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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:41 PM
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Regarding gas prices: Since when is $6 [extra per] wk a financial hit?
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:49 PM by Used and Abused
No, these are not my thoughts. This question is just another GLARING example of ignorance on the Repub side.

$6 per week is the average increased gasoline cost per car owner in the last year.

While no one likes it, to portray it as a financial hit is more than an exaggeration.

My God, if we each have to drink 2 less beers a week at the pub in order to fill the tank ... we're just all gonna die!



Link to post: http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=&action=m&board=37138456&tid=apgaspricesapaolpoll&sid=37138456&mid=3670&thr=3670&cur=3670&dir=d
Link to article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050812/ap_on_bi_ge/gas_prices_ap_aol_poll
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:42 PM
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1. Link?
Just which Repub said this?
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 PM
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6. sorry about that... its here
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:45 PM
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2. dumb fuck
add on the cost of transporting every product you buy in the store, the cost of producing your electricty, pumping your water, running mass transit, etc, etc
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 PM
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7. Well said! Plus, there is the psychological impact
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:49 PM
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8. and if it were a democratic president, then would it still be no big deal
:eyes:
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:46 PM
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3. Yeah obviously they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck. Most
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 PM by kikiek
likely the hit will be quality of food on the dinner table. Had an oil change and fill up today and spent 100 bucks.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:46 PM
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4. Tell that to all the people who work at WalMart
Or who are working two or three part time jobs and have to drive from one job to another.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 PM
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5. I guess they're too stupid to realize
the cost of everything you buy eventually goes up.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 PM
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9. I don't know where he got his numbers but,
The cost of 20 gallons of gas went up $4.60 just this week where I live.

I live in Northern New York, gas went from $2.43 on Monday to $2.66 today. Two days to go in this week.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 PM
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10. Delta airlines will probably fold, retailers are holding back on restockin
...restocking to save transport costs.

you name, it EFFECTS things.

we need to wean ourselves off fossil fuels, for a variety of reasons, but mainly so that halliburton will be left holding a very expensive bag.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:53 PM
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12. Pity our LEADERS of the last 25 straight years didn't care.
Neither did precious clinton... Just ask about the 55mph speed limit and why it was started in the first place...
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:58 PM
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16. i'm lost... why was it started?
My guess was to collect money for tickets?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 PM
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21. the "original" oil crisis in the 70s.
when we supposedly had hit the barrier and could never find new oil. If you weren't born yet, it may not mean that much to you.
But we squandered an opportunity to shift our reliance to something more sane. Instead, we just went looking for more of the same.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:28 PM
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28. Remember the gasahol pumps?
There really were pumps that had gasoline with ethyl alcohol added. You would have thought that the practice would have lasted, but the oil companies do not want to sell anything with alcohol, when the money was in pushing the practice into non-existance.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:06 PM
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31. yup. I"m 46, so have clear memories of that...
almost, almost, we were at a point to turn away from oil.
Then the oil companies realized it and pulled in all their favors.

They aren't the largest lobbyists for nuttin.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:53 AM
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35. I remember everyone trying to buy a honda or toyota but gas never hit
even a buck a gallon 72-73...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:53 PM
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11. Exactly! Another $20 onto the bill means one less DVD.
So much the better; it's time to meet people and stop isolating ourselves.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:56 AM
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37. what do you guyz got ? 10 gallon gas tanks??
San Francisco today - gas is $3.09 per gallon
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:54 PM
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13. Apparently this person doesn't pay a heating bill, either.
And come this winter, with prices continuing to rise...well, even if they stabilize where they are now, this will amount to far more than just a measly $6 a week increase for consumers.
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:55 PM
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14. Tell that to the truckers
who have to foot the bill for a couple hundred gallons at each fill-up.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 PM
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15. If it is 6 a week
they either have a small tank in their car or they don't fill up weekly.
Granted I have avoided driving as much as possible this summer and only filled up yesterday. Last fill up was July 2nd. July cost me 24.00 for 15 gallons, yesterday cost me 38.00 for 13 gals. I will keep conserving.
SO drives a tractor trailer and the prices there are scary. In May cost him 220 to fill up and last week cost him 550 before this last jump in prices. He hauls food so the higher food prices are already here and going to keep going up. I don't know how the independent truckers will survive.



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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:31 PM
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30. A $300 loan was good enough reason to vote Bu$h
But now an extra $312 a year out of your pocket is no big deal.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:24 AM
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32. I can't prove it but I believe
the so called tax cut/rebate * gave cost most people more in energy cost alone the first year he was in. I also decided when he and the oil companies took over I was spending as little as possible on oil products. And I already worked hard at conserving and giving oil as little money as I could before *.






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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:33 PM
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48. You read my mind. n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:58 PM
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17. Wanna reword the title maybe?
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:59 PM by McCamy Taylor
Like "Ivory Tower GOP thinks extra $6/wk for Gas No Big Deal"
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:22 PM
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24.  ...................."Says let them eat cake!" nt
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:01 PM
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18. Just remember how their boxers were in a bunch
when gas "might have reached $1.50 a gallon under an Al Gore Presidency" - circa 2000 . . .
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:01 PM
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19. What a crock
Yeah, the middle class in their nice subburbs within 15 miles of their job aren't going to be affected too much by the price of gas.

But out here in America, people routinely drive 60 miles into Columbus for a job that pays 10 bucks an hour. That's 600 miles/week.

Now if the average Joe in his late model beater (that was me for many years) gets 25 miles/gallon, Thats 24 gallons of gas/week.

At .96 that's $23.04/week for gas. That's about what I was paying when I started commuting to Columbus.

At 1.25 - $30
At 1.75 - $42
At 2.50 - $60 every week for gas.

And no, they can't just move to Columbus. My house was $29,000 when I bought it. There is just no way I could swing a house payment in Columbus - or rent either. Rent out here for a 2br apt is around 300-350. It is at least 600 for the same SF in Columbus.
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 PM
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20. wow your housing seems to be way more affordable
What I would have given to get a 2bdrm for 300!!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:09 PM
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22. Welcome to Appalachia.
You can still pay 150K for a house out here if you want too, but there are plenty of bargains to be found - especially if you are willing to tackle a fixer-upper.

There are houses in the not so nice portions of Zanesville that go for 20K.

In the small town I live in 15 miles south of the store, there is an abandoned house on every block. 40K will get you a decent sized house in decent condition.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:23 PM
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26. A 2-BR for $1200 would be nice here in LA
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:20 PM
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23. GOPorker comments like this one help me to understand...
what happens in revolutions when the sneering plutocrats ("let them eat cake") are suddenly overthrown and dragged before people's courts.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:22 PM
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25. Don't forget the rising trade deficit
One thing is for sure. The nation cannot borrow its way to prosperity.
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ScamUSA.Com Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:23 PM
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27. LOL, by that logic people only use $6/week in gas, because
the gas prices have practically doubled
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:30 PM
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29. Can they connect the dots to rising prices for food, water
esencials? Heck now even airplane tickets.

nope they can't
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katamaran Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:40 AM
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33. Gas here has gone up 40 cents since TUESDAY
Gas here has gone up 40 cents since TUESDAY. Ten cents a day. So that adds up to $6 extra a week for me. That $6 is a MEAL for christsakes.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:43 AM
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34. Grasping at straws - it's pathetic coming from the free-trade morons
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 12:44 AM by Mr_Spock
There is no shame over there in Satan's lair. Sick idiots over there are simply making people hate them even more - so what else is new - the Repuke morons have done this at least 3 times inmy lifetime. They can't handle power because they are insanely childish.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:54 AM
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36. When you live unemployment check to unemployment check
It makes a very big difference.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:13 AM
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38. Wait until it is
home heating oil time. sigh There are going to be a lot of people cold this winter.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:17 AM
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39. BULLSHIT.. our monthly gasoline cost went from $165 to $341
My husband had no choice..He has to get to work.. and his is not that long of a commute, but he needs his small fuel-efficient truck for jobsite inspections while he's AT work.. He cannot just "not drive" or "drive less"..

We are luckier than most because he gets a $500 a month car allowance and we have no car payment to eat it up.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:26 AM
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40. i am amazed at the ignorance of the rich
to millions, who are homeless, every penny is critical.

amazing ignorance in the GOP party.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:32 AM
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43. The "lost" $176 in our budget, is money we no longer have to
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 12:33 AM by SoCalDem
use as WE see fit.. It's going into our gastank..Families like ours now have less to spend:

at restaurants
at the mall
at the grocery store
for back-to-school items
for Christmas presents
for vacations & holiday travel
for movies
for new cars
for toys..adult and children

Couple that extra expense with the ever-increasing chunk needed for health insurance (if we're lucky enough to even get it) and the increasing food prices due to higher gasoline costs, and you have a building tsunami of financial destruction...aimed right at the middle class and anyone below
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:26 AM
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41. Let's Do Some Real Math
$6 a week huh? OK...now look at all those trucks driving past that station...it's costing them at least $12 or more a week to keep his brewskis flowing. Oh, and let's not forget the $6 a week it'll cost everyone else who does business to cover their added costs. Pretty soon you start getting into real money.

Hopefully that big lie of the "party of fiscal responsibility" is dead once and for all...
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:27 AM
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42. Did they factor in the increase
In groceries? So every item you buy, increases by 30 cents or more.

A gallon of milk is no longer 2.99.. it's 3.29 to off set the cost of gas it cost to move the product. ALL products!

What about the heating bill.. which is swiftly approaching.
Higher interest rates
Soaring Mortgages
Increased state tax
The decline of the middle class
all new jobs created, were service jobs.
Maybe, Just maybe the ignorant will finally understand it all, when they have to ask. "Would you like to super-size that?"
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:36 AM
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44. There as a reporter on CNN today
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 12:40 AM by Incitatus
who made a point of explaining how Gatorade was still cheaper than gas. :eyes:

Edit - He was calculating the cost of several small bottles purchased as a gas station.
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CrazyForKucinich Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:45 AM
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45. Gas is up 70 cents here from this time last year
Most people fill up once a week with a 20 gallon tank or so...that's not $6 more. That's $14 more a week than last year(which was already expensive). let's say these prices hold(although they're bound to go up) for an entire year. That means you're paying $728 more for gas than you did last year. You can do a lot of stuff with $728. Basically it's not an increase at the pump for whatever reasons...it is more like a tax when you think of it in a yearly term and it is around one thousand dollars. Just put that number next to your property tax and your income tax for it's almost as high. Now if you have a 20,000 dollar job or even 30,000 dollar job paying an extra 1,000 dollars on top of last years yearly figure at this time of $1.80/gallon which equals $36/wk X 52 weeks = $1872 + $728 increase and amazingly on the dot we have $2600 of your hard earner money spent on gas a year at the current rate. What's the average income in the USA? 26,000 or so? Well that's 10%!!!

You know add in insurance and car repairs and it's amazing that anyone is even driving at all.

This economy will crumble if gas hits $3 $3.50 because prices to everything we buy are going to go up a lot as well. This is not sustainable. The upper class and maybe even some of the middle class may make it through but I'd say a majority of the people will suffer greatly if this gets any worse. $14 more dollars a week than last year does make a difference.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:20 PM
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46. Tell that to my millwork guy Jack...
who lives in South Carolina, works in Fayetteville, and burns three tanks of gas a week.

Tell that to the soldiers who are stationed at Fort Drum but live in Lowville or Gouveneur. Thirty miles one way.

Tell that to cabdrivers who have to buy their own fuel.

Tell that to all the people who live in Fayetteville but have to work in Raleigh to hold a job that pays more than $10 per hour. A lot of those people are soldiers' wives who hold MBAs and other advanced degrees, but don't want to work at the place most of the MBA-holding dependent wives work: Waffle House! (Seriously.)

You get the idea. There are a lot of people who are holding down decent jobs but spending most of their disposable income on fuel.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:30 PM
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47. It's enough to wipe out those Bush tax cuts that got him so many votes
Plus, for those who will have to buy fuel oil next month, there will be a huge increase from last year that will cost people hundreds of dollars more on their heating bills this winter, and I expect natural gas to go up as well.
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