

What has not been reported is that recently, one of Byrnes' subordinate commands, Fort Rucker in Alabama, had been told to stand by for an influx of 50,000 military trainees -- a level the base has not seen since the Vietnam War. Byrnes' relief of command came on the heels of the Pentagon announcing that it might permit Spanish-language entrance examinations. Byrnes, who was in charge of Army training, would not only face recruits with lower education levels, criminal records, but a lack of proficiency in English. Pentagon insiders report that it was Byrnes' policy disagreements with the Pentagon neo-cons over the new recruitment policies and the potential for calling up Army retirees and reinstating military conscription without adequate TRADOC funding that resulted in his firing. The personal misconduct charges were concocted by the Pentagon to cover up the fact that there are serious disagreements with Bush and Rumsfeld among the flag officer ranks in the military.
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Byrnes was also associated with a group of officers who spent time at the U.S. Army War College at Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania. The Army War College has been a center of opposition to the war in Iraq and it is believed that Byrnes was recognized by the neo-cons as one of the unofficial leaders of a group of Army flag rank opponents of Bush's war in Iraq and potential military action against Iran.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

[Miss Chybil]

19. His divorce was final the day they relieved him of his command. nt

[abbeyco]

20. Sorry to be rude, but

if this is all about his divorce becoming final, can someone please, please provide me with the names and dates of the gay marriage that made his divorce happen? :sarcasm: Maybe that would shed some light on this.....

I'm just sayin'....

[fooj]

25. abbeyco- I think they have something about that over in the...

"Who gives a crap" thread.

[abbeyco]

26. I hope you're not dissin' me

I meant this as true sarcasm, simply because the reason for firing this guy seem hokey.

If you're offended by my remarks, I'm sorry. I just find it ironic that they'd cut him loose, on the day his divorce was final, for such a hinky reason.

[fooj]

27. Welcome to DU!

Peace.:patriot:

[nonny]

28. General Byrnes, a native of New York, New York

This is from Google's cache --- no longer on Tradoc site
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Ge0Hj2h2EfYJ:www-tradoc.army.mil/Bio.htm+General+Kevin+Byrnes+&hl=en


GENERAL KEVIN P. BYRNES
COMMANDING GENERAL
UNITED STATES ARMY TRAINING AND DOCTRINE COMMAND

General Byrnes assumed the duties of Commander, United States Army Training and Doctrine Command, on November 7, 2002, after serving as the Director, Army Staff.

General Byrnes, a native of New York, New York, was commissioned through the Officer Candidate School program in 1969. He was awarded a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from Park College in 1975, and a Master of Arts in Management from Webster University in 1985.

As TRADOC Commander, General Byrnes is responsible for recruiting, training and educating the Army's Soldiers; developing its leaders; supporting training in units; developing doctrine; establishing standards; and building the future Army. TRADOC is comprised of more than 50,000 Soldiers and Department of the Army civilians operating in 33 Army schools across 16 installations.

Prior to assuming his current duties, he served as Director, Army Staff, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Programs and as the Assistant Vice Chief of Staff. General Byrnes’ other key assignments include: Commanding General, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas; while deployed in that capacity, he simultaneously served as the Commanding General of the Multinational Division (North) in Tuzla, Bosnia, from October 1998 to August 1999; Director, Force Programs, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Plans, Washington, D.C.; Assistant Division Commander (Maneuver), 1st Cavalry Division; Commanding General, Joint Task Force Six, Fort Bliss, Texas; Commander, 1st Cavalry Division Artillery, and later Chief of Staff, 1st Cavalry Division; Director of Political and Economic Studies and Director of the Strategic Outreach Initiative for the United States Army War College, Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania; Commander, 4th Battalion, 3rd Field Artillery in 2nd Armored Division (Forward) in Germany; and Commander, Battery C, 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. His overseas tours include Vietnam, Germany and Bosnia.

General Byrnes is a graduate of the Command and Staff College and the Army War College. Among his awards and decorations include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal; Distinguished Service Medal; Defense Superior Service Medal; Legion of Merit; and Bronze Star Medal.

TRADOC homepage
http://www-tradoc.army.mil/index.html

GENERAL KEVIN P. BYRNES' SPEECHES
http://www.tradoc.army.mil/speeches.htm

Snip from -- Valley Forge Military College, Wayne, Pa., May 16, 2005

The Army is all about people; we care for our people. While they are in our care, leading younger Soldiers, we will ensure they grow as leaders. We will take care of them as individuals, and as they accrue families along the way, we will take care of their families as well. The Army is a family; we take care of our own in many ways. We’ll provide them with the best training, the best leaders and the best equipment to ensure they can execute their duties without ever having to look over their shoulder or want for more. They’re joining a team that values its people. We always have, and we’ll continue to do that.

Our nation is engaged in a war right now, and it’s a small-unit war lead by lieutenants and sergeants. Their experience and their leadership are sorely needed. We’ve been challenged as a nation before. It certainly comes as no surprise to you in this great place, Valley Forge. We’ve had tremendous challenges in the past.

Think back about the history of our nation. Five times in our history the very future of the nation was put on the line. Five times: the Revolutionary War, the War Of 1812, the Civil War, as we stood against Nazism and Fascism in World II, and then against the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Five times the fate of this nation was on the line. Now, since 9/11, I think we’re facing a sixth challenge to the fate of the nation. It is a global conflict of ideas, and it is certainly the fight of this generation.

Each time in our past democracy triumphed. We’re going to do it again this time because we have no other options than to go against this tremendous threat. We’re accomplishing a lot as we take on this threat to the nation. In Afghanistan and Iraq, our armed forces are assisting in bringing about liberty and changing the way of life for the people afflicted in those areas. In Afghanistan they held their first elections. Women voted. Think about where they were a few years ago under the murdering, brutalizing Taliban. Now they have a freely-elected government. They have their own Army that we’ve helped train, and they have freedom on the horizon.

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http://www.tradoc.army.mil/VFMCcommissioning.htm

[nonny]

30. Anti-Terrorism Drill Planned For Fort Monroe -- August 17

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3695802

(AP) - Officials plan to hold a drill next week to test Fort Monroe's readiness for terrorism.

Fort Monroe's anti-terrorism officer Bill Moisant says the emergency-response exercises will be held August 17th.

He says people entering the Army base can expect thorough security checks at gates, restrictions near emergency-response drill sites and temporary closure of some customer-service activities.

Moisant says the exercise could involve Hampton police and fire officials as well as other agencies.

_______________________________________________

General Kevin Byrnes' command is based in Fort Monroe, Va.

[nonny]

29. US Joint Forces Command Joint Warfighting Center -- April 2001

I can't figure out how to display this image here.

Page 10 of this document
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/comm_per/acp9_1.pdf

A Common Perspective
US Joint Forces Command Joint Warfighting Center
Doctrine Division's Newsletter

April 2001

Looks like the Twin Towers to me..........

Sometimes my looking around -- going 1 link to another --- takes me to interesting info.