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annerevere Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:08 AM
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Keeping a son out of the Marines - a mom's post
I read this at Kevin Drum's Political Animal site and thought it was worth reading. A post by Global Citizen:

Answer Her Questions, Mr. Bush

It is the absolute least you can do after her son died for your lie. She is outside your ranch, and you know she is there, you have sent your minions out already.

Be a man and get your ass out there and talk to this woman, right now.

If you don't, she will wait you out. You don't get to win this one. Her son died for you. A lot of mothers lost sons for you.

My son almost enlisted in the Marine Reserves in 2001. I wasn't able to talk him out of it, and I was frantic. I have never in my life known such terror as I felt when he told me his plans to enlist in the Marines on your watch. My instincts told me you were bad news for the entire country, and for the military in particular. Thankfully, his father was able to reach him with his experiences as a man who wore the uniform, and keep him a civilian. I thank him, out loud, every day. Let me tell you now what his father said that kept our son out of the Marines:

He told him that he did not trust you, Mr. Bush. He told him that you would prove to be a lying, deceitful, sanctimonious fake-Christian who would get thousands of young men killed while he was in office. He told him, as a veteran (who never fired a shot), not to serve a Commander-in-Chief who doesn't have the good sense to avoid an ill-advised pissing contest, who will go looking for trouble, because his Daddy got to have a war on his watch, and Junior's an inadequate failure and a punk. This meant something coming from his father, who served honorably, and not only upheld the Honor Code while he won the Cold War, he was one of the officers who repaired it after the exodus of seasoned officers in 1974. My son understands that you have destroyed our national credibility, as well as the Honor Code. The Honor Code is the only thing that stands between a military and tyranny on the populace.

I am not happy about my husbands prediction coming true. Cassandra was never my nickname, and I am not a liberal who delights in the mess you have made. I am an American who is heartbroken by it! But my husband served under every C-in-C since Carter, and as a missile man, he had to call the President personally at least once during every administration from Carter through Clinton; when enough birds couldn't sortie: "I've talked to them Son. I've spoken with them. Carter was the nicest man I ever spoke to, and Clinton had genuine concern. I know something about Presidents. And I don't trust this son-of-a-bitch. Please don't join up, at least not while that punk-ass little prick is President. If something happens before he manages to start a war in the middle east that will drag on forever and kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis, then we'll talk about this again. But don't serve under this guy, he isn't worth it, and he won't do anything worthwhile. He will get you killed."


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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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1. Wow
That was a very powerful read.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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2. Nominated!
I'm printing this one out
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fortress Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:13 AM
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3. kicked and kicked
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:14 AM
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4. Great Post!
Why didn't more people, including myself, see Bush for what he was before 9/11.

Pure and simple..He rode in on his daddy's coattails...His daddy that won the Gulf War and drove Saddam out of Kuwait...a war that was 'popular' yet extremely sanitized...The majority of people are creatures of habit..anything familiar is good...much like the common house dog...I guess most of us haven't completely gotten rid of that animalistic trait at this point in our evolution, I mean Intelligent Design.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:40 AM
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8. If Bush*
were the spawn of 'Intelligent Design' we would not be in this mess.

That alone proves 'Intelligent Design' fails as a theory.

My research is completed.

180
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:23 AM
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5. I am so afraid about the future of the military
after this jackass is done, no one will join the armed forces. What was once a noble and honorable profession is now seen as dangerous and foolish. Who knows what pissing contest your CiC will get into.

Very scared.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:37 AM
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6. a liberal that delights in the mess. so sad
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:37 AM by seabeyond
how about liberal that saw thru bush lies, as did this poster, and was sickened by the thought of innocents being murder as this poster

why oh why must the liberal be painted as otherwise. this woman did not have an agenda to attack liberal, yet there it was, because from within that is how she sees the liberal. this is the conditioning from the right, that is in the essence of who this woman is.

this is what the democrat party battles with

i too am sickened by what has happened to a country i love and use to not be ashamed of. i too am sickened by our soldiers being abused. i too am sickened to what we have done to a whole nation of innocence.

only....... i recognized this before that vote in 2000. just means i was quicker on the ball
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:37 AM
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7. Wow!
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:41 AM
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9. Great and kicked.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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10. I'd say that sums up bush** nicely.
"punk-ass little prick." Yep, suits him to a tee.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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11. Bookmarked & nominated!
Wow what a letter. :wow:

Sending thank you to the Mother and Father in this letter. :toast:

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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:07 AM
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12. That brought tears to this former Marines eyes. I spent some time in
a missle battalion. 3rd LAAM battalion out of Cherry Point. I felt the exact same way that this father did about what Bu$h would do and has done to misuse our military. It is so sad.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:12 AM
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13. Thank goodness his father got through to him
This is a terrific letter. This young man's father sounds like he's got Junior's number and has had it since at least 2001. :patriot:

I wish we had had the internet resources we have today to get the word out before the election in 2000. Those of us in Texas who knew this "punk-ass little prick" as governor and warned everyone we could to NOT help elect him president in 2000, would've done anything for the resources we have today. It's those very same resources that are helping to make Cindy's protest in Crawford such a success. :applause:
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:18 AM
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14. Double WOW!!
And Kick!

This is great!
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:50 AM
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15. This old Vietnam Viet knows how hard it is
to talk a young man out of this kind of decision. My hat is off to his mom and dad for getting through to him and convincing him to actually change his mind. I know from my own experiences what it is like to be thrown into an illegal and immoral war. If their son had enlisted and survived his choice would have haunted him for years to come.

He summed Bush up perfectly as a "punk-ass little prick". He is also a deserter and the worse kind of coward. Afraid to talk with the grieving mother of a soldier who died for his lies.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:57 AM
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16. Well said.
You're in good company these days, as many Vets like yourself had to live through the OTHER senseless war, and hate this one, as well.

:kick::kick::kick:
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diddlysquat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:24 AM
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17. Thanks. Very powerful!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:37 PM
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18. Exactly what we told our son about joining the guard
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:40 PM
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19. That's damned powerful stuff.
So glad for those parents that it was effective.
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Doo_Revolution Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:49 PM
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20. I wonder if they'll finally put this out on every bench?
Its time to wake everyone up, to the truth and cut through the lies.

http://www.downingstreetmemos.com/

A rich man's war, a rich man's lies
Nothing to chance, thats who all dies
Freedom for who,
Not for me not for you
It finally came down to the price
And the final sacrafice
All to protect the oil...
For another country's soil
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