Help!! I need a short and sweet reply to this e-mail...

[Saphire]

Here's what I don't understand about this lady, Phyllis, and maybe you can clear some of this up....she already HAD a meeting w/ Pres. Bush, shortly after her son died. Her family is NOT there supporting her, am I right? She and her husband have split up because of this, too. I know everyone grieves differently, and I think she is still grieving for her son, but this has become almost an obsession with her, in my opinion. Why does she think she deserves another private meeting with the President, when I'm sure a lot of other surviving parents may have some questions too, but aren't camped out on his lawn.
Again, though, let me say that she has every right to do this, because it's one of the freedoms that so many before her son fought and died for. Peaceable demonstration is one way of trying to get your voice heard. But for Mrs. Sheehan, I think she may need some grief counseling as well as some family therapy.

[ET Awful]

1. Actually, she and her husband split for other reasons, not because

of her protesting (which he and her other children support). Second, a simple reading of her hometown paper's original interview shows she was not satisfied with that earlier meeting and was, in fact, insulted by it.

The best form of grief counseling for Cindy is the knowledge that no other mothers will lose their sons or daughters because of Bush's lies.

[Lars39]

2. She met with bush *before* the Downing Street Memos

came to light.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/9/01024/39519

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Show her the video of her on Keith Olbermann

She addresses all these issues and more.

[wake.up.america]

3. Cindy is doing exactly what I would be doing.

Now, if others do not chose to do, it their choice.

[ray of light]

4. This is what I sent.--not short but...

Ok...you brought up Cindy Sheehan and I could not respond at the time. First, she's trying to save lives! Next...she has learned about specific facts that BUSH outright LIED and now there is proof in the Downing Street Minutes to show he fabricated this whole war with Iraq. This was not known specifically during her first meeting with him. (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com ) AND also, 70 percent of the people are supportive of her and 60 % are now against the war and how this idiot in chief has handled it. BUT each of us has the right to view the facts, ask questions and demand answers! AND when your child has died as a result of lies and incompetence than you have a bigger reason to hold any idiot accountable! I say--good for her! Thank God she's telling people like it is--AND she's fighting the media lies--just like Kerry had to do against the swift boat liars for Bush. Also, mom as a mom myself who is absolutely enraged at the betrayal of trust that a flawed system has done to a beloved child, I whole heartedly endorse her standing up and shoving their crimes in their faces.

The problem is the media--and most people out there don't even know the media has pulled the wool over their eyes!

Here's some stuff the news doesn't show you. And this is why you should just stop paying attention to the corporate media. CNN=TIME WARNER=AOL, ABC=DISNEY, NBC-MSNBC=GE (they get a lot of contracts from the war!), CBS=(I can't remember!), FOX-all republican all day! They learned from Watergate when the media brought down the President--so they've spent the last 30 years mumbling "liberal media" while they allowed corportaions--whose sole interest is profit --to take over the entermedia. Also, it's easy to google their donations and see that TIME-AOL< DISNEY, GE are MAJOR DONATORS to Republican Candidates and the RNC--WELL more than they ever donate to Democrats. Besides...why would the "watch dog of the government" be making campaign donations anyways?

Ok..so here's more: have you read the Toledo Blade? Because in the Toledo Blade they've got tons of articles about Tom NOE and his wife who were complicit in "coingate" and election tampering (FRAUD). Did cnn, abc, nbc, Fox tell you anything about it?

ANd more--since the time when Cindy Sheehan first met with Bush, more and more facts about the war have come out. Have you heard of the Downing Street Minutes? Did the media tell you about those? Those are the minutes from Bush's meetings with Blair and his cabinet that said essentially that they would fabricate the facts to go to war. They also showed that Bush and Blair intentionally built up the attacks over Iraq with NO PROVOCATION from Sadam with the sole intention of getting Sadam to attack. Did the media tell you that?

And..let's look at Wilson and "Plame". Did the media tell you that Rove, Cheney, Libby, and others who are being investigated actually leaked classified information? Did they tell you that Wilson had proof Bush was lying so they "outed his wife in retaliation". Did the media tell you that this is treason? Did the media tell you that Judith Miller had been fed facts even before this leak was investigated? Did the media tell you that a reporter is given protection from giving their sources when they are playing the role of a whistleblower, but when they are covering up CRIMINAL ACTIVITY (which TREASON IS!) is absolutely not covered by our constitution. She has in essense become a witness to a crime.

[AllegroRondo]

13. CBS = Viacom

The same company that owns MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, and numerous other networks.

[Jade Fox]

5. What Sheehan is doing is symbolic....

Forcing Bush to respond to those who have been affected by his policies,
instead of hiding out like he's doing. It's not just about Sheehan's loss,
but about all of ours.

What right does Bush have to do what he has done, and not have to
even endure a few moments of discomfort over it?

[Iris]

9. Good point. And he could have made a symbolic gesture by meeting with

this woman again and then none of this would be happening.

[Midlodemocrat]

6. She was in shock when she met with *

and probably hopeful that he would give her some consolation about why her child died.

Then, she is treated to being called 'mom' and 'ma' by a man who doesn't even know her child's name.

Then, she sees the DSM.

Then, the 9/11 commission results are made public.


He died for a lie. She has every right to be there and demand answers.

[shoelace414]

7. We don't have a King, we have a president.

how many times has hallibuton met wiht Bush?

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Exactly

Also her sister is there with her.

[frankly_fedup2]

17. or the Saudis, or the Taliban, or Tony Blair, etc., . . .

You need to cut on Limpballs. He is insulting this women stating that she is doing nothing but belittling the short life he had.

Now he is on "Who runs this Country" and why they don't care when the Liberals say the Bush girls are not there, there are no Republicans, there are a few, but that does not matter to any of us.

He is preaching about the sons and daughter when he was a draft dodger because he had a cyst on his ass. A pilonidal cyst is dangerous; however, he could have went to vietnam.

He is calling Cindy Sheehan and anyone with her a bunch of squatters. They are nothing but miserable and unhappy and are deciding to take it out on who they think is controlling their lives, which they think is Government.

He is giving a big, long, boring, speech. You will probably enjoy it. Oh my goodness. He is getting into the God-Fearing people against us Liberals or Liberal politicians.

I don't believe this, this man is an illegal drug addict, adulterer, racist, and known liar, and yet he is sitting there preaching about how pitiful our lives are. He needs to look at the man in the mirror and realize most everyone laughs at him.

Oh god, I'm cutting this asshole off. He is preaching and has no right to do that. All he cares about is his money and making stupid jokes about how high oil for his jet is. I hope when he has it picking up his slut on Fridays from CNN so she is laying in his bed at his house with her legs spread by the time he gets off work.

How he thinks this woman would be interested in him as a person is a joke. It's called that 200+ million contract you signed. Let's just hope she doesn't screw you to death.

[Iris]

8. Here's something her daughter wrote

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4355768

I'd say it disputes the idea that no one else in her family is supporting her.

She met Bush in 2003. A lot has come out since then - mainly how much Bush lied to get public support for this war. She has a right to go back and ask more questions.

Today in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, there's a Bush quote that says, "But I have a life and I'm going to live it." Can you think of anything more callous to say when a woman who's son has died before the age of 25 because of him? What about Casey's life? Or the lives of the other young men killed for no good reason?

[BlueEyedSon]

10. How about:

"Fuck you, you idiot neocon apologist. Go read some non-fiction about the Bush administration and this BS war, then we can talk!"

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. Short and truthful

I'd send that reply.

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Her "meeting" with Bush

was an accepted invitation for a visit to the White House along with several other families. From what I have read, this "meeting" was so that Bush could go from room to room (families are separated into separate rooms) and give them 5 or 10 minutes of his time.

So, putting yourself in the shoes of any other family that has received and accepted the invitation to "meet" with him shortly after the shocking death of a child or spouse...Would you be preparing to have a one on one Q&A with the POTUS?

[CityZen-X]

16. Reply Like This....

Did Sheehan's son die in the Revolutionary War? I do not think so! So how is it you say that he died for "one of the freedoms"!
You must be referring to the freedom this so called pResident has, to murder Innocent Iraqi's, and to send her son and others to die for nothing. Nothing more than to line the pockets of his corporate buddies and to fulfill all of their Faustian Machinations!

[HeeBGBz]

18. I've got the same questions to reply to someone else

Seems the RWingers are stepping up the Cindy bashing.

[marions ghost]

19. I would say...

Some people choose to talk their grief out privately with counsellors or friends, and others choose a more active way to deal with it. Either way should be respected. Cindy is using her anger (which anyone feels over the untimely death of a child) to try to prevent others from not only dying in Iraq, but in dying in future wars that are not justified. This effort will stand as Cindy's memorial to her son. It is the same as the mothers who started MADD or mothers who work for attention to a disease that has killed their child. For many people the best 'therapy' is to work to change the conditions that led to an untimely death. It may be called an obsession, but you could also call it "dedication to a worthy cause." Obviously many people around the country agree that it may be time to speak the truth about this disastrous war. It's another mess founded on bad political decisions like Vietnam. Cindy has a LOT of support in that viewpoint. That is helping her keep her sanity.

[Child_Of_Isis]

20. So, are you thinking that Cindy should just pack it up

and allow others to die also? How very noble...and sheeple like!

[Saphire]

21. Thank you so much, everyone. n/t