Cindy's own home newspaper excoriates her

[ailsagirl]

Mother already met Bush
Catherine Moy
August 12, 2005

(boldface text is mine)

Cindy Sheehan's incessant Bush-hating landed her on the Web site of Al-Jazeera, a propaganda arm for Muslim terrorists, and splintered her family, who mourn the loss of her son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, who died last year in Iraq. Mrs. Sheehan is now a tool of America-haters. She has joined the family of radical Democrats in defiance of her son's blood relations.

http://www.thereporter.com/search/ci_2936053

I emailed the author and gave her a piece of mind.
[e-mail]

:grr: :mad:

But let me hasten to add that Vacaville is mostly repug. :puke:

[ailsagirl]

1. kick

[Jack Rabbit]

2. This is just more right wing noise

It repeats many of the same talking points that have already been refuted.

[ailsagirl]

6. I was (a little) surprised that her hometown was so hard on her

but I guess I shouldn't be, given their redness.

But it makes ME see red when I read stuff like this.
:grr:

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Vacaville isn't terribly red

I live between Vacaville and Sacramento in the same congressional district as Mrs. Sheehan. We are represented in Congress by Mike Thompson, who opposed the invasion.

[ailsagirl]

24. I posted this elsewhere but in terms of who people in Solano

County supported financially for the 2004 election, it
went like this:

In Solano County, 37% contributed to the Dems, 61% to the
repugs. Compare that to, say, San Francisco County in which
83% were for the Dems, 17% the repugs.

Here's the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x13542

[Jack Rabbit]

38. Also

The Reporter did take issue with Matt Drudge's report earlier this week. Drudge quoted the Reporter's story about Mrs. Sheehan's meeting with Mr. Bush last year out of context, as this article from MediaMatters points out:

Sheehan was not referring to her meeting with Bush as "the gift the president gave us." She was actually referring to the trip to Seattle, as Reporter staff writer Tom Hall noted in an August 9 article responding to Drudge: "Sheehan also said the trip to Seattle helped connect her family to others that had lost a son or daughter in Iraq. Sheehan said sharing their story with those families was rewarding, as was the time she got to spend with her own family. 'That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' she said in the story. Drudge included that quote in his Monday morning report, but didn't explain that it referred to sharing time with her family, not the president."

Reporter editor Diane Barney also responded to Drudge in an August 9 column, in which she said that Sheehan's positions on Bush and the war have not changed since June 2004. "We don't think there has been a dramatic turnaround. Clearly, Cindy Sheehan's outrage was festering even then," Barney wrote. "In ensuing months, she has grown more focused, more determined, more aggressive. ... We invite readers to revisit the story -- in context -- on our Web site and decide for themselves." An August 8 Editor & Publisher article quoted Barney further clarifying the paper's position: "It's important that readers see the full context of the story, instead of just selected portions. We stand by the story as an accurate reflection of the Sheehan's take on the meeting at the time it was published."

[kbm8795]

36. It's not so much her hometown

but another wingnut plant as a columnist. They launched a culture war. . .this is one of the weapons they use.

And it is another reason why we should ALWAYS send LTTE...and if something is offensive enough, demand the right to an op-ed column. These people attend training seminars to write this nonsense. We need to be a lot more organized and a lot more competent in airing our own views.

[Seabiscuit]

76. If we knew who owned the paper it probably wouldn't be any surprise.

[nookiemonster]

3. Well, ya know it was only a matter of time

before they made the Cindy / helping-the-terrorist connection.

:sarcasm:

Man, these fuckers are really going to burn.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. in defiance of her son's blood relations? As if they are more closely

related to him than SHE is?!

[prodigal_green]

9. Please!

mothers are just birthing vehicles. Everybody knows that the father's alienated cousins have a stronger claim on the boy.

[ailsagirl]

25. :=)

[kbm8795]

Exactly. . .

she quotes a letter that she herself can't even verify as real.

Shows me that her journalistic skills aren't any better than what she claims Al-Jazeera's are.

[OneTwentyoNine]

5. This whole matter lays to rest that BS "Support our Troops" nonsense..

That crap has been debunked daily for the last week. As anyone can see its NEVER been about the troops,its all about BUSH and his failed policy's. The troops are just the fodder to keep the Iraq invasion lie alive and running.

[FreedomAngel82]

75. What they do

is they use the troops for Bush to hide behind. If Bush does something you don't like and you speak out all they have to say is: "You are anti-American and you don't support the troops!" It's really lame and pathetic.

[Just Me]

7. Everyone protecting this administration's betrayal and exploitation,...

,...of the American people is anti-American ---> hates America ---> because they are defending those who destroy OUR democracy in exchange for profit and power. In other words, they are defending/advancing tyranny in America.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Here's the email addy for LTTEs

[e-mail].

[ailsagirl]

11. Good point-- wonder if it would be printed, though...

Maybe I will write a LTTE!!

ailsa

[Junkdrawer]

12. I was about to post the same suggestion....

There are a slew of new threads asking us to waste our time emailing these slugs about the "We don't care" rally.

Write letters to the editor instead. Why? because

The authors of the lies Don't Care!

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. More crap from her hometown paper

Joining military includes a price
Reporter Editor:

About a recent commentary, Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville writes that a conscientious objector is "a brave, honorable and patriotic American," ("Reaching for peace: Vacaville woman continues her anti-war campaign," Forum, The Reporter, Aug. 7). Since when does an adult who signs a contract to join the military, then backs out when he's asked to fulfill his duties, become brave, honorable or patriotic?

I consider him someone who wanted a paycheck and money toward a college education without having to endure any of the responsibilities of being a U.S. soldier.

Unfortunately, Mrs. Sheehan must have forgotten that the men and women who comprise our military are there voluntarily. No one has come to their homes and taken them in the middle of the night. These men and women have signed contracts, and if they read the paperwork before signing it they understand the responsibilities

Advertisement
The Air Center

and potential dangers of being in the military.

Mrs. Sheehan also writes that she is unwilling to give up her liberties and security. No one is asking her to, but these things are not, as she stated, "birth rights." They have been fought for since our great country was founded. If women and men, such as her son, had not chosen to fight for our country, she wouldn't have the freedom to travel across the United States spreading her anti-war, anti-Bush and anti-American tirades

http://www.thereporter.com/letters/ci_2940865

[ailsagirl]

15. CRAP is right. I believe there's an air force base nearby now that

I think of it (Travis AFB). There's also a "correctional facility" that houses Charles Manson.

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. "...these things are not, as she stated, "birth rights.""

Well, yes, they are. And if we keep fighting for these rights it is because people, both foreign and native, keep trying to take these rights from us. Someone should look in the mirror and see who is trying to diminish who's first amendment rights here.

[tabasco]

23. That shows you exactly the right-wing opinion of soldiers.

THEY'RE EXPENDABLE!

I am an infantry vet and these people make me ill.

They really don't give a damn.

[GreenPartyVoter]

44. Thank you for both your service and your savvy.

[dansolo]

87. Thomas Jefferson wouldn't agree with this lady

It pisses me off how people disregard our own history. Thomas Jefferson penned the beautifully poetic Declaration of Independance, which is the founding document of our country. In it are these words:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

It sure sounds to me that Jefferson was saying that they are "birth rights."

[yorkiemommie1]

13. the repugs will make life miserable for her

when she gets back home. if she can stand up to * , she can stand up to them.

[ailsagirl]

18. Their relentless pressure and absolute lack of conscience is a

formidible force. What with the grieving she's undergoing, I'm
hoping she can stand up to it. Their tactics are absolutely brutal.

But I know she's a strong person-- she'll make it.

[Generic Other]

14. oooh Al Jaz...

sickos!

[CatholicEdHead]

26. They probably got it off the news wires

like everyone else.

[kbm8795]

16. Oh puh-leeeeeze. . .

Could this woman be any more filled with propaganda cliches? She's got a lot of room writing about Al-Jazeera being a "propaganda" arm. . .when she throws these cliches around, she sounds like she'd be more comfortable working for their publications than ours.

Just where did she get the idea that she had anything original to say?

[ailsagirl]

21. It's not original-- but it's damaging. If they refuse to support Cindy,

I wish they'd just leave her the hell alone.

[kbm8795]

41. Don't let it eat at you too much.

It isn't a "they"...it's a "she." And a wingnut has no loyalties except to the Party and the cause.

Flood the paper with letters trashing the columnist as both incompetent and hardly qualified to state a clear opinion without peppering her work with right wing "politically correct" cliches.
Ask the editor what makes her writing style any different than the propaganda she claims Al-Jazeera participates in...or send her a letter and suggest she search for employment with an organization that recites culture war cliches like a memorized tape recorder. The public deserves better in any kind of commentary.

[ailsagirl]

45. Thanks, kbm8795-- good suggestions!!

[Judi Lynn]

19. Very spiteful, venomous article. Hate's all the right-wing has. n/t

[Al-CIAda]

20. Its not Fascism when WE do it!

THE PROJECT FOR THE OLD AMERICAN CENTURY

  The Project for the OLD American Century is a grass-roots organization that strives to protect and strengthen democracy primarily by disseminating unreported and underreported news stories from a perspective untainted by political or corporate sponsorship. 

  The Project was founded in 2002 in response to a rigged election, reduced civil liberties, a hijacking of our domestic and foreign policies by the energy/defense industries, and a compliant corporate media that refused to make these problems prominent in our national consciousness.  We felt it our duty as patriots to create a web-based independent media outlet where we can not only debunk the myth of the liberal media but expose the corruption and cronyism taking place at the highest levels of government and corporate power.

  The Project for the Old American Century conducts its own research and compiles dossiers made available to the public both via the web or in print free of charge. Topics include conflicts of interest inside government agencies, specific profiles of top public officials, data acquired through the Freedom of Information Act, and much more.


http://www.oldamericancentury.org/about.html

[Darth_Kitten]

27. I wrote the bag

:puke:

Gave her a piece of my mind, and then some. :)

[ailsagirl]

73. Did you hear back?? A few of us did... see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4340339&mesg_id=4340339

[In_The_Wind]

28. Not one more drop of American blood should fall on foreign soil.

I support Mrs. Sheehan!

[Alexander]

29. My response

"Jeez, talk about propaganda. I wonder who YOU voted for last year.

I guess it's 'radical' to expect our president to tell the truth about why we are going to war. Let me guess - you probably got all indignant when Clinton lied about Lewinsky. Yet, when Bush claims Saddam had something to do with 9/11, or that he had weapons of mass destruction? Silence.

Cindy, like most Americans, is angry - and rightfully so. 1800 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis have died, all for a lie.

I guess the 55% of Americans who are now opposed to Mr. Bush are all "radical Democrats", not to mention the 60+% who want Bush to meet with Sheehan. Hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument.

It's clear this isn't about supporting the troops at all - this is about partisan hacks (like you) supporting Mr. Bush, as he lies to us and wrecks the nation. Many people supported the troops by opposing this war in the first place - a scenario that would have left us safer, and kept Casey Sheehan alive.

You love Bush, and his war? Great. There's a recruiting office not far from where you work. Quit your job and go sign up, if you're such a patriot.

Or maybe you, like the other right-wingers in power, don't mind fighting wars - as long as you or your family members don't have to get involved. Let someone else's kid die, right? You must be too important for combat."

[rodeodance]

64. partisan hacks like you---te he ---grand!!

.It's clear this isn't about supporting the troops at all - this is about partisan hacks (like you) supporting Mr. Bush, as he lies to us and wrecks the nation. Many people supported the troops by opposing this war in the first place - a scenario that would have left us safer, and kept Casey Sheehan alive.

[cal04]

30. Peace mom's son Casey known for life of quiet service to others

He was an altar boy, an Eagle Scout, a church youth group leader. That is what people remember about Casey Sheehan, the 24-year-old soldier whose death in Iraq has become a flashpoint for debate about the war since his mother began staging a peace vigil outside the president's ranch in Texas.

Among family and friends - not to mention TV pundits, Internet bloggers and newspaper columnists - opinions vary about Cindy Sheehan's demand to meet with the president to talk about why the U.S. went to war. Like others, they struggle with whether her determination to bring the war home honors or diminishes his choice to join the Army.

But those who knew the young man she so publicly mourns agree that if anyone is an appropriate face for the war's more than 1,800 U.S. deaths, it is Casey. He had a gentle but firm commitment to family, church and country, re-enlisting after the war started and volunteering for the rescue mission in which he and six others were killed last year.

The Sheehans were active members of their Roman Catholic churches, first in the Southern California community of Norwalk, and then in Vacaville, the town halfway between Sacramento and San Francisco where they moved when Casey was 14. Stefanie Fereday-Mannel, a fellow member of St. Mary's Church in Vacaville, recalls how close the family was, and how Casey shared his mother's deep faith and commitment to the church, even as a teenager. When Cindy Sheehan worked as a youth minister, Casey helped found the church's youth group and remained active even after graduating from high school. "At some point church can be not the cool thing to do, and I remember always admiring Casey for being so dedicated to church as a young person," Fereday-Mannel said. "He didn't really care what people said or thought. He had very strong values about his family and church."




http://www.timesheraldonline.com/ci_2940881

[GreenPartyVoter]

31. my LTTE

I was heartbroken for Cindy when I came across two pieces in your paper about her that show no compassion for her situation in any way. (Nancy Smith 8/13 and Catherine Moy 8/12)

So to balance that I am writing from all the way over here in Maine to tell you all that I love Cindy Sheehan. I heard her speak at a Fair here in my area and when she read the poem her daughter wrote in memory of Casey I couldn't hold back my tears.

The local women who wrote about Cindy had a lot to say about her, none of it good. But have they met her? Spent time with her? Do they know the good she has done in the world as a youth minister or how the son she lost followed in her footsteps to also do good in the world?

How can they uphold her noble son and yet excoriate one of the people most responsible for molding him into who he was? They should thank her for raising up such a wonderful young man. Then they should grieve at his passing with her. Even if they do not agree with her questions about his death (and what loving mother would not ask "Why?!") is it really necessary to trash and degrade her in this way?

[stevedeshazer]

53. Great letter, well said n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

55. Thank you. My goal was a soft rebuke. I don't want to be hareful as they

have shown themselves to be.. tempting though it is.

[Seabiscuit]

77. Yes... speaking of "tempting"...

When I get the feeling that something like 40% of Americans are as evil and hateful as the author of that piece I feel tempted to wish that somehow Al Queda could find a way to cure this country's ills by just "taking out" that 40%. Unfortunately, they'd probably destroy some nice buildings/monuments in the process.

[GreenPartyVoter]

86. Well.. I am a hypocrite. I purposely went trolling to tweak a

RWer's nose tonight. Shame on me!

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=836632#post836630

[Midlodemocrat]

32. My letter to her.

Are you kidding?

Your article in that rag of a paper you write for made me puke. How dare you excoriate the mom of a soldier who died in Iraq? How dare you question her motives? Who the hell do you think you are?

I'll tell you. You are a tool of the right wing neocons. Your pathetic flag waving "look at me, I'm a patriot because of a magnet on my car" is what has contributed to the deaths of over 30,000 INNOCENT Iraqis as well as almost 2000 Americans.

Guess what, genius? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Pull your head out of the sand and focus on what the liar in thief is doing and saying.

Cindy Sheehan is a true American hero. Until you have a blood relative, preferably your child, die for an illegal and immoral war, shut the hell up.

You are pathetic.

[BrotherBuzz]

33. Emailing that twit will do no good!

She has a regular column in an uberright wing newspaper in the next town over (my town!) and I can tell you from experience that writing her does no good.

I missed that article in the Vacaville Reporter as I've been shying away from it recently as it's filled with so much vile hatred toward Cindy in the LTTE's. Here's a sampling:


http://www.thereporter.com/letters /


Military mom insulted by actions


As a military mom, I feel I must write this letter. No one who has not lost a son or daughter can even imagine Cindy Sheehan's loss, however, that's where my empathy for her ends.

Her actions are an insult to the pride military moms and dads have for our sons and daughters serving in our all-voluntary armed forces.

In my opinion, a mother who disgraces the memory of her son or daughter in such a manner fighting a sad war within herself.

Diane Kraft, Vacaville


Servicemen, women simply cannot just walk away


The mother of Casey Sheehan, Cindy of Vacaville, apparently thinks that if you join the military and then are called on to do what your country needs of you, you do not have to go if your views differ from what our government's views are and there should be no punishment.

What about World War I? The United States was not attacked. If everyone then thought like Mrs. Sheehan and had not joined in the fight and just walked off because they did not believe in war, where do you think we would be today?

I do believe our government makes mistakes, but in time of war is not the time to protest. You have to trust the government, because it has kept this country the best in the world.

It is so easy to blame just one person and that is President George W. Bush. But the fact is he cannot do anything without approval of Congress. That is way too many people to blame when you can just pick one and pass the blame to him.

Mrs. Sheehan thinks that Kevin Benderman was "brave, honorable and patriotic American" ("Reaching for peace: Vaca woman continues her anti-war campaign," Forum, The Reporter, Aug.7) He refused to go to Iraq, but should not be punished. I guess we should just let everyone join the military and train them and give them an education to better their life for the future. If they do not want to do what the government wants in return, then that is OK.

It seems like people think their freedom of speech makes them patriotic, but that is not the case. It is people like me and our ancestors who fought for that right, because not all Americans are out for a free ride.

I feel bad that Mrs. Sheehan lost a son, but she is not helping by protesting. Just ask many of we Vietnam veterans what we thought about protesters and we will say that we hated them.

No one likes war, but the fact is we are in one. We need to show the enemy we are not going to back down. Does anyone honestly think that if we pull out that there will never be another attack like that on Sept. 11, 2001? That was before we went over there and the terrorists say they are doing what they are doing now because we are in their country and will stop when we leave. Hopefully, because we went to their front door, they will have a harder time reaching each of our front doors. They would like for us to back off so they can reach our collective front door with a lot more ease.

So, I guess anyone in our military who does not want to fight or believe in what we are doing, can all go home. There will be no punishment and they will still be a hero because they joined the military and let people think they could count on them, but did nothing in return. Real Americans join the military knowing the risk and would not want someone in their family working against them just because the did not think the same way. They need everyone behind them, even if it is their son or daughter over there, because they are the ones keeping the war over there, and making our lives a lot safer in the United States.

Barry Ringler, Vacaville


Woman's 'civil disobedience' not at all helpful


I write this letter after having held off for several months and out of frustration with The Reporter and with Cindy Sheehan. I cannot fathom how The Reporter continues to give so much coverage to a bitter woman who spews political rhetoric and falsely accuses the president of killing her son. I cannot accept her statements as true, nor can I understand how The Reporter allows her so much space to air her personal opinions, especially in such a military-minded town. Does she think this actually helps in the Global War on Terror?

I also have been asking myself several questions when I have read her commentaries or seen her quoted at rallies, meetings with the president or his advisers, or the staged "protests" over the war on terror. Where were Mrs. Sheehan or Gold Star Mothers for Peace before her son was killed in the service of his country? I don't seem to remember her anger over the war or her protests that help to demoralize my fellow brothers and sisters in arms before April 4.

The other question was how could she possibly blame the President George W. Bush, the Army or recruiters in anyway for causing her sons death? Last time I checked, the Army is strictly run on a volunteer basis, as are all the other branches. Also, if I remember correctly, her son re-enlisted voluntarily for a second tour of duty.

In her opinion pieces she also refers to a "brave, honorable, and patriotic American" who decided to leave his fellow troops by not returning to Iraq because of an apparently newfound "conscientious objector" mind-set ("Reaching for peace: Vaca woman continues her anti-war campaign," Forum, The Reporter, Aug. 7). I call these actions cowardice and dishonorable. He deserved the jail time that came with his violation of the Universal Code of Military Justice. He was not made a scapegoat, but rather he was held accountable for his wrong doings.

By rendering civil disobedience and having such a caustic spirit toward the leadership of this country, whether she likes that leadership or not, she is only causing more pain in her life and showing that she really doesn't value the sacrifice of those who have laid down their lives. Her son, Casey, was not the only one to have died and his passing was not in vain.

More people were killed by terrorism on Sept. 11, 2001, in a few short moments than have died since fighting the enemies of freedom began. Maybe Mrs. Sheehan and Gold Star Families for Peace should move their headquarters to some other location that would give them the room to lash out at those who fight so hard for freedom, say to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Cliff Jones, Travis Air Force Base

.......

This is just a sampling of the letters that appear daily with no end in sight. Sigh!

It should be pointed out that Vacaville is near a major Air Base (Travis AFB) but the main industry in town is the state prison hospital which tends to poison the well of the town's psyche, so to speak. Bad Juju, aplenty, in that town.

[kbm8795]

46. Yeah..well, someone can always write in and ask the military

guy if he thinks Rush's broadcast trashing Paul Hackett did so much good at showing how Republicans really support the troops. Since it went over Armed Services Radio, they all had the pleasure of listening to him trash one of their own.

[BrotherBuzz]

50. Do it! My post was regarding writing Catherine Moy directly

Please, Please, Please write tons of LTTE's. This republican rag, The Vacaville Reporter needs balance, and much to their credit, they actually do print opposition letters.

[rodeodance]

63. imagine is 74,000 plus DU'ers emailed her. Just imagine. but I have to

email her my thoughts.

[BrotherBuzz]

68. I'm all for it, but the point being...

I've locked horns with that $*&%^$%% in the past with little satisfation. I believe she used to receive weekly intsallments of GOP talking points in a brown paper wrapped parcel. Today, I suspect they simply email her directly.

Yes, let's flood her mailbox, but please don't forget sending LTTE directly to the newsapaper where they may see the light of day. What's more, anything sent to Catherine Moy will be used in her next hit piece and will be spun and taken out of context. Bank on it.

You know what I mean, Vern?

[Zenlitened]

34. Typical repuke tactic. Reduce all criticism of Bush's numerous failures...

... to mere "Bush-hating."

They sure do have a talent for pummeling away at the same tired old talking points, don't they?

You could fill a book with acurate, detailed descriptions of Bush's incompetence, expert commentary on the many ways he has failed America, sober analysis of the price our country will pay for years to come because of Bush's disastrous policies ... but then you'd still be a big meanie Bush-hater.

What idiots. :dunce:

[lonestarnot]

35. Poohdo WTF is that?

[stevedeshazer]

54. That jumped out at me as well.

[Cleita]

37. What dirt bags. I'm not surprised though.

Most of the central valley cities in California are hugely repug and thier newspapers are only fit to line bird cages with. I'm really getting tired of spin journalism being proferred as responsible and unbiased journalism. I don't know what to do about it though.

[Kurovski]

39. It's the stench of desperation.

people who hold on to that delusional, dishonest point of view have lost "big-time", and they know it.

[Maat]

40. I e-mailed her also.

[lonestarnot]

42. Here's some pooh do for her!

<>

<>

[Solly Mack]

43. " in defiance of her son's blood relations" What kind of warped

thinking is that? Now they should do a honor killing because she defied the family I suppose? How patriarchal of the author...sounds a lot like other groups who think women are property.

You know, the choice of words speaks poorly, very poorly, of the author.

[kbm8795]

47. LOL..yeah...ask her in an email

if she believes that the family of a husband should be given the right to make arranged marraiges,too...and if her own was dictated to her so she wouldn't be in "defiance" of the wishes of any in-laws.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

51. Hope they print my letter. I doubt it, I used profanity (gasp!) and

that will probably singe their little ears. Won't do a bit of good but it made me feel better. Here is what I wrote -

"Mrs. Sheehan is now a tool of America-haters. She has joined the family of radical Democrats in defiance of her son's blood relations. "

And you, madam, are a tool too. You are a prick. A useless, right-wing dildo that is a member of the radical Christian Taliban Republican party that is gang raping this country. Your claim to fame will forever be as another shill who has cluster fucked this country. We know what you are, the question always has been how far and deep will this bunch of fascists go to support a lying, thieving, corporate whore like Bush? We now know - attack a grieving mother and her supporters. It is okay for you to screw yourself and others just like you but will you lay off the real Americans like Sheehan? There is finally people who are standing up to you and the rest of the nasty, horrible, faux patriots. It should scare the hell out of anyone who has supported this bunch of neocons. The American people are taking back their country. You're either with us or not - it doesn't really matter.

Support the war? Enlist or shut up. You can't have it both ways. Looking at your picture you appear to be way over the age of 42 (current enlistment age) then volunteer at Walter Reed, work for the USO, head to Iraq and do your reporting, be part of the problem over there - we do not need you kind of hate mongering here at home. Your membership in the 101st Screaming Chickenshit Chickenhawk Keyboard Brigade is no longer needed, quit knocking a grieving mother. (Godmother or not, aside - jeez - couldn't you find a long, lost dead uncle or something? Check your facts, the woman barely knew Casey - seeing him approx once a year. Boo fucking hoo, like we care what she thinks - it wasn't HER child!) Put your filthy, sin-stained soul where it belongs. In Iraq - I hear the soldiers call it hell.

[Inland]

48. "At the expense of her son's reputation""We support our country"

disgusting aunt, Casey served, and Cindy supports her country.

fuck these people. How many different ways can they tell us that people aren't allowed to criticize the war or the president?

[merh]

49. recommended & kicked!

Just like RWers, they think allowing a woman to write the slam of a mother of a murdered soldier passes for acceptable journalism and is appropriate. That is the same mentality as getting a female lawyer to defend a person accused of rape - it is a play on emotions and sexism. (You know, a woman really couldn't defend a guilty rapist.)

Did I miss it? Did I miss where "poohdo" said her child was serving in Iraq or had served?

And when will these rabid pukes ever learn to check the facts, even if it is just an opinion piece?

Mrs. Sheehan has had her turn with the president and changed her statements about their meeting. President Bush shouldn't waste more time on her.

Why is it seen as wasting time, since he is on VACATION!!!! :argh:






The author, of Fairfield, can be reached at [e-mail]. She returns to her regular Saturday spot next week.

[sakabatou]

52. Grr!

[donheld]

56. Thanks for pointing this out

I sent the author a note too.

[fooj]

57. Who gives a shit if it's Repub? The fucking war was a LIE!!!

Does it really matter who or what party one belongs to? THE WAR WAS A LIE! Why can't these idiots get that through their heads? Thanks for letting me rant!

Peace.

[rodeodance]

58. here is the columnists email address. Lets jam her mailbox.

Catherine Moy
[e-mail]

......So, what changed? The anti-Bush crowd now handles Mrs. Sheehan, answering her phone and prepping her for the media, according to Sheehan's online diary.She still doesn't like critical media attention or when the media ignore her.

"I conservatively got three to five phone calls a minute. I did about 25 phone interviews and several TV interviews," Mrs. Sheehan wrote in the diary. "I was supposed to do: 'The Today Show,' MSNBC live interview, 'Connected Coast to Coast' and 'Hardball,' both on MSNBC. 'The Today Show' just never showed up and the other three MSNBC shows cancelled for no reason. Could it be because NBC is owned by General Electric, a major defense contractor?"

President Bush already heard her last year when taxpayers paid her way to visit him. Later, she told The Reporter that she knew Bush is "sorry and feels some pain for our loss." On Sunday, she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that Bush's deputy chief of staff met with her in Texas and told her "the president really cares." And I said, "You can't tell me that because I've met with him and I know that he doesn't care."

Mrs. Sheehan has had her turn with the president and changed her statements about their meeting. President Bush shouldn't waste more time on her.

The author, of Fairfield, can be reached at [e-mail]. She returns to her regular Saturday spot next week.

[rodeodance]

60. there is, to me, a meanness to the piece--saying bush should not waste

any more time on her.


.....Mrs. Sheehan has had her turn with the president and changed her statements about their meeting. President Bush shouldn't waste more time on her.

[movonne]

59. kick

[rodeodance]

62. Here is my short letter to Ms Moy

Ms. Moy,
You article was exceptionally brutal to a women who has lost her son in a war which was based on lies. Bush has many times changed his reasons for this war, yet you do not allow that a mother could change her mind.
I hope you never have to suffer the kind of loss that Cindy S. has suffered.
Good day,
xxxxx

[rodeodance]

71. response from Ms Moy.

.............

Thank you for your words. I can tell you that I have already suffered such a loss, though not in a war. Life is not fair. I support Mrs. Sheehan's rights under our Constitution. She is brave, as are the people who oppose her position.
Thank you again for taking the time to write.

God Bless You,
Catherine Moy

[ailsagirl]

74. Oh BROTHER!!... I got one too-- see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4340339&mesg_id=4340339

[leesa]

88. I see she's a fake GOP christian?

[Iris]

61. This is just one column

Here's al the coverage:

http://www.thereporter.com/sheehan

[Midlodemocrat]

65. SHE WROTE BACK!!!

Here is the text. What a moran. Must be autogenerated after the tongue lashing I gave her.

Hi ********,

Thank you for reading my column, and thank you for your strong thoughts. I appreciate when somebody takes the time to write to me. I pray for Mrs. Sheehan and her family. I feel such sorrow for her.

God Bless You,

Catherine

[cbear70]

66. She wrote me too..

Thanks for taking the time to write to me.
I, too, have known the loss of a child, brother, mother and father. So I have great empathy for both you and Mrs. Sheehan. I still disagree with her on this point.
Mrs. Sheehan was indeed grieving when she met President Bush. And she will grieve for the rest of her life. When her family met President Bush, she was sound enough to discuss with her husband how to address her grievances with him. She chose to do what Casey would want her to do, according to a news report that she did not challenge at the time. It tells me that Casey would want respect for the president, who was his commander in chief.
But time changes things. Mrs. Sheehan is now in a different state of grief, which both you and I know. She is a strong woman who has always despised Bush. She cannot hide forever behind her grief, hoping that it will protect her from criticism. My grief has not afforded me such protection, and I would not expect it to.
I pray for Mrs. Sheehan daily.
I thank you again for your thoughts.

God Bless You,
Catherine Moy

[rodeodance]

69. I highly doubt that one can equate her loss with the loss of son in war-

especially a war based on lies.

[cbear70]

72. I know

I wrote her back . I realize its pointless but I felt the need to do it. Its the only thing I can do. I know I don't know what its like to lose a child because of war, I do know what its like to lose a child and I know grief. This woman does not understand or she would not accuse Cindy of hiding behind it. It just really pissed me off.

[rodeodance]

70. "She is a strong woman who has always despised Bush"--strong lang-.

uage!!

[rodeodance]

67. gawd----what a fakey note. I will let you know if she writes back to me.

[mondo joe]

78. My letter to her announcing my prayers

Congratulations on your appalling smear of Cindy Sheehan. I wonder how it feels to bear false witness against a grieving mother.

I particularly like how you refer to Cindy's "family" opposing her - by referring to Casey's aunt and some cousins - while ignoring the fact that Cindy's husband and remaining children fully support her. Since when do cousins bear greater weight as "family" than the nuclear family conservatives claim to value?

I remember a time when Republicans were good people with values they stuck to - my father was one of them. These days there is no value the GOP will not cast aside without hesitation in exchange for a bit more power. To the GOP of today, fiscal responsibility is a joke, ethics are an inconvenience and the family of a dead soldier is a scapegoat. How fortunate my father was to have passed away before the party he loved turned into this.

For you, Catherine Moy, I can only pray for God to rid you of your hate, and let you speak what in your heart you know is true: this war was justified by falsehoods, the occupation is nothing less than a disaster and your leader is a coward who would not serve in his own time and dishonors those he sends to their deaths today.

May God bless you and forgive you.

Joe Mondo

[mondo joe]

79. My letter to Moy -

Congratulations on your appalling smear of Cindy Sheehan. I wonder how it feels to bear false witness against a grieving mother.

I particularly like how you refer to Cindy's "family" opposing her - by referring to Casey's aunt and some cousins - while ignoring the fact that Cindy's husband and remaining children fully support her. Since when do cousins bear greater weight as "family" than the nuclear family conservatives claim to value?

I remember a time when Republicans were good people with values they stuck to - my father was one of them. These days there is no value the GOP will not cast aside without hesitation in exchange for a bit more power. To the GOP of today, fiscal responsibility is a joke, ethics are an inconvenience and the family of a dead soldier is a scapegoat. How fortunate my father was to have passed away before the party he loved turned into this.

For you, Catherine Moy, I can only pray for God to rid you of your hate, and let you speak what in your heart you know is true: this war was justified by falsehoods, the occupation is nothing less than a disaster and your leader is a coward who would not serve in his own time and dishonors those he sends to their deaths today.

May God bless you and forgive you.

Joe Mondo

[mondo joe]

81. Her reply - more lies - and my response

Thank you so much for your kind words. I appreciate your prayers more than you know. It was painful and difficult to write my column. I am not full of hate. I am full of love, for Cindy and her family. By the way, don't forget that Casey's grandmother and grandfather also signed that letter.
You do not know me at all, you only know one article. I have written thousands. Do your homework.
I will pray for you, too, Joe. I appreciate your sentiments. I hope your letter to me was not a result of a gang mentality on democraticunderground. Whew, Liberals can be a vicious lot.
Anyway, remember what Jesus said: You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

Thanks again.
God Bless You,

---------------------------------------

Your column was plainly not painful or difficult to write. If it were
you'd have written otherwise. Or perhaps the difficulty was something
known as a conscience, however diminished your might be.

I know, based on your repeated false witness of Cindy Sheehan, more
than enough to know you are hurting and in need of truth and love.
How sad that you don't even see how plain your lies and hatred are.

As we know, even the devil can quote scripture for his purposes, and
you are a case in point.

When you are prepared to speak the truth I know God will smile on you.
Until then, lose some weight and stay healthy so you don't go to
your grave with this evil on your soul.

[PA Democrat]

84. Does she believe that constantly invoking the name of God

somehow changes the nature of her hateful diatribe? Does it lessen the grief of parents whose children have died fighting a war based upon falsehoods for which George Bush showed a LUST bordering on obscenity? Does it lessen the grief of families of innocent Iraqis dying daily in the hell that Bush's war has unleashed in Iraq?

Her mean-spirited character assassination followed by the frequent invocation of God's name are morally repulsive. I felt physically ill reading her words. How can anyone feel that they are doing God's work while justifying the murder of innocents?

[warrens]

80. My letter to da bitch

You America-hating scum on the right crack me up. You'll say anything no matter how inane to back up the miserable punk you thugs voted for. Like him, you can never admit you made a mistake. It's a pathology; Ted Bundy, another Republican, had the same symptoms. He at least had the guts to kill close up, unlike the giggling murderer in the White House.

So, Cindy had the nerve to cross Casey's "blood relatives"? What the hell is she, a stranger from another planet? The combination of stupidity, viciousness, denial and fascism exhibited by today's Republicans makes me embarassed I was ever one. And I bet decent human beings like Barry Goldwater are rolling in their graves.

We need a 12-step program for you idiots. Step one: Admit you're an idiot and too stupid to be trusted with a vote. Step two: Admit you're powerless over your hatred, ignorance and viciousness. You get the idea.

I can't wait til we take back the country from fascist clowns like you and your idol, the giggling murderer. Here's a little current events quiz for you. Saddam Hussein was ____ percent responsible for Sept. 11, 2001. Any answer but zero means you have to stay after school and actually read something, instead of drooling over liars like O'Reilly and Hume.

[Miss Chybil]

82. Blah, blah, blah... la, la, la... Shut up, Catherine.

You're making yourself look bad.

[Beam Me Up]

83. I emailed her, too. I'm so sick of this kind of crap coming from

sanctimonious know nothings.

I wrote:

Subject: Why are we in Iraq?

Why are our soldiers dieing?

No WMD.

No "imminent threat".

No connection to 9/11.

No greeting with flowers.

No Democracy (worthy of the name).

No exit strategy.

COST: Two thousand soldiers, tens of thousands of Iraqi's, billions and billions of dollars that our grand children will be paying to--GUESS WHO--all the wealthy merchants of death that put Bush into office.

This "war on terrorism" is a farce and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. They could have had bin Laden but they let him go because Bush is friends with the bin Laden family. If all they wanted was to get Sadam, they could have done that too. After all, whatever WMD he ever had he bought from THEM.

YOU are the one spouting prapaganda. YOU are the one who is a tool--of rich fascist merchants of death. And, oh, when I say "fascist" I'm not being just descriptive; that's exactly what they are. The Bush fortune was founded on banking for the Third Reich.

Why do YOU hate America? Cindy Sheehan is a real patriot. She knows the truth and she isn't afraid to speak it to the powers that be. But people like you protect them against mothers of fallen soldiers like her. Why do YOU hate America?

(my name and town)

[warrens]

85. Keep hammering on that meme

Republicans hate America. They want us to collapse so they can get rich on the wreckage. They won't have to pay taxes (they'll get some "Get America Back to Work" subsidy and they'll get cheap, compliant labor. They hate this America; they love the 1870 version.

[dooner]

89. Vacaville is right next to Travis AFB

A VERY large Air Force Base. There's a lot of military, and retired military in the area. It's definitely conservative.

Don't forget however, that a reporter from this newspaper recently corrected Drudge's report that misquoted Cindy's original interview. The Vacaville Reporter made Drudge look like a lying fool who was manipulating Cindy's quotes to make up a story. The fact that Cindy's hometown paper defended her against a Drudge attack was widely covered by the media.

SO... they aren't all bad?