Why was the * Admin so hot to take action against Iraq?

[TheDebbieDee]

With the firing of a 4-star General and the slapping down of another 4-star General, maybe there are some parallels in history to explain the real reason that the * admin is so hot to spread our military forces even thinner with talk of an Iranian invasion:

Hitler invaded Russia and set-up camps for a substantial number of his troops in North Africa.

Maybe it was, in part, because he was afraid to keep them in Europe when he knew that some of his Generals would eventually begin plotting to overthrow his regime.

If a large amount of his troops were successful invading Russia, so much the better: they were busy and out of the way until he needed them for some other mission.

Hitler could, oh, maybe even get away with stealing elections with his military off-balance from deployments and re-deployments.

If his invasion of Russia was not successful, then those troops and their commanders were one less enemy from which the paranoid Hitler had to defend himself.

Can you see any other parallels with current events?

I read somewhere that Bush majored in history. I x-posted this on the history forum.

[K8-EEE]

1. They Need Justification For A Draft

They need something like 9/11 to "change everything," ie, go back on their word that there would be no draft.

They simply can't continue these unending wars with a volunteer army, as the chicken hawk freepers like to be armchair warriors rather than put their asses on the line.

Naturally there will be country club type loopholes for the Bush Twins and their friends...

[wli]

4. yep, here comes the nuclear MIHOP n/t

[stray cat]

2. Bush thought it would be easy and provide a new base

I think Bush really thought it would be a cakewalk and we would be welcomed with open arms. Iraq as an American allie would provide a friendly base to attack Iran and Syria.

[Inland]

3. Because it was available and easy

a palooka for Bush to knock down and be the "wartime president" of an easy, popular war.

Because it was available and easy, there were a number of different goals that coalesced.

Some in the admin wanted get us in favor of war as are natural state and a single leader as the status quo for our "democracy.

Some wanted the oil.

Some wanted bases and knew we had to leave Saudi.

Some wanted to have some country we could beat the shit out of in an inhuman way as a sign that we are the baddest mfers on the planet.

Some wanted to cure Poppy's failure to finish an evil dictator.

But agreement on Iraq was premised on it being easy and available.

[Stirk]

5. They're incredibly out of touch. I think they may actually believe it

will help the Republicans in the 2006 elections.

Still, I've no doubt that the real motivation is to control Iran's resources by setting up a US-friendly regime. Same old same old.

[Disturbed]

6. Main reasons

Bush Regime Iraq Successes

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits, esp. Bush Junta fave ally Saudi Dicktatorshit.

[Wizard777]

8. 5. KBR was headed for bankruptcy. n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. Don't forget Domestic Politics. Shrub presidency was NOWHERE

before the drumbeat for war in Iraq.

Crap economy.
Corporate scandal, a new one every week.
He was fast on the road to one term palookaville before the great idea to make him a "war president".

[vogonjiltz]

7. I don't at all.

Hitler invaded Russia because he felt the the Reich was pre-ordained to take Russia as liebensraum for the German volk. The local slavs would thier slaves. He also had designs on oil fields in the caucasus. He picked the summer solstice as a fotuitous day to invade.
His grand scheme in North Africa was to swing through the Middle East and have the two armies meet up.
The schemes of the German officers came about when they figured out that Hitler was delusional and would bring about the destruction of Germany.
As time went on he became more delusional and paranoid of course, but that came after the start of Operation Barbarossa.

[Lindacooks]

9. It was a personal grudge chimpy had against Hussein,

for 'trying to kill mah daddy!!'

No kidding.

[Cleita]

11. If you haven't read this,

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

This is where it started. Look at the signatures. Most of those guys are now part of the Bush Administration. We have been taken over by a fascist think tank. Bush is just their tool.

[delen]

12. Yes , but

This started thirty years or more ago when OPEC countries Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq and others nationalized their oil production which until then had been handled by large and mostly American oil companies, much in the same manor that Halliburton is handling Iraq's today. That is these companies controlled the drilling shipping, refinement and kicked back a percentage of the profits to the necessary people in what ever country was concerned. During the years 1970-1973 these countries took control of their oil production and with it all the profits.
Then in 1973 in retaliation for America's support of Israel in the Yom Kippur war they embargoed oil. The effect on the American economy was devastating, but more over America's world standing as top dog was forever diminished. This is really agood part of the reason we pulled out of Viet Nam quite literally we ran out of gas.
So what to do, how to put America back on top? Many things had to be in place first including the fall of the Soviet Union.
This is the purpose of r the * presidency, to go to war with Iraq, why specific ly Iraq ? We had been softening up Iraq since the Gulf War.
Phase one is almost complete, time to begin phase 2
May heaven help us.

[Cleita]

14. Your right.

The Clinton letter though from the PNAC puts names on it.

[delen]

15. The scariest part

about some of the neo-cons is that some of them might actually BELIEVE in what they're doing at least the old school did Bush1, Reagon et al

[natrat]

13. what is steal billions of dollars