I put together a political cartoon of Cindy's fight in Crawford

[gatorboy]

It's a reply to this earlier thread where Redstone requested a Tiananmen Square theme:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4319162&mesg_id=4319162

Anyway, I was hoping to get some feedback on it to see if it needs anything else. If anyone would like to use it, you're more than welcome. Thanks!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. This is awesome. I actually thought of the Tianamen guy too, when I

read about Cindy... not as a cartoon as you have done, but the same kind of lone, heroic resistance.

Your cartoon is excellent though. Kicked and nominated.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

83. Ditto and one of the the original "cartoons"

Tianamen

[BattyDem]

2. That's awesome!

:toast:

[Mnemosyne]

3. That is great gatorboy! The hat

is so perfect and you can see the determination in her stance.
Really like it! Thanks for sharing, think it'll go in my front window with "We Stand With Cindy" signs.

[BattyDem]

5. The hat is great, isn't it?

It leaves no doubt that it's Cindy!

[Mnemosyne]

22. Funny, even a drawn cartoon and she shows more

spirit and compassion with her backside than the entire * family ever has in a photo!!

[BattyDem]

24. LOL ... that's so true!

:rofl:

[Spazito]

4. Wow! Excellent work!

It is just what I saw through Redstone's text description, you are very good!

[Richard Steele]

6. That's just BEAUTIFUL, gatorboy! Very nicely done.

[Lerkfish]

7. nice work!

the only part that gets muddled is the space between cheney and bush...

even though its not logical, I'd lighten the space under bush's left (our left) elbow.
bush's face gets lost in the dark contrast. Or, maybe put white in his (our) left ear....maybe that's what's hitting me.

you managed to make a likeness of cindy from the back!! not a mean feat...excellent work!

[despairing optimist]

8. Great work. Did you send it to Cindy's sites?

www.crawfordpeacehouse.org is one of them. I forget the other's URL. Then there's www.truthout.org.

[BattyDem]

19. www.meetwithcindy.org

That's the other one. :-)

[despairing optimist]

30. Thanks for the help.

I'm so tired, I couldn't remember it. I'd better log off. DU is so addictive!

[gatorboy]

70. Thanks for the link!

What the heck! I'll send it and hope she likes it. :)

[PatriotGames]

9. You got skills. No chit. Mind if I print it out and display it?

[I Have A Dream]

35. He said that it's OK in the original post:

"If anyone would like to use it, you're more than welcome."

[LoKnLoD]

10. You're an excellent artist

That cartoon is awesome. Great job.

[silverweb]

11. Perfect!

A perfect capture!

:applause:

[yorkiemommie1]

12. beautiful

n/t

[tk2kewl]

13. is your work published regularly?

that is the shit.

[uppityperson]

14. Excellent

[TexasLady]

15. fantastic and on my desktop background n.t

[ClayZ]

74. We did too! n/t

[jojo54]

16. Kicked and nominated.

Great work gatorboy. Wish I had skills like that.

edited to add: why not send it to some newspapers???

[blm]

17. No surprise...it gets my vote.

Thank you, gatorboy.

[Rude Horner]

18. Holy moly!

Wow, if you're not a paid political cartoonist already, dude you SHOULD BE!!! That is as good as anything I've seen, and better than a lot I've seen!

[juajen]

20. Fantastic work!

I hope you were sincere in wanting a little bit of criticism. Honest, just a little observation. I think her legs are a lttle short. Cindy is tall. Perhaps you wanted her to look short compared to the tank, but her legs are longer, cher.

[Liberal In Texas]

21. Brilliant. n/t

[sonias]

23. I love it!

Fantastic work. You captured the whole spirit. Cindy would love a copy I'm sure.

Sonia

[pacalo]

25. WOW! I'm impressed, gatorboy. It would make a great t-shirt visual.

[Nothing Without Hope]

117. This is so true! I'd love to see that happen!

DUer DistressedAmerican makes merchandise. Here's his web site:
http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/main.htm

If you PM or email him I'll bet he'd take this and run.

[KarenS]

26. Great Work!! I love it!!

I'm going to put it on my desktop too!

Thank You

[Geoff R. Casavant]

27. I have no adjectives

that can do it justice. The closest is "sublime."

[sakabatou]

28. Wow! Truely awesome!

[Mr_Spock]

29. That's a fantasic comic - thanks for sharing that with us

:D

[Maru Kitteh]

31. I LOVE THAT!

I'm going to Crawford on Saturday, may I put that on a T-shirt for my personal use only?

I'd be happpy/proud to promote you however you would like!

[Redstone]

32. Excellent. Absolutely PERFECT!. But let's be sure to give

"blm" the credit for the original idea.

Redstone

[blm]

42. That's sweet, but, it really was your post that brought it to mind.

.

[DistressedAmerican]

33. Might I Say FUCKING AWESOME!!!

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

34. wow, I really like it!

It looks really good as it is!

[sonias]

36. gatorboy you should send that to the LoneStar Iconoclast

I bet they would run it too. The little Crawford paper that will.
http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/

Sonia

[BuyingThyme]

37. You've said it all.

[kansasblue]

38. Excellent! Excellent! First class. That should zip around the net!

[smartvoter]

39. Outstanding! nt

[troubleinwinter]

40. I will email it to my Chinese friend in Beijing.

He toured me through Tiananmen Square, and recounted the event to me. He was amazed that I knew more about it than he did (he is young), and stunned that it was so important and well known to Americans. He refered to it as "the revolution".

He will LOVE this!

[BuyingThyme]

41. So, who can put this on a few HUGE banners and get 'em off to Crawford?

(w/ the artist's permission, of course).

[Redstone]

43. You need to sign that. It's going to be famous soon.

Redstone

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

45. Yes, it will be famous, overnight. Sign it.

[ultraist]

56. Good point, And send it in to newspapers!

[blm]

64. Past editting time to sign it. Maybe mods or admins can let him in to sign

before it gets too out of hand.

Sounds like it's zipping around the world already.

[gatorboy]

68. Thanks!

I'll give one of the mod's an "allo" and see if they'll let me give it an edit.

[TahitiNut]

96. Sign the image, not the post.

It'd be useless to edit the post. Just replace the image on PhotoBucket with a signed (and 'copyright'ed) image.

This is a fabulous editorial cartoon that deserves widespread publication.

[blm]

101. Heheh...that's what I meant to say.....

Trust me...noone comes to me for tech talk.

;)))))))))))))))

[ultraist]

44. cool!

You should have shirts done at cafepress (it's free).

[longship]

46. Recommended

and kicked
:kick:

[MaggieSwanson]

47. You are amazing!

Great work.

[Tuesday_Morning]

48. That's really wonderful! n/t

[Turn CO Blue]

49. What about putting your signature or logo on it? I don't see it if

it's already there... If you add the signature, repost it please, so I can print that one.

Otherwise, it's a homerun, baby!


---
tcb

[Independent_Liberal]

50. Great work!

I couldn't have done a better job myself! Absolutely brilliant!

:D

[Booster]

51. Wow, gaterboy, that is perfect. I wish the LA Times would hire you

and fire Michael Rodriguez. Your stuff is much better.

[Booster]

54. Make that GATORBOY - sorry. It's fabulous and can I send it to

everyone I know?

[usregimechange]

52. Love it! Thanks for your time on this.

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Oh man. That is AWESOME!

:thumbsup:

[frictionlessO]

55. 26 noms enough feedback for ya!?

Great job! Excellent!

[BuyingThyme]

59. I've been watching that too.

I wonder what the record is.

[proud patriot]

57. Thanks that's great

:yourock:

[grace0418]

58. Perfect. Absolutely perfect. This is coming from a fellow artist

and I tell ya, there's no way I could've done better. You nailed it. I have tears in my eyes.

[Stuckinthebush]

60. Wow. You are damn good.

Really good.

[Norwood]

61. Perfect

[Bozita]

62. Superb, simply superb

Thanks.

[Spazito]

63. Kick!

*

[Swamp Rat]

65. EXCELLENT!!!

:applause: :yourock:

NOMINATED!!!

[Pam-Moby]

66. Oh this is fantastic and very fitting-Thanks n/t

[gatorboy]

67. Whoa!!!

I leave the computer for Stewart then to clean a few dishes and I come back to this! :party:

I'm speechless. Thank you guys so much for the compliments. It really means alot! When Redstone requested a strip from BLM's idea I got right on it after work and finished it up just before The Daily Show came on (In between I had to draw a few monkeys for my son and his buddy :) ).

When I was in college I actually drew a political strip called Gatorboy, but I never got around to sending my work out for wide circulation (Laziness will do that :P).

And thanks for the art feedback from Lerkfish & juajen. I was afraid that some of the detail would get lost between Cheney and Bush but I think I can fix that up.
I have no problem with a critique, Cher. That's how we learn! :)I admit, drawing Cindy was the most difficult part of the drawing. I probably resketched her a dozen times before I was satisifed with her stance. After I put the ink down I noticed her legs looked a bit too short (Almost like a little kid), but in the end a smaller, stronger presence seemed to work better.

Yes, anyone that would like to pass it around, please do! When I get back onto Photoshop I'll add my signature if you guys like. I can also load a larger image also. The original is around 13x13 and I have it scanned in at 300 dpi so having a clearer image for a banner, etc. is no problem. I was afraid that a larger image would kill anyone's computer that still uses narrow band.

All of your generous compliments have really got me thinking about trying my hand at political cartooning again. I didn't give it much thought for years because the market is so sparse but what the Hell! Thanks for the new drive, guys! :bounce:

Do you think Cindy would mind if I sent an email of the image to her? Actually, I would love to send her the original if I could find a way to get ahold of her.

Thanks again guys! Now back to the dishes! :crazy:

Chris

[faithnotgreed]

69. beautiful and yes do sign it send it

there are plenty of duers who are down there

will pitt
anarchy1999 (sherry)
dylan garcia

are a few that come to mind who im sure would be proud to pass this along to cindy when they find out about it

you truly rock (and please do share your talent and your heart by getting back into political cartooning)

[i miss america]

95. Awesome work gatorboy!

Thank you for sharing your terrific artwork with us. By all means, send it to Cindy. She and her son are true American heroes, unlike the war criminals aboard the tank.

:yourock:

[Melissa G]

136. sonias and I are going to see Cindy tomorrow.

I am (F)friends with the Quaker crowd over at the Peace House. PM me if you want me to get something to Cindy.
Great cartoon!

[gatorboy]

137. Thank you, Melissa!

& PM sent! :)

[NuttyFluffers]

71. My God, it's beautiful. So powerful. n/t

[ClayZ]

72. Brilliant! I notice she has been holding 2 yellow roses

For the last coulple weeks! You have a masterpiece here. Send it too all the newspapers~

[tabasco]

73. You are very talented !

Excellent work - the combinaton of two great minds (yourself & Redstone).

IMO, keep it simple. Just fine the way it is.

[hippywife]

75. Most excellent! n/t

[oxbow]

76. You should totally send this to the WP, NYT and/or LAT

even if its your local city paper, it will probably get in. This is very good and timely too. Thanks alot!

[BuyingThyme]

77. kcik

Page 2? I think not.

[BuyingThyme]

78. Ray Taliaferro talked about Gatorboy's cartoon on KGO Radio

at about 1:40 PST this morning.

[Swamp Rat]

84. Yaay! gatorboy!!! We all heard it!!!

:woohoo:

[texanwitch]

79. This cartoon needs to be sent to Air America. I bet Randy would

post on her website, Mike Malloy would love it.

[Lefta Dissenter]

80. OMFG

Quite simply amazing.

...and a kick, too.

[kliljedahl]

82. Another kick, great job

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[w8liftinglady]

81. What talent!

I expect you will see this show up across the country,in various media....excellent work.

[StaggerLee]

85. Love it!

Powerful yet not overpowering.

:)

[DistressedAmerican]

86. Kicker!

[nookiemonster]

87. Wow. Just fucking wow.

Thanks so much.

[sldavis]

88. going on my bulletin board

Very poignant

[Misunderestimator]

89. That's good!

:thumbsup:

[Spazito]

90. Kick back to Page 1

Talent like this should be seen by everyone!

[Stephanie]

91. I think you should sign it

This cartoon is going to be emailed around the world and back a few times - sign your name.

xx
S

[GreenPartyVoter]

92. Perfect and THANKS!

[Armstead]

93. Perfect...This should spread all over

Perfect image of what's happening.

[Crankie Avalon]

94. WOW!!!

This should be on every editorial page in the country. Seriously, it's much better than most of the cartoons I see in America's biggest newspapers.

I love that this site has folks this talented on it. I wonder how inept a cartoon put together on the Freep site would look like.

[moggie]

97. I'm going to be unpopular for saying this

First, let me emphasise that I support what Cindy Sheehan is doing 100%. She's a brave and honourable woman, and when the history of this terrible administration is written, I hope this protest is seen as a turning point. But I'm uneasy about this cartoon (technically excellent though it is). The "tank guy" in Tiananmen Square (nobody seems to know for sure who he was) placed his life on the line for democracy. When I saw the news reports back in 1989, his action brought tears to my eyes. It was one of the bravest acts I'd ever seen. He knew, when he stood in front of those tanks, that he could be shot dead or run down on the spot, and that, if that didn't happen, he was likely to be executed later (some reports claim that the latter happened), or to rot away in one of China's brutal jails. Cindy Sheehan has paid a heavy price, losing her son, and she faces smears and threats for her protest. But, if we're honest, is what she faces on the same scale as that? She seems to be a modest and dignified woman, so am I out of line in suspecting that she would be uncomfortable with this comparison?

[Spazito]

99. Cindy is doing the very same as the man in the original photo

relatively speaking. She is putting her body and soul in front of the neocons ruling the US and demanding they answer her questions. If martial law is declared in the US, this very situation could actually occur, imo, and Cindy is standing out front before that can happen.

[PunkPop]

102. Mission Accomplished!

It's a political cartoon not a doctoral thesis for goodness sake.

Thanks for the analysis though :eyes:

[blm]

103. Many HAVE fallen seeking the truth about BushInc. Whether it be their life

or their livelihood...they have been fallen by Bush's protectors.

Hatfield, Casolaro, and others have died, while Parry and others lost their jobs....for speaking the truth.

[no_to_war_economy]

104. your right ~ you are unpopular on this one

[dxstone]

107. She is standing up to, and causing great embarassment for, one of the...

...most ruthless international crime syndicates, nay, crime cartels, that has ever existed on this earth.
The BFEE seems to enjoy violence for violence sake. They are very powerful and VERY vindictive, and they are NOT used to being defied.
No, they DON'T run their enemies over with tanks. But their enemies have a way of turning up just as dead as if they had indeed been run over in this manner.
IMO, she is putting her entire future on the line with such open defiance, just like the young man in China.
d

[Redstone]

108. You really don't get the point, do you?

The Chinese protestor was one man standing up against the forces of evil.

Mrs Sheehan is one woman standing up against the forces of evil.

She's not alone now, but she was at the beginning.

That's the point.

Please stop nitpicking.

Redstone

[blm]

128. Some folks don't know the level of evil involved with BushInc.

In fact, Poppy Bush gave a mild public reprimand to China for that event and then privately sent an envoy to soothe them that he really wasn't upset but had to say something about it for the newsmedia.

[no_to_war_economy]

98. that is the best ! awesome !! thumbs up

fuck you mr president fuck you

[Dinger]

100. Wow!

Thank you! It's perfect.

[merh]

105. That is wonderful!

Thank you so much!

[Imalittleteapot]

106. Gatorboy - This is fabulous.

Thanks! I WILL use.

You have amazing talent!!!!!!!!!!

[ronnykmarshall]

109. Thanks Gator Boy -----> My New Car Sign

[stevedeshazer]

110. Great job! n/t

[fooj]

111. Great job, gatorboy!

Peace.

[BuyingThyme]

112. kcik

[tk2kewl]

113. cikk

[BuyingThyme]

116. kikc

[tk2kewl]

119. ickk

[helderheid]

114. My GOD, you DREW THAT???

TERRIFIC!!!!

[Nothing Without Hope]

115. This cartoon is FABULOUS!!! And it's now on AllHatNoCattle's page

It's their TGIF/Weekend edition:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/8-12-05_follow_money.htm

(Scroll down)

I'm betting it's been emailed around to tens of thousands of people by now, and oh does it ever make the point!!! WELL DONE!!! To me, it deserves to be enshrined as the very best, right next to Oliphant's masterpiece:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net.nyud.net:8090/ol8115.jpg

And when you're in the top class with Oliphant, you are REALLY at the top!
:applause: :woohoo: :toast:

[no_to_war_economy]

118. looks soooooo great on the desktop

[Nothing Without Hope]

120. Please consider contacting the Crawford paper, THE LONE STAR ICONOCLAST

I bet they'd LOVE to print this as their editorial cartoon. Here's what they had yesterday on Cindy. (This post also includes the URL for their home page.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2000891&mesg_id=2002153

Wouldn't it be lovely to see this being waved around and posted in windows all over Crawford!

And as I mentioned upthread, DUer DistressedAmerican does merchandise like T-shirts. Here's his web site;
http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/main.htm

[AuntiBush]

121. WOW. This Just "Says it All!" Great "Gatorboy!"

:thumbsup:

[iconoclastNYC]

122. GREAT!!! Excellent artistry. Bravo!

Make a cafe press t-shirt! I'd buy one!!!

[novak goes postal]

123. Great Work LOVED IT.

[gatorboy]

124. Thanks again, guys!

Redstone has offered to host a higher res, signed image so when it's set to go, I'll post a link for anyone that would like to have something of a higher quality for shirts and signs.

Thanks again! :)

Chris

[helderheid]

125. Chris, can I post this at www.udpc.org?

I would love to have this on our website!

You best be making a living at this - I am in awe of your work!

[gatorboy]

126. Absolutely, helderheid. Be my guest :)

I am a graphic designer. But doing this for a living...Now that would be nice.

But thanks to the support from you guys, I think I might get back into the political cartooning. I have 3 1/2 years of good material ahead of me (Considering on what your definition of "good" is) :)

Chris

[blm]

129. It's hard to break through, but work like this will get noticed eventually

.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

127. This toon junkie gives it 5 stars, 2 thumbs up

And a SOOOOPER KEEK! :kick:

Excellent work gatorboy!

:woohoo:

[Kerrytravelers]

130. Brilliance should always be kicked and nominated.

Well done, sir, very well done.

[Chichiri]

131. Emailed to all my friends. Everyone do likewise.

This is an incredibly powerful image.

[mzmolly]

132. I am ever amazed at the talent here, and this cartoon is no exception.

One more nomination for the greatest gatorboy.

:yourock:

[gatorboy]

133. Redstone has made a larger file of the drawing available to everyone

Here's one more kick and a link to a higher quality version of the strip:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4334144

Thanks for making this available to everyone, Redstone. Cheers!

[ScamUSA.Com]

134. that is just incredible

ROCKIN

[Ilsa]

135. Awesome, Gatorboy!

I love it the way it is.

What if Bushco mowed down the white crosses? Maybe one tank track in the ditch tearing up the crosses as "collateral damage" to their march to war. Or not. That might be too much to think about.

[TexasLady]

138. I wanted you to know that Cindy saw it tonight

on my computer desktop and went around showing it to the folks at the Peace House. She LOVED it!!!!! She asked me to email it to her.
:yourock:

[TexasLady]

139. Kick!

[Spazito]

140. That is great news, TexasLady!

I am SO glad she has seen it and loves it! It is such a powerful image and depicts the truth!

[blm]

143. TexasLady, maybe you should start a thread to let folks share that news.

This thread has been up awhile and folks will probably miss your reply way down here.

I would suggest adding gatorboy's original post to your new news post.

And thankyou for sharing it at Peace House.

[gatorboy]

144. WOW!

Thank you so much for getting this out, Texaslady. I admit that at first I was a little worried about how she would react to her portrayal in the drawing. I feel so much better now. I only wish I could be over there with you guys. Thanks again!

Chris

[Seabiscuit]

141. If I ran a newspaper I'd print it on my front page. Wow... just WOW!

[tigersumtin]

142. W O W

direct and to the point.

[Kendall33]

145. You must get this published!

You have way too much talent to not be doing this for a living!!!!

[TexasLady]

146. Welcome Kendall33 and a big ol kick

this will become a classic, Im sure of it.