Dating advice from James Dobson's daughter

[quaoar]

She tells boys to stay away from those non-Christian girls who might tempt them to do bad things.

http://www.breakawaymag.com/Girls/A000000004.cfm

Suppose you have confirmed proof that a girl likes you. Not every female who's interested in you is someone you should be interested in. Before you spend too much time trying to attract a particular girl, it's important to find out whether she is a Christian. By choosing to date only Christian girls, you lesson the chance of compromising your principles.

Why does it matter? A girl without spiritual conviction can tempt you to go places you don't want to go or do things you know you shouldn't. As 1 Corinthians 15:33 says, “Do not be misled: ‘Bad company corrupts good character.' “ So watch out for the girl who struts around like a TV celebrity. You're too eager for a girlfriend if she can take advantage of you by getting you to do her homework, to keep giving her money or to lie or steal for her.

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From your perspective, superficiality (wearing too much makeup can be a warning), use of vulgar language and trend-following (looking like MTV fashion clones) are danger signs for you to avoid in a girl.

Jesus said, “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:20 ). That's not what they eat; it's how they act. If you're uncertain about a girl's spiritual condition, just watch for the clues. If she brags on herself, talks about money too much or mentions a wild party she just attended, it's time to move on. There could be rotten fruit on that tree.

[meegbear]

1. Bet she's a catch on a Saturday nite!

Might as well as date your mother.

[ET Awful]

5. Nah, my mom is FUN. . . that'd be like dating my great grandmother

:)

[katsy]

21. Nahhh....

Bet your great-grandmother was more fun. After all, doesn't she count as part of the "tree" you came from?

dobson's daughter must be related to norman bates' bloodline.

[ET Awful]

27. Yeah, but my great-grandmother was a pentecostal psychopath

:)

She fell somewhere between Dobson and Margaret White (as in Carrie's mother).

[katsy]

32. ROFL

Sorry!

[ET Awful]

35. Hehehe, yeah, her and my great grandfather were the type who

thought that you'd go to hell for dancing, wearing make-up, not going to church every week, thinking any impure thoughts, wearing your hair too long (or too short if you're a female), etc.

My mom used to crack us up doing an impersonation of my great grandfather . . .

"You can't wear makeup or you'll go to hell. Wear your skirt longer or you'll burn in hell. No dancin' that's the Devil's business. If you don't go to church you'll burn in hell. You can sleep with the neighbors wife as long as you don't get caught. If you get caught, you'll burn in hell."

She'd imitate him going off on one of his tirades then just subtly slip that "neighbor's wife" in at the end and we'd be in tears from laughing so hard :).

[knitter4democracy]

39. That's great!

It sounds like the church I grew up in. :D

Thanks for the laugh!

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Oh brother

LOL and you can sleep with the neighbors wife as long as you don't get caught?? :wtf: That's adultery which is a big no-no and something Jesus talked about (and divorce).

[ET Awful]

56. Like I said, that was part of my mom's schtick when she was making

fun of him :)

[katsy]

46. Hey... at least you can laugh about some

of the characters in your family.

My grandfather emigrated from Greece to America and killed a proper white man for calling him some deragatory name. Talk about skeletons in family closets.

[Talismom]

2. I saw the perfect bumper sticker message for Dobson!

Focus on your own damn family!

[tx_dem41]

3. Oh somebody has to ask it....

is she hot?

Crawling back under my rock.... :)

[Sparkly]

11. "No, but she's got a great spiritual condition." n/t

[Journeyman]

22. You'll have to gauge for yourself, tx. . .

[WorseBeforeBetter]

25. If you like pouty blondes...

Just remember, "By choosing to date only Christian girls, you lesson the chance of compromising your principles."

Dating, doing, whatever.

[ET Awful]

31. Let me expand on that "pouty blondes that dress like Blossom"

:evilgrin:

[WorseBeforeBetter]

53. Ha. Well, we can safely say...

she isn't falling prey to "trend-following (looking like MTV fashion clones)..." At least in this decade!

[tx_dem41]

33. Nope...waaay too much baggage.

But, we knew that already.

[FreedomAngel82]

44. Isn't she trying to look seductive there?

Tsk tsk tsk.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

50. Definitely...she has that "doe eyes" thing going on.

"Tsk" is right!

[JDPriestly]

4. By their fruit = by the way they act.

But, I thought we were supposed to interpret the Bible literally. How dare she?

[formerrepuke]

6. What she means is: "Look for a brood mare"... no thanks, I'll keep

lookin' for the 'bad' girls.

[Connie_Corleone]

7. Good Christian girls like....Jessica Simpson.

[NewJeffCT]

20. or my ex-wife

Christian woman & former Hooters girl, too.

[Bob3]

8. so when Jesus was eating and drinking and talking with

the tax collectors and the hookers he shouldn't have?

god what a crock.

[meganmonkey]

9. Uh-huh. Like my friends from the Christian girls high school

were pure as...um...dirty snow? :P

[NewJeffCT]

18. A guy I used to know...

he was older at the time, so when we were in high school, us high schoolers looked up to him for dating advice.

but, he would say, "if you really want a good time with a girl, go drive by Mercy High School (the local all-girls Catholic school)" and he went on to imply that the girls would practically jump in your car...

[FreedomAngel82]

45. LOL

That's very telling. They are too supressed to not enjoy life and the like.

[Not_Giving_Up]

10. Well, considering her father suggests that men should show

their sons their own penises to make sure they don't turn gay, I'm not suprised she is fucked in the head.

I was raised by followers of FOTF. Sex was something dirty and evil that was never discussed.

[zbdent]

12. Makes you wonder how many fewer rapes would occur if

"Christian Males" would actually follow what they were taught . . .

[BOSSHOG]

13. Those wacky little christian kids have it figured out

They can and do engage in all kinds of sexual activity except vaginal intercourse and still maintain they are virgins. How sweet. Fucked up adolescents - another conservative legacy.

Dobson is like limbaugh and other conservative fucksticks; Can't make a living any other way.

[FreedomAngel82]

48. Really

I remember one time watching something on MSNBC and a lot of teenagers (young teens and middle aged teens) were being the subject with sex and parties and the like and they didn't consider oral sex to be sex! I mean: hello!!

[Kerrytravelers]

14. My hateful fundy BIL knocked up my hateful fundy SIL before they married.

Apparently, they stood in front of the church congreation and asked forgivness. Mr kt (this was years before I met him) said he's never seen anything so stupid in his life. People came over to comfort HIM because ms. fundy-fruitcake hatemonger was preggers.

Oh, the irony. Oh, the hypocracy.

[Beetwasher]

15. Girls From Uptight Xtian Families Were ALWAYS The Easiest and Dirtiest

nymphos around when I was growing up...

[katsy]

16. This sounds like a novel I once read...

and one of the characters obsessed with the kind of nonsense dobson's daughter seems obsessed about turned out to be a serial killer.

The character hated intelligent, independant, self-made women.

Sheeeesh.

[jmowreader]

17. Wearing too much makeup is a warning about superficiality?

So this explains all the women on TBN!

[katsy]

24. Hell it may explain...

politicians mugging for the camera.

[ET Awful]

29. What does that say about Tammie Fae Baker?

:evilgrin:

[jmowreader]

59. I think you get the point...fundamentalism is superficiality

[FreedomAngel82]

49. LOL

Most girls my age at my church are pretty modest and conservative in how they dress. They don't wear gobs of makeup or anything. They keep it pretty natural as do I. I can't stand gobs of makeup. It makes me feel like my face is being plastered or something.

[shaniqua6392]

19. I had two friends

who were good Christian girls...Wow did they know how to party. They are so restricted when around parents and church, but then they really let loose!!! Then they settle down with a good Christian man who thinks that they are still virgins and live happily ever after.

[FreedomAngel82]

52. LOL

I think if you are too surpressed in life and aren't allowed to have fun then that's the case. When I was younger I went to a few girls only get togethers with the other girls in the youth group at my church. They weren't bad at all. Of course I didn't know them that well and don't know how they'd behave out on the town or at college. All the girls though now for the most part go to a Christian college (Freed Hardman or Limpscomb). Only a few small handful of us go to regular schools. Just from me watching all the other people who are Christians it seems that those who are really really big-time fundamentalist end up in that scenero. Partying and the like. If you're not tied down and you have pretty good parents who aren't strict then I think you'd be fine. My parents are Christians and raised my brother and I in a Christian home (and we're both Christians now and choose to be on our own)but our parents weren't strict or anything like that. They let me go out on Friday nights with my friends to the movie's and sleep-overs and things like that. I never had a crufew but I usually came home around 11pm est or so. The latest I ever came home was around 12:30am est and that was from a Halloween party a family friend through for the college group at our church.

[xxqqqzme]

23. '...you lesson the chance of ...'

how about lessEn instead. Guess that home schoolin' didn't include spellin'.

[Mr. McD]

26. I dated a couple of those Christian girls in high school.

They may have been shouting praise the lord in church on Sunday morning but on Saturday it was "oh my god" in the back of my 59 Chrysler.

I doubt things have changed that much.:) :) :) :) :)

[TlalocW]

28. Frank Zappa's "Catholic Girls" is running through my head

Actually, just head to the South and look for the kids of evangelicals and born-agains. Their own internal polls show that the adults are just as bad or worse than the rest of America when it comes to divorce, pornography, living together before marriage, and not knowing how to raise kids properly.

TlalocW

[mark11727]

30. "Hide your dirty pillows...!"

Sorry, it just popped out.

[MisterP]

34. show them your winky if you're a he: that's what Pop Dobson sez

[Armstead]

36. I have very high dating standards

1)To meet my high standards, a woman has to be interested in me.

2)A woman has to be interested in me.

3)She has to be intrerested in me....

Oh nevermind....

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[quaoar]

40. Yeah, right.

[knitter4democracy]

38. Um . . . . *blush* I was one of those girls.

I was one of those Christian girls who would only date Christian guys, and my hubby and I tempted the heck out of each other when we were dating. ;)

Everything she says, though, should go the other way--if he's any of those things, she should run.

I'd like to add my own list as well:
-if she runs out of the room whenever anything about sex is mentioned, run like heck
-if she only wears "proper" clothes (long skirts, no make-up, long hair, full blouses), be prepared for either a minx or someone whose sexuality is so locked up it won't be a healthy relationship
-if she's a Christian Ed. major, she wants to marry a pastor, so move along
-get to know her friends, as they're the best at knowing what she's really like ;)
-if she's at the altar every single service, run like the wind, as she has many, many, many issues and will be trouble

Sorry . . . old Christian college training coming out :D

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Oh brother

My mother dated guys when she was younger who I'm sure weren't Christian. :eyes: And how can you get someone to believe in your religion unless you go out into the world? I want to have a husband someday who shares my faith and can grow with me in my faith but if God leads me to a person who doesn't share my faith I can invite him to church with me and we can study together. If I fall in love with someone who isn't a Christian it might be for some greater purpose. How do you know God didn't send this person to you? It's all about personal responsibility. Too many times someone gets involved in something (like sex) and they don't take any responsibility but blame the other person. Of course if it's rape that's different but if it's consenuel and you agree to it then it takes two....

[FreedomAngel82]

43. I wonder if she practices what she preaches

[MadHound]

47. Geez, that's a hoot

Some of the wildest, most sexually active, kinkiest kids in high school were the good little Christians. Sure, they were at church all prim and proper on Sundays and Wednesday Bible Study, but the other five days of the week, oh my:blush:!

The main reason for this in my opinion is that they were such repressed people in their home life that they lost all control given half a chance.

Trouble is, the vast majority of those good little Christian kiddies, while wild as all get out, and fun for a night or two, were absolutely the wrong people to even consider for a serious relationship. Too much baggage, and then having to deal with their family on top of that, no thanks. Tried it one time, never ever again.

[verdalaven]

51. We are agnostic and my daughter has never been exposed

to religion in any form.

My daughter's friends are Christian and a few months ago had invited her to a youth group event where they went around helping out older people who couldn't do their yard work, ect. She went--then spent the entire time fending off the extremely aggressive attentions of one Churchy young man. She told him numerous times that she had a boyfriend and she wasn't interested but he would not stop bugging her or staring at her, even going so far as touching her (she smacked his hand). I told her that he is the perfect example of a future date rapist.

Then I told her to stay away from Christian boys.

[FreedomAngel82]

57. I believe that too

I think that's the case too. Too many times parents don't let their teenagers live and go by their own standars and they usually know what they can and can not control. My parents were never strict on me and I grew up in a Christian home. Of course my parents weren't fundies. My dad is a deacon in the church and he even watches "R" movies and stuff. They let me go out on Friday nights and hang out with my friends. I usually was home around 11pm est but that was my choice. They never told me when I had to be home and I was able to stay over at a friends and things like that. One time my mom even let me skip school once. Most of my grade went on a school trip and I just decided to stay home and they let me. I was surprised personally. About a year or two ago a family friend at my church had a Halloween party for all of us college kids and my brother and I went and we stayed there till around 12:30am est and the family friend and his wife even let some of the group stay and camp out in their backyard. None of the Christian's I know and grew up with were that way either as far as I know of course. They all dated and had girlfriends and boyfriends and pretty serious relationships. One guy my brother knows dated a girl who wasn't a Christian but he invited her in the beginning to come to the Wednesday night services cause that's when the youth group meets and it's just fun and games based around a Biblical scripture and it's not so much pressure. She started coming with him all the time and even when they broke up! Now she's a regular at church and became baptized and a member and is pretty strong in her faith and a really sweet person. I'm not sure if anybody else in her family are Christians though. So you see what could happen when you go out into the world?

[quaoar]

58. That's what hapens when teenagers are kept

under too repressive rules and when they do get to mingle they don't know how to act properly.

[maxrandb]

54. Bad Zoot!

"Oh evil wicked naughty Zoot! She must be punished. She must be spanked!

Yes, and then spank me, and then me, and me, and me

and then...

The oral sex"

[rinsd]

55. Her Dad thinks fathers should show their sons quality shower time (nt)