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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:09 PM
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Lastest reason for the war in Iraq
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 11:13 PM by nadinbrzezinski
The emancipation of women, I shit you not.....

That is why we are bout to get an Islamic Republic in a formerly Secular state with the most progresive Women Rights issues across the ME

Now that you have gotten the memo feel free to discuss
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:11 PM
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1. Two words...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 11:14 PM by manic expression
"Misery gangs".

On edit: Not to mention the fact that they can't go out of their houses without covering up completely (when before the invasion this was not the case). The practice of honor killings has skyrocketed, when before the invasion this was a rare occurrence. These are just a FEW of the problems that have befallen women of Iraq because of the US invasion.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:53 PM
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14. How about the pending war with Iran?? WMD's?...again?!!
I don't trust this president and especially his administration as innocent US. soldiers are cut down for Bush's "noble cause"
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:54 PM
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15. That excuse is totally ridiculous they're claiming
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 11:54 PM by FreedomAngel82
Read their latest Constiution and information about it? It would be interesting to compare this new Constiution and to Saddam and what he had laid out.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:20 AM
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16. As I said, I shit you not
that is the latest talking point, given today's article on the WaPo I had to smile
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:11 PM
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2. They'll get the same rights as the women in Afghanistan. * was real
proud of that. They got to vote!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:15 PM
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4. To the credit of the admiinstration the few times tehy deserve it
not that it was them... by the way, voting for women in Afghanistan is not done that often, last time was duing the early days of the Soviet Occupation.

I suspect though that many of these women voted the way their husbands told them, when they actually voted... and the credit properly should go to all of NATO, not us alone.. but hey if he wants to be proud of it, I will even give him that one... I am feeling nice today... now Mr Presnit why is taht right going away quickly in Iraq and will it be there next Afghani Election?

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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:26 PM
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11. Not to crash your party or anything
but women's rights have not improved whatsoever since the Taliban's removal. That worthless election didn't change anything. Warlords rule the country and the extremely repressive practices have remained the same.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:30 PM
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12. Oh I know that, but the fact that SOME women
mostly for the cmaras voted, may have been a PR improvement, so if he wants to take credit, I am feeling generous... Women's rights were teh best under the ruskies as much as they had OTHER issues...
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:14 PM
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3. From today's front-page WaPo article...
But whatever the outcome on specific disputes, the document on which Iraq's future is to be built will require laws to be compliant with Islam. Kurds and Shiites are expecting de facto long-term political privileges. And women's rights will not be as firmly entrenched as Washington has tried to insist, U.S. officials and Iraq analysts say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300853.html
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:17 PM
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5. Oh did mention that to the guy
he said but I have lived in SA, I was there in the 80s with the Navy... ok, but SA is NOT Iraq... and he literally tried hard to change the subject, heck when I mentioned PNAC, he had that momentary look of WTF, but that did not stop him from proudly saying it is about the emancipation of woemn, of cousre I did metion the little tidbit taht the caus belli was WMDs... that really made him squirm
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:19 PM
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6. I love when people try to lump every Middle Eastern country together.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 11:19 PM by deadparrot
:crazy:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:23 PM
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9. me too and to his credit
that tactic will work with MOST Americans, for most Muricans DON'T know geography
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:25 PM
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10. Yep, you're right on that.
Education. Education. Education. We need more--much more--of it.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:21 PM
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7. Someone did a masters thesis on the reasons for Bush's war
He/she came up with 27 different excuses. Of course that was a couple of years ago so Bush might have added a few since then.
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:23 PM
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8. I guess that's what he meant...
"They hate us for OUR freedoms"
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:51 PM
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13. kick.
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