"They say there's going to be a terrorist attack by september 19th"

[Terran1212]

These words were spoken by my sister, who works for homeland security (as intern) in atlanta. A few of you may've seen my posts (I haven't been here long). I posted my day as a roleplayer there about a month ago. Some of you may remember.

I don't know how serious this is or any real details-- but I do think the people deserve to know.

Take of it what you will.

[ibegurpard]

1. Thanks

That was very helpful.
:eyes:

[leftofthedial]

2. new product rollout

what's the new product this time?

martial law? concentration camps? death squads? disappearances?

[Stephanie]

34. new product = IRAN

[arcane1]

46. new and improved product = NUKE Iran

I've been in "expect something big anytime now" mode ever since the monkey went back to his zoo. Of course, I know it won't be in August, from a marketing perspective

[Texasgal]

3. I'll take that as a bunch

bullshit chatter, seem slike when Bush's numbers are tanking, we just news of a new TERRAH attack....ugggg.

[still_one]

28. i agree with you

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. That's because you never market new products in August.. that's

vacation time.

[rfranklin]

5. Dems should start trumpeting now, "Republicans are unable...

to protect you from terrorism. Bush said he would keep us secure but he is incompetent." Et cetera.

Because unless you frame the issue beforehand, the Republicans will use any terrorist episode to attack the Democrats and further the right wing agenda.

[bear425]

6. Oh, it will be just in time to derail the anti-war march on DC.

How convenient.

[lady lib]

7. Please get more details from your sister ASAP

and post them. Thank you!

[titoresque]

11. maybe we "need" a "terrorist" attack

here again so that we can spread more freedom and democracy in Iran near their oil sites?

[BeHereNow]

24. Welcome to DU- You nailed it-

Can't really justify Cheney's plan to use
tactical nukes in a pre-emptive strike on Iran
without a catalyst, now can they?
Innocent Americans are going to suffer/die
so that the neocons can attack Iran and strip
us of ALL of our Constitutional rights...
MIHOP
MIHOP
MIHOP.
BHN

[dogday]

8. September 19th past events

1928: Walt Disney's 'Steamboat Willie', with Mickey Mouse, shown for the first time

1989: Vietnamese troops withdraw from Cambodia


1991: UN allows Iraq to begin selling oil again, after the Gulf War ban



Interesting.....

[still_one]

23. damn, I didn't know that it was the aniversary of Steamboat willie

that has got to be it

[pointblank]

36. Well on Septmeber 11th...

1847 this happened:



Stephen Foster's first hit


"Oh! Susanna," by Stephen Foster, is performed for the first time. The song, which became Foster's first big hit, was played at a concert in a Pittsburgh saloon and soon became a standard for minstrel troupes. Foster wrote several other classic popular songs, including "Old Folks at Home" and "Beautiful Dreamer."


Coincidence? I think not.


http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/tdih.jsp?month=10272961&day=10272976&cat=10272944

[mod mom]

9. Certainly they would want to have one to prevent the Sept 24 weekend in DC

[lady lib]

12. OMG, you're right. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

31. That would certainly do the trick. And a 9/11 anniversary would be too

soon, huh?

[katinmn]

10. Hmm. Just after the Pentagon's 9/11 hoedown and before the

9/24 mega protest. Just hmmm.

[uppityperson]

45. That's what the 9/11 march is for

to register the faithful and hand out information, duct tape and plastic in preparation. And I thought it was just to Celebrate Freedom (tm). Now I understand the deeper nefarious reason to party to country western music on 9/11.

[Garbo 2004]

13. Is her info related to that in today's NYT article?

WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 - A group of F.B.I. counterterrorism analysts warned this week of possible terrorist attacks in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago around Sept. 11, but officials cautioned on Thursday that they were skeptical about the seriousness of the threat.

The warning grew out of intelligence developed from an overseas source indicating that terrorists might seek to steal fuel tanker trucks in order to inflict "mass casualties" by staging an anniversary attack, officials said.

The information led F.B.I. joint terrorism task forces in Los Angeles and Newark to alert other government and law enforcement officials privately this week about the threat, law enforcement officials said. Several government officials in Washington who were briefed on the threat said it was described as credible and specific enough to warrant attention.

But other law enforcement officials in Washington and New York said that while they were aware of the warnings and were concerned about the Sept. 11 anniversary, they remained somewhat skeptical about the latest threat. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/national/nationalspecial3/12terrorr.html?ei=5065&en=12a3c4413593dcc4&ex=1124510400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

[Journeyman]

22. No, I think this bit of poppycock was put in the news cycle. . .

to deter wildcat trucker demonstrations against high fuel costs, such as occured in Florida the other day. Those sort of spontaneous demonstrations have a tremendous potential to cause massive traffic jams and garner rapid media attention, all for an issue that impacts every American's daily lives: the high price of fuel. The last thing the Oil Barons in Washington want is people getting galvanized against the one issue they claimed they'd be able to handle simply by "jaw boning" the Arabs.

[uppityperson]

14. OMG!!!! This is HUGH!!!11 Thanks for your concern

Thank you for your concern, but such a thing could happen anytime and I am not going to worry about sa non-specific "boo", fretting anymore than I already do. Now off to check the news for yhe latest on anti-war news.

[katinmn]

27. MIHOP?

:scared:

[earth mom]

15. How about those nuclear training exercises on Aug 17th

Does your sis know anything about them?

Does she know anything about the general area of where the attack or attacks will be?

I read somewhere something about attacks on 7 U.S. cities...

:tinfoilhat:

[Terran1212]

38. I intend to ask

If I can

[GoBlue]

16. Ah the ever mysterious 'they' again

Were you good a roleplaying?

[Stand and Fight]

17. Bullshit. That's what any sane person will "take of it."

Go market this "sky is falling" nonsense somewhere else.

[The Straight Story]

18. It makes me wonder about mgt faking things (office tinfoil)

They get a guy secretly on ice for terrorism. Then slip out a rumor from office X that they hear an attack is planned. They act like they are working their butts of then announce they captured a 'terrorist'.

Local office funding goes up, they get some awards, promotions, et al.Heck the guy could have been a good source whom they want to protect, so they publically arrest him and charge him and then he goes into witness protection while others think he is in jail :)

HMMMMMM....

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. There is an *exercise* slated for Sept 17

and we have heard the rumors

So Iran and Martial Law, we cannot have more sheehans going roudn gettign the people rattled

[Terran1212]

20. Follow up

I try to also get my sister not to lose her job, to be fair. And not to get arrested.


I didn't ask more questions because I really didn't want to talk to her about it.

Interesteing coinciding news:
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20050811%2F2327383866.htm&sc=1110&photoid=20050709NYSC101&ewp=ewp_news_0805fbi_warning&floc=NW_1-T
"LOS ANGELES (AP) - The FBI has warned police that al-Qaida cells might use fuel trucks as weapons to attack Los Angeles, New York and Chicago, but officials stressed Thursday the warning was based on uncorroborated intelligence.
"

[still_one]

21. They MSM already reported to watch out for fuel tankers

it is too vauge to mean anything

If they "KNOW" there is going to be a terrorist attack by september 19th, WHAT DOES THAT SAY?

Are they doing there job?

Do they have something specific?

Or is this just another "orange" color alert that they used to have before homeland security got rid of it

I suspect that this is a distraction to boost their unfavorable poll numbers.

This is what they did during the campaign against Kerry. Remember right before the Democratic convention we went to a high terror alert? Remember right after Kerry's acceptance speech they release how they had captured a high ranking al queada in Pakistan, which not only blew the cover of an operation, but was three months before

[Terran1212]

25. I intend to ask her more later, but there's circumstances

I kind of don't want to be arrested (understandable), so I'm not doing this at my house.

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Heard that elsewhere

They're also touting the fuel-trucks-might-be-used (Chicago being one of the city's). Then they explain how it all sounds fishy.

[still_one]

30. hey, why aren't they securing the fuel trucks then?

I think this is a distraction from the bad press they are getting

Remember what Hitler and Stalin did?

No difference

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. There are a whole lot of "why aren't they" on this one

The news is reporting that authorities say it is not a credible source. So, why are they putting it out there?

Agreed...distraction. It's a slow news month in August and we have to keep reminding people as we approach another anniversary of Sept. 11th. Wouldn't want it to sneak up on anyone. BOO!

[Rich Hunt]

32. yeah, I heard about the "fuel truck" thing

I still think it's a good idea to be cautious. Not hysterical, mind you, but cautious.

[Norquist Nemesis]

37. It sounds bogus to me

Are they suggesting a fully-topped out fuel tank will be hi-jacked and "blown up" in rush hour traffic or something?

First of all, it seems unlikely that authorities wouldn't be on a hi-jacked truck within minutes. The communication systems truckers have would find that rig in a flash. And how, where, would it be "blown up".

Ah well. Maybe al Qaeda managed to acquire a hazardous license from the corrupt GOP here in Illinois and they've been working on this for that last three years.

It's possible, I suppose. And yes, we SHOULD all be alert. But this is from a source that is not credible or confirmed, according to the news reports. So, what they're saying is...worry about it, but don't worry about it because we don't know but wanted to remind you to worry about it. Carry on.

[still_one]

42. yes, but we should be aware regardless

[sniffa]

29. but that's my birthday

x(

[YOY]

39. Sept. 11th is mine

Now I can't celebrate "too loudly" or I might just be "unamerican."

F***ing neotard chicken littles...

[Rainscents]

35. My gut feeling, it will be sometime in Sept, something will take place

whatever that might be, it is not going to good.

[Terran1212]

40. My experience working there...

When I was a roleplayer was that they don't make things up. Sure, dubya can, but...

[still_one]

43. really, then how come Tom Ridge indicated after he resigned

from "Homeland Security", there were times that the alert levels were less than honest?

I believe it was from a USA today interview he did

[Terran1212]

44. Remember, I only have experience with one agency in atlanta

I'm sure higher-ups and decision makers are avid authors of fiction..but as far as I know these people just carry out orders and surveillance.

[still_one]

55. and I am not trying to dis the people on the front lines

remember it was those people who uncovered 9/11 attacks, months before

[dbeach]

41. where is osama bin laden??

terrist atackks

trucks exploding
geneerals gettin fired

dickei nuclear luv-in with Iran

nuke training drills

HURRICAINE IRENE

BUT

Where in all of CREATION is WALDO???

all those tax dollars on 3 wars.

Afi
Iraq
GWOT
and sauron cheny positioning for yet a 4th war in Iran

But waldo bin laden is chillin with the villins in WHERE???

[wli]

47. sounds like time to run

All this stuff only means MIHOP, followed by martial law, death squads, and dumping Democrats in concentration camps.

[Eloriel]

48. Hmmm. Here are some links that may have something to do w/this

Plans for August 17th -- Terrorist Drill -- Gen. Byrnes, Tell us More!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4320805

Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1692645
Link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm

General Kevin Byrnes: Fired for arguing with the Rumsfeld neo-con clique
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4307795

Removed from Duty
(see post #10 and this link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4307593#4307648
and: General Kevin Byrnes: Fired for arguing with the Rumsfeld neo-con clique
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4307795

Myers: Possibility of third Iraq tours for active-duty troops 'always out there'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1690309
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=30855




also see: How to tell if the next attack on US soil is MIHOP (Lerkfish)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1957520

[shanti]

49. did you not read this story?

http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.shows...

From the Northern Command website

Press Release
Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario
Posted Jun 29, 2005 at 1:00:PM MDT


FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

snip-

remember the last time we had a drill???

[dbeach]

50. the eagle

Koran{9:11}

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;and there was peace"

Notice the verse number??

[dbeach]

59. sorry

quote is fake shouda known better..than listen to that guy

[Jara sang]

51. roleplayer???

dp you have a link to that thread, I would like to read it.

[Terran1212]

52. I just reposted it

There you go

[Terran1212]

53. small kick

...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

54. did they pick up terrorist "chatter"? or just "banter?"

?

[darkism]

57. "So I'm trying those whitening strips but they're just not working!" n/t

[shance]

56. Well, of course! This must be why we aren't seeing much of Dick Cheney.

He and Scooter Libby hard at work??

[McCamy Taylor]

58. Prediction: it will be the strategic oil reserve to keep oil price high

for *'s oil business buddies but no loss of life so poll numbers wont go down. This will help Congress pass more anti-energy legislation and open up more coastline for environmentally unfriendly drilling. No sources, just a hunch. Anyone who was planning a vacation to view the strategic oil reserves, stay away.

Some kind of weak ass nuclear bomb that the administration will pretend was pieced together by terrorists from Iranium nuclear materials would be just the ticket.

[proud2BlibKansan]

60. Makes sense

It sure would take our minds off of the rising price of gas.