Is this for real? Cindy's family issued a statement against Cindy

[Goldmund]

Hello again Melanie,

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks – Cherie

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue:
Sheehan Family Statement:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.

http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/002082.html

[lildreamer316]

1. That has to be BS.

and even if it isn't; it smells highly of RW desparate ploy to discredit.

[Midlodemocrat]

2. I don't believe it. But even if it is true,

Cindy isn't beholden to think or act they way they do.

If it is true, how dare they usurp the grief of his mom?

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Her daughter must back her up, seeing as how she wrote a

beautiful, painful poem about it all.

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Plus, these aren't members of the nuclear family.

I call bushit.

[MissB]

3. Hard to determine whether it is real

if they don't leave any names. :eyes:

[Cha]

79. LOL!

I was eating a peach when I read your post and almost..well, you know:D

[flakey_foont]

4. Do the grandparents, etc have names?

why don't they sign their names?

[tk2kewl]

11. good point

smells as bad as a Pig Farm

[ComerPerro]

exactly. and, besides. Given the right wings tendency to forge and lie

I would bet anything that this is fake.

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Yah! Cindy's family is as politically fractured as mine!

This is the new face of the American family. Deal with it.

[tk2kewl]

24. do you have proof?

if not don't perpetuate nonsense

[The Backlash Cometh]

124. I think the point is that you're all allowing the right-wingers to frame

the dialogue, as always.

Go ahead and confirm the information, but there's no reason to get the vapors if it's true.

[tk2kewl]

6. pretty hard to believe

[nookiemonster]

8. "Numerous cousins"?

Give me a fucking break.

Expect more of this. It's inevitable.

[skypilot]

26. That is my absolute favorite part...

...of this piece of BS!!!:rofl:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

57. Casey probably has a crack-pot uncle...

I know I do. He probably sent this to the radio station "on behalf of" the rest of the family.

[FreedomAngel82]

105. Of course

Quite strange how they didn't give any name's or an introduction isn't it? And if this was true they would've been on Bill O'Reilly's show by now. :eyes: Or Sean Hannity.

[hobbit709]

9. Swift Boating a grieving mother

Every time you think they can't go any lower, you find out they're digging even deeper into the slime they live in.

[etherealtruth]

40. If "they" were (morally) capable ...

of attacking Max Cleland's patriotism ... they are capable of attempting to smear a grieving mother's love ... and probably capable of poisoning apple pie.

[Cha]

81. Digging Deeper into their

own Slime! LOL!

[aquart]

103. Swiftboating a GOLD STAR mother.

Never leave that out.

[Spazito]

10. So, if I say I am Queen Elizabeth II on an internet site, I am to be

believed? Wow, if so, then can I claim all the property, including castles, too?

[Midlodemocrat]

19. Hey! I thought I was Queen Elizabeth II?????

[Spazito]

42. LOL, flip ya for it! After all, we just have to agree which of us is..

the REAL Queen E and it will be believed by the whole world, right! Just think, one of us gets to hand down decrees, etc!

[Midlodemocrat]

48. You can do the decrees, I just want to knight people.

or smite people, can't decide.

[Cha]

83. Why not do both? After all you

are the Queen!

[ohio_liberal]

65. Respect my authority

Peasants ;)

[tk2kewl]

20. No you'd have to sign it Queen of a well known monarchy and assorted

princes and princesses

[Spazito]

37. ROFL! Damn, I forgot to add that!

*

[seabeyond]

12. who the fuck cares. it is her son. who gives a shit

about cousins. k, fine. they dont agree with the mom, but the arrogance, to tell the mom of this boy to shut up, bullshit. this pisses me off as a mom. wow

anyone else offended

now if the dad where to stand up i owuld listen, or maybe, maybe a sister,......but everyone else

what ever

[undergroundpanther]

28. Every family

with shining activists for human rights has a freeper asshole lurking in the family tree.. SO? 1 in 24 people are sociopaths too. And I bet most of them are FREEPS!

[Sperk]

13. First of all.....There is NO AGENDA beyond your DEAD SON!

Second of all, this is probably bullshit.
Third of all, f*ck them, if it isn't.

[Howardx]

60. the use of "agenda" is interesting

most of the RW posts about her i have seen have used that phrase too, failing the smell test imo

[Connie_Corleone]

15. Wouldn't they sign with their names?

B.S.

[NoSheep]

16. I'll be Cindy's family if she needs a new one when this is over.

Disgusting. :puke:

[carnie_sf]

17. Well Vacaville

is as close to freeperville as you can get up here in NorCal ...

[KansDem]

18. It sure looks fishy...

I mean, "Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins?" What kind of tripe is that? If they wish to issue a letter, than have them use their real names. This looks bogus to me.

And there's that word "ping" again. I saw this word recently on Free Republic which leads me to believe this site is a Free Republic wannabee.

[Goldmund]

23. That's where I found this.

They're eating that shit up like candy.

[City Lights]

21. Smells like a fake to me.

If it's real, why aren't Casey's "numerous cousins" signing up to take his place?

[tsuki]

22. Even if it is, Cindy is the one who gave birth to Casey, and lost his

love and support in her old age. The rest is BS.

[steve2470]

25. If this is real (which I doubt), they can all f**** off

Cindy should do what she feels is right, and it IS the right, moral thing to do.

[henslee]

27. If this is true, what kind of spooky relative would dare tell a mom how

to grieve for her dead son?

[SoCalDem]

29. The email is from Cherie Quarterolo,

who is speaking for the family and is Casey Sheehan's godmother

[Al-CIAda]

30. Cindy's mailman and "Ebstien's Mother" must have signed it too. nt

[Dora]

31. Might be real, might not be.

But even if it is, it's not unusual for a family to be split by political differences.

I find it interesting that there are no complete names in the email, just the "rest of the Sheehan Family."

I'm sure Cindy will eventually verify or dismiss the email.

[distantearlywarning]

32. Uh-huh. Sure.

And all of these so-called "grandparents, aunts, uncles, and numerous cousins" didn't feel the need to sign their names?

Right.

This is pretty pathetic. They must be getting desperate.

[lancdem]

45. Sounds like Cherie is trying to make it seem

the vast majority of the family opposes Cindy. The lack of names leaves me highly dubious.

[dbonds]

33. Doesn't sound like the writing of a family.

They would have a differnt perspective even if they disagreed. This sounds like it was written by someone outside. My guess, completely fabricated BS.

[KyndCulture]

Horseshit!!!!!!! And I got a western union from the tooth fairy too.

Jebus these freaks are really reaching into the freep bag o' shit aren't they?

[steve2470]

39. Can you ask the Tooth Fairy to send me my overdue tooth money ?

LOL :-)

[Individualist]

34. No names, no credibility

[countingbluecars]

35. If this letter is really from her family

why didn't they sign their names. This letter speaks for how many grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc.? Something is not right.

[Tsiyu]

self-delete

[hedda_foil]

36. Is Cindy divorced?

If so, I'll give you odds this is her ex-husband's family.

[KyndCulture]

43. I have wondered about Casey's dad lately. where is he?

[txindy]

61. I imagine he's at home, working

:shrug: They've got three other kids (yes, over 18), but I'm sure there are expenses to pay that probably include a mortgage and college tuition(s). I think it's amazing that Cindy can do what she's been doing, full-time. That takes financial sacrifice along with the incredible personal sacrifice. Amazing.

[ET Awful]

56. If she is, I want to marry her :) :) :) n/t

[katinmn]

70. I believe she is legally separated.

Not germaine IMO.

Who cares what some miffed in-laws or cousins think?

We are Cindy's family.

[Cha]

116. I read something today

but can't locate it now..that Cindy and her husband are separated due to the stress of Casey's death.

[lavenderdiva]

38. I watched the truthout interview of Cindy Sheehan by Will Pitt

over at truthout.org, and in the interview she talks about the trip to Camp Casey being a spur of the moment decision. Initially, she, her sister, and their mother were the only ones that she thought would be going to Crawford. This was Cindy herself saying this. So her mother (Casey's grandmother) and sister (Casey's aunt) were supportive of her protest and came with her to Crawford.

link to Will Pitt's video: scroll down until you see the video link with picture of Cindy...

http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml

[Goldmund]

46. Doesn't surprise me

The only reason they wouldn't put any names there is to hide the fact that it's only one or two distant family members who are doing this, probably paid by RimJob the Freeper King.

Even if there are political differences, I cannot imagine a situation in which any loving family would undermine the way a mother chooses to grieve for her son.

[GreenPartyVoter]

49. And the truth(out) will set you free! Thanks for this

[txindy]

64. I think her sister and mother, then, should be the ones to respond

This 'family' letter should be rebutted by real family. Cindy has enough to handle, so her mother and sister can easily handle it, I'm sure. I know I'd certainly want to!

[Name removed]

41. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Goldmund]

50. Ah, somehow I'm involved too?

Interesting indeed.

[ET Awful]

44. Sorry, but I don't accept the word of anyone who doesn't know their

own name.

Casey's sister appears to agree with their mom (at least according to the widely distributed poem she wrote). I'll take immediate family over imagined non-immediate family any day of the week.

[Southsideirish]

47. Many families have right wing lunatics - mine does and they are mean

as all hell, too. The fact that its unsigned is huge. Cowardly losers.

[LisaM]

51. and so do his sisters and his cousins and his aunts...

His sisters and his cousins
Whom he reckons by the dozens
His sisters and his cousins and his aunts!


LOL.

[riverwalker]

52. Karl Rove is a Cindy's cousin ?

cuz you JUST KNOW who is behind this.

[johnnie]

53. According to freepersville

The person who is the official "spokesperson" for the rest of the Sheehan family is Cherie Quarterolo. I Googled it and found nothing. All anyone has to do is ask someone at the camp if that is a relative.

[Goldmund]

58. According to post #29, she's Casey's godmother

[johnnie]

63. Yeah but

According to a few searches, no such name as Cherie Quarterolo or even Quarterolo exists. I did searches on a few different name searches and nothing comes up.

[Goldmund]

66. Shit, you're right

There's not a single Google hit for that name! Even without quotes!!!

It's probably one of the 5 names left in the universe that doesn't yield ANY google hits.

[johnnie]

68. Even if you put that name into Zabasearch

Just the last name and look in all states, not one name comes up.

[sui generis]

54. gosh, whoever faked that

was at least smart enough to know not to credit actual names.

Anyway, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins didn't raise him. They can all get stuffed if that's their opinion.

Anyone who supports this war, especially since the administration's lies and underhanded tricks to get us into this war have repeatedly been made public, is personally responsible for the deaths of our soldiers.

Yes they are honorable and did their duty in going to Iraq, and more in dying for their duty, but we failed them by ever sending them to begin with.

[marions ghost]

55. What total crap

Her WHOLE family is against her and it comes out NOW? Her parents are against Cindy and her sister so much for "publicity seeking" that they have to issue a publicity release of their own !?!

This could impress the Kool Aid drinkers but it sounds so false I can't imagine anyone being able to use it for too long. I think this will make people more curious about the whole thing.

[OhioChick]

59. I don't buy this................n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

62. her sisters and her cousins, who she reckons by the dozens...

her sisters and her cousins and her AUNTS!

apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan

I sang in that one

[Malikshah]

72. No Apologies needed...this whole mess is great for G&S

I've been waiting for someone...anyone...to do a good parody...

This very night
With bated breath
And muffled oar
Without a light
As still as death
We'll steal ashore...

...As someday it may happen that a victim must be found...

You get the picture. :)

[MissMarple]

67. Sounds like a kid's attempt at writing his own excuse for being absent.

"Please excuse little Joey for being absent yesterday.
Joey's mom."

[BlueStateGirl]

69. Are any of Casey's numerous cousins serving right now? Given how

they support the troops, the country and the president, I damn sure hope they are.

[cmd]

71. "her son's" not our

That's the clue. A real relative would never use that language.

[Dawgs]

120. Exactly...

No grandmother would use "her son's" to refer to her own grandson. They would use his actual name. This is the giveaway.

[melissinha]

73. Notice reply by Casey's relative

Though as we cannot verify this post in addition to the abovementioned "letter" its quite different:

I was given the link to this website. I am related to Casey and I want you all to know that his whole family wholeheartedly supports Cindy. Neither I nor any other family members have ever heard of Cherie Quarterolo.

Cindy speaks for our family. It is bad enough to suffer the loss of Casey, but to have websites making up lies about my family is nearly intolerable.

Ann.

[johnnie]

76. Where is that from?

This should have it's own thread.

[melissinha]

127. its in the actual link on that site

Its the last comment on that link that the thread originator posted from. http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/002082.html

it has as much credibility as the original "letter" but its there....

[Chichiri]

74. Interesting that that short letter uses the word "silently" twice.

As if they're saying they're doing exactly what the Bush administration WANTS the familes of dead soldiers to do: SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

There's no way this wasn't written by a freeper. Simply no way.

[supernova]

75. Seriously doubting this letter

is coming from anyone close to Cindy or her son.

[Hubert Flottz]

77. Cousin dAnn and Cousin Rush should move on and get over it.

If you believe ANYTHING a GOPer tells you at this stage of the game, you probably need to be under the constant care of a good team of mental health experts!

[dogday]

78. I did not see a link, just words, no

source file to confirm. It is just some right winger trying to get some traffic and stir up some crap... I just don't think a family would ever do this, regardless of what political affiliation they are....

[Mutley]

80. Do I smell a fake?

Even if this is real, who cares? What difference does it make? The so called "rest of the family" has every right to feel the way they do, as does Cindy. They have the right to deal with their grief in the way they see fit, as does Cindy. Cindy is Casey's mother. To me, that puts her opinion above and beyond the opinion of rest of the family.

In any case, I think this makes them look really bad. If they love Cindy, they should be supporting her whether they agree with her or not. Sounds like they have their own "agenda" to push.

[Goldmund]

84. I totally agree

I think it's outrageous they would do this EVEN IF IT IS REAL. Which, as many have pointed out, is hardly believable, since they didn't sign their names.

I wonder if Conyers would have delivered his DSM petition signed "numerous patriotic Americans".

[Mutley]

91. Numerous patriotic Americans.

:rofl: Too true.

If a conservative member of my family, of which there are many, were going through something like this, I would support them 100% because they are my family and I love them. I would NEVER attempt to publicly denounce what they are doing. I think that is despicable.

[Carni]

82. Even if it IS true I could give a rat's ass!

The woman has every right to demand an answer from that asshole hiding in his Crawford pig sty as to why her son was killed in a war BASED ON FORGERIES AND LIES!

Aren't you the same poster that urged people to stay away from Crawford because you didn't want her cause *hijacked* a few days ago?

Now you post this?

[Goldmund]

86. Yes, now I post this, and I've posted many things in between.

If you'd rather be stumped next time a Freeper says "not even her family supports her", be my guest.

Also, it's a complete lie that I said her cause would be "hijacked". I said her message would be weakened. Jesus Christ, it's too much to ask of some people here to actually read what they're foaming about.

[Carni]

93. If that is the case then I apologize

I had a knee jerk reaction to the original post.

[Goldmund]

96. It's cool

:hug:

[TeeYiYi]

85. Not signed with actual names. It's BS IMO. nt

TYY

[Individualist]

87. Are you for real?

You found this shit on FR, posted it here, and asked if it's for real?? :spank:

[Goldmund]

90. Yup

I'm not a member of the "turn your eyes away from everything that remotely doesn't look good" contingent. :)

I posted this so that we can either 1) debunk it, or 2) think of a response to it, because you do know that in this PR battle, the right wing will be using this as fodder.

We've done 1) pretty well, methinks.

[Individualist]

100. I'm a member of the "don't go to FR" contingent

If I were ever to go there, I'd feel so filthy that I'd never feel clean again. As for needing to debunk this shit you've posted, any fool could read it once and see it's reich wing lies. Or did you not notice all the replies indicating it's a right wing smear?

[Goldmund]

104. I'm not. I check out FR once a day at least.

And I plan on continuing to do so.

As far as the replies you're refering to, mine are among them.

[SidDithers]

88. Statement from the Bush Family...

Bush Family Statement:

The Bush Family grieves with Cindy Sheehan for her beloved Casey and we have been silently, respectfully disagreeing with the actions of President Bush. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of President Bush. He has been promoting his own personal agenda and profiting from the sacrifice of American service members in Iraq. The rest of the Bush Family supports the troops, and wishes them a speedy return home.

Sincerely,

George W. Bush's nieces, nephews, children and various pets.


Sid

[Goldmund]

92. .

:rofl:

[supernova]

102. Perfect!

:D

[marions ghost]

107. LOL good one Sid

:applause:

we should spread that one around

[dogday]

117. Exactly like they would do it

that's how we have to fight, down and dirty just like them.. Nice guys finish last.... Perfect.. I think I had heard somewhere the Bush family was against the war right? Right...

[Canuckistanian]

89. San Fransiscans! Do you know about this Melanie Morgan?

She seems to be the source. A reporter who freely admits she gives a "conservative spin" to the news?

So why would she be the source?

[Goldmund]

94. Another good point

I'm sure CNN or MSRNC would have no problem covering this if it were credible.

But apparently, not even FAUX could carry it with a straight face.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

99. Melanie Morgan is a hardcore RW hag...

on our local Rush/Savage station. She is a lying sack of shit who is on par with the afore mentioned propogandists.

If it came from her, I seriously doubt its veracity.

[marions ghost]

111. GOOD question....?

who's this?

[OrlandoGator]

95. No names. Interesting.

n/t

[Misunderestimator]

97. Great... Let me start my "Relatives against Bush" page right away.

:eyes:

[Goldmund]

106. Check out post #88

Maybe you want to add your name to it -- what was it? "The State of California"? :D

[DistressedAmerican]

98. Doubt It. But, Mother Still Trumps All Other Relatives In My Book.

I seriously doubt the authenticity.

Either way his mother lost more than anyone that purportedly signed on to this lie...

[FreedomAngel82]

101. If this is true

Why aren't they on Bill O'Reilly's show? Why aren't they making a more public announcement?

[Goldmund]

110. Apparently, as I said in a post above,

not even FAUX could cover this with a straight face.

[Ripley]

108. Wow, your daily post to smear Cindy.

Wasn't it just yesterday you said she "flip-flopped" and asked about it in such an innocent way.

Maybe you should stop spamming the board.

[Goldmund]

112. Flip-flopped? Nope, that wasn't me.

Maybe you should stop making shit up.

[Ripley]

113. Oh, pardon me.

You were the one who said people should not go to Crawford to join Cindy. It would "hurt the cause" or some such bile.

[Goldmund]

114. Right.

I said that I believed -- and I still do -- that the media and other military families should join Cindy, but that the event would be weakened if it turned into a mass rally.

You're welcome do disagree.

[Cha]

109. If this is even true that Cindy

Sheehan has relatives who are freeptards..then it would be just like their Stupid mindset to intrude on the grief of a mother for her son with their own inane thinking..

"The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect."

Yeah, roll over and lay down and keep your fucking traps shut, you Dumb Sheep, and let w get away with the LIES that led us into bombing Iraq and Killing Soldiers like Casey.

[EstimatedProphet]

115. Not to change the subject, but...

Has anyone followed that link to the Idiotboy's blog? I just did, and I feel sickened by what was there. Idiotboy goes on about how personally annoyed he is by Cindy's actions (I'm sure that the reason she decided to protest was to personally annoy you, Idiotboy), and then starts talking about the Fascist DJ in San Francisco as a "right wing death babe", which also turns on all the freepers that respond. Of course, being a death-lover and murderer wannabe like Idiotboy, he couldn't see how sick it is to refer to someone as a "death babe".

[dogday]

118. Should you not verify before posting IdiotBoy?

YET ANOTHER: Comments have been closed (and some may be deleted) because I'm not going to tolerate abuse by either side. Knock it off, kids. Email me directly if you have knowledge of any of the people involved, please. I will delete this post if it is demonstrated that the original statement is fake or if I can't confirm it soon]

[EstimatedProphet]

129. I did verify

I went to his blog. He says those things. He has a string of people lined up talking about how cool a phrase "right wing death babe" is.
So, I don't get your point. Is it that I am calling him IdiotBoy? Fine. I nicknamed him, based on the fact that he is apparently turned on by calling someone a "death babe".
I dind't say one word about whether the email is true or false. I'm talking about something else. And it can be verified by going to his site.
On edit: if you're calling me IdiotBoy I expect an apology. Now.

[Stirk]

119. They don't even name the relatives. It's obvious bullshit.

If here family wanted to go on record like this, don't you think they'd list their names? This thing is such obvious garbage it's not even worth discussing.

[Stephanie]

122. Utter bullshit - and that's what you get at Free Republic

The poster notes that he found the article at Free Republic, so what do you expect?

The linked site claims the letter is from the GODMOTHER, not even a family member. Even if that is true, why are none of the family members named? I agree with you - this is garbage.

The email is from Cherie Quarterolo, who is speaking for the family and is Casey Sheehan's godmother.

[Cleita]

121. BS. Don't you think the media would snap up any member

of Cindy Sheehan's immediate family and interview them all over the place on the talk shows? They would grab on anything to discredit her.

[Goldmund]

123. Too true.

[AlCzervik]

125. you have a good point-they'd be on Faux "News" 24/7 if true.

[LynneSin]

126. People - the story is borderline fake - please read

Folks - did you check out the SecondBreakfast.net website?


It's a neo-con blog site. Supposively some family member related to Cindy Sheehan phoned into some 3rd rate talk show in San Francisco to blast against Cindy. If this was a real letter, then why would 'the family' send it to a 3rd rate news show. Why not send it to Fox or CNN or MSNBC where one of those stations might take a 2 minute break from that Aruba girl to cover the story that Cindy's family opposed what she was doing. Believe me, especially Fox News would be all over a story like this if it meant discrediting a grieving widow opposed to their lord & savior George Bush

My guess, is some distant relative to Cindy who obviously is very pro-bush/pro-war decided to call into that 3rd rate neo-con repuke radio show and made it out like the whole family was supporting her.

It's obviously a load of crock, there aren't even names associated with those that are opposing - just generic titles.

[Junkdrawer]

128. Don't look now, but Drudge is leading with the story..

Fox, then CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS...

Familiar trajectory?

[Technowitch]

130. Locking...

...as the person who posted this has been banned.

-Technowitch
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