" It is obscene for Cindy to thus dishonor the memory of her son"

[GreenPartyVoter]

"f Cindy has a document that shows that her son changed his mind before his death and that he wanted out of the military and dispised everything that the war against Saddam stood for, then let her produce it.

Her position is this (I have heard her say this many times), she met with the president and then later she heard the president say that he wanted to finish the job that the military had begun in Iraq to honor the military dead (which includes the son of Cindy.)

Cindy says that she then became upset and decided that the president could no speak for her son's honor by claiming to finish the job in his name. This brings us to the present time.

Cindy began to denounce the president and claims that the president has no right to speak for her dead son's honor. Now Cindy wants a second meeting with the president. Yet her son seems to have been in lockstep with the president.

It is obscene for Cindy to thus dishonor the memory of her son, unless she can produce the vital evidence described above.

All of this leads us to put up or shut up: not you, but Cindy.

Now do you understand? You are thick."

http://www.capitolgrilling.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/12907/8.html


ANother person putting words into the mouth of her dead son. I can't wait for the Plame indictments to come down and shoe the BFEE for the lying junta they really are! x(

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. So he's offering immunity for conscientious objectors? Yay!

[noamnety]

2. It's obscene for the author to speak for Casey

It's obscene for him to pretend that he is honoring Casey by trashing his mother.

This is obscene in the same way that Bill Frist diagnosing Terri Schiavo by watching a video clip of her was obscene, or in the same way that neocon political operatives tried to shove Terri Schiavo's husband out of the way because they knew better than him what her wishes were.

[madeline_con]

7. Ditto. How dare he!

Who does he think he is??!!

[Richard Steele]

17. Ditto SECONDED. How LOW can these scum get? Shameless Asshole!!!!!

[MadisonProgressive]

3. All of this leads us to put up or shut up: not you, but Cindy.

AAAAAAAAAAAAA, SHADAP!!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. *lol*

[madeline_con]

8. I can just see Bugs at the end of the bar....

saying that to Rootin' Tootin' Sam. :rofl:

[LSK]

4. he left some huge facts out

Between her 1st meeting with Bush and now the 9/11 report came out, the Duefler report came out, the DSM came out. THERE WERE NO WMD. IRAQ HAD NO TIES TO TERRORISM. SOME HUGE FUCKING FACTS THAT THE ASSHOLES LEFT OUT.

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. but but but they found a chem factory in Iraq today. Just in time

to rebuke Ms Sheehan! :eyes:

[LSK]

10. MORE LEFT OUT FACTS

- A chemical plant created by INSURGENTS. No insurgents before we invaded!!

- They have been finding lots of chemical plants, none of them led to WMD.

- They have no details of what chemicals they are.

MORE FUCKING FACTS THEY LEAVE OUT!!

I GET SO MAD ABOUT THESE IDIOTTSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! IF I WAS AS STUPID AS THESE MOFOS I'D WANT TO PUT A BULLET IN MY HEAD!! HOW DO THEY LIVE WITH NO MENTAL FUNCTIONS.

end of rant.

[madeline_con]

18. A bullet would be an improvement.

At least there'd be something up there, even if it just rattled around!

[madeline_con]

11. Say it ain't so.....

They'll never stop the "I told you so's", even of it's a hair gel factory.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. It was posted here somewhere today

[LSK]

14. i know it was

And by reading the story gives the real facts of the sitation. If you only read the headline, then it might look bad. Of course these braindead dolts only read headlines.

[madeline_con]

19. Found one... According to Science Daily:

"The raid, which occurred last Monday but was not reported until now, turned up 11 precursor agents -- some of them quite dangerous by themselves -- capable of posing "lingering hazards" for those exposed to them, said Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, a military spokesman in Baghdad."

I can't vouch for the site, but the writer, well...
Who couldn't see through the huge mountain of caca written between the lines?


"... some of them quite dangerous by themselves ..."

Right.

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. I've got clorox and windex in my kitchen. Am I an insurgent?

[dissent1977]

21. Terrorist!!!

I am going to have to call homeland security on you. Clorox and windex are toxic you know, are you trying to poison us all?

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. And I even know that if you mix them together.. BOOM! Of course,

kids in science classes don't learn that sort of thing anymore. Just that God made household cleaners, and it was good.

[madeline_con]

24. Word!

:rofl:

[madeline_con]

23. Keep the shades drawn.

Some busybody neighbor could report you to Homeland Security.

True story. At another forum I used to frequent before it went Freep, there was this guy who'd keep changing his name every time he'd get banned, and he'd tell us he'd just reported us to HS if we said anything that required independent thought.

He'd send freaky private msgs. It scared some people. I'd always get lonley for him when he'd get booted. He was too fun to mess with.

[LSK]

26. youve got some Chemicals?? PROOF THAT SADDAM HAD WMD!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Garbo 2004]

28. Actually Cindy was publicly speaking out against the war by August 2004,

four months after her son died. She's not just a recent public critic of Bush and the war. Apparently she's only just been noticed by the corporate media and freeperdom as a result of her stand in Texas. For example, from Vacaville Reporter http://www.thereporter.com/ archive (must pay to read the article):

Voicing frustration
Author: Ben Antonius/Reporter Intern
Article ID: 2320870
Date: August 7, 2004
Publication: Reporter, The (Vacaville, CA)

An ambush outside southern Baghdad claimed the life of Army Spc. Casey Sheehan on April 4, about two weeks after the Vacaville soldier first arrived in Iraq and nearly a year after the official end to major combat.

Now, four months after his death, his mother and sister have recorded television spots for the Web site RealVoices.org, decrying the military campaign in Iraq as unjust and unnecessary and criticizing President George W. Bush.

[Webster Green]

9. Cindy has scared the shit out of the bush-bots....

In their desperate attempts to find fault in what she is doing, they've all been reduced to babbling incoherent nonsense.

[madeline_con]

15. As per their usual, attack the messenger if yer B.S. is exposed.

It's the best these geniuses can do. They never banked on being overthrown by "peacniks". Horrors! :scared:

[libertypirate]

13. You don't honor anything by going along with a lie...

[teryang]

16. Rupture of the great patriotric myth

The patriotic imagery of a mother and her dead warrior son transcends time and nations. This mythical image is one deeply and unconciously ingrained in the minds of citizens.

Cindy has presented herself as the symbol of the archetypal myth at Crawford. The war mongers have established a pattern of ignoring the sacrifices of our mother's sons in Iraq by a deliberate policy of censorship. Cindy, as the mythical icon personified, has brillantly outmaneuvered the image peddlers and beaten them at their own game.

[emdee]

25. The Rule Makers

That should be conservative's new name: The Rule Makers

1. If you question Bush's lies, you don't support our troops.
2. If you lose your son in Iraq and want to question Bush's lies, you must come up with documentation stating that said son would want you to do so.
3. You cannot question something unless you have the answer to it (this one always blows my mind - "Mommy, there's a man outside opening his trench coat and he's naked" --- "Now, Now, dear - don't complain unless you have the solution!")
4. Conservatives know what the dead want - whether brain-dead or dead on the battlefield, we know what they are thinking because we are the Christian Party.

:+

[sakabatou]

27. Hey media

STFU!

[DanCa]

29. Where do they come up with this feldecarb?

Cindy has so much compassion and hope and love and all these ingrates go is on the attack. I Just hope that she reallizes that these cowards are just projecting their own ineadquecies onto her. There just to cowardly to enlist so they got to tear down cindy to make themselves look better. Hang in in the Cindy, praying for you like gang busters

[dogday]

30. Since when do they know what a

dead soldier would want? And why doesn't the Mother's feeling count? I mean she gave him life after all, should she not have a voice?

I did not bring my son into this world to die alone in Iraq either, and I hope it does not happen, but if it does, I dare anyone to tell me anything at that point....

[Solly Mack]

31. BS. Casey was her son - his memory belongs to her..not to the people

of America - not to any news organization - not to any pundit - and not to some hack with a column to churn out

Casey was a soldier - but the people of America do not now, nor will they ever, get to decide what that means to the soldier or to the soldier's family.


He was one of "the troops" - but that doesn't mean the people of America get to claim a piece of him.

They get NO SAY whatsoever in what Casey's memory is or should be

Cindy has her memory of her son and it's high time people stopped running their mouths about what that memory is or what that memory should be


Stop projecting what you think it means to be a soldier onto Casey and Cindy Sheehan. You only show your ignorance when you do.

[Rex]

32. Why can't these idiots type any better than 5th graders?

No offense to our DU kiddies.
:evilgrin:

[leesa]

33. Can this idiot provide the documents that prove Casey knew he was

fighting a war for a lie and approved of that?
What a stupid woman!