Here is what saddens me most about Cindy Sheehan's divorce

[benburch]

Folks,

People get divorced all the time for many different reasons. Often the loss of a beloved child is the stress that breaks a marriage apart. Often one spouse being away for a long time for business or political reasons is the stress that does it. Cindy Sheehan and her husband have been through both.

But now the mechanism of personal destruction on the Right is damning this woman on the basis of her pending divorce as though;

- This was some moral fault on her part

- This in any way discredits her message or her grief over the death of her son

- None of these Freeptards have ever gotten a divorce

To them I say "Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye." - Luke 6:42

[wtmusic]

1. IMO she shouldn't even address the topic

By responding she gives it credence. By discussion we make it an issue. It's a non-issue.

[pacalo]

8. I thought it was important for her to point out the distant relationship

of the in-laws with her son, plus the fact that she & her husband have always disagreed philosophically with them.

Other than that, Mrs. Sheehan makes it clear that she draws the line in involving her family business.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. I agree.

And if it weren't this, they'd find something else to beat her with, they always do.

[dsc]

2. Here is just a partial list of famous Republican divorcees

George Will, Newt Ginrich (3), Rush Limbaugh (2), Bob Dole, Ronald Reagan, Steve LaTourette, John McCain and God alone knows who I left out.

[Ken Burch]

23. You left out former Congressman "B-1" Bob Dornan

who was not only a divorced Catholic when he ran for president but was also apparently so estranged from his immediate family that he posed with life-sized cardboard cutouts of them at his declaration of candidacy.

[dsc]

25. I didn't know he was divorced

I thought that papers had been filed without a divorce. Guess that is one to add.

[Ken Burch]

32. I thought he was divorced. Somebody should probably check.

Still, posing with cutouts is never a good sign.

[Jacobin]

3. Losing a child often breaks up marriages

You would think that the opposite might be true, but it appears not to be.

I would say that his filing this right now is petty, mean spirited and designed to hurt her. Not very noble, but then divorce wars rarely are noble.

[knowbody0]

4. i predict that mr.Sheehan

will have a statement for the press in favor of his wife who had been his sweetie since highschool.

[Fridays Child]

5. Her marriage is only the latest casualty of war for the Sheehan family.

nt

[Bumblebee]

6. Just don't let it bother you -- because that's what they want.

It won't affect her standing and in some people's eyes will make her even more of a person they can relate to. If anything, it makes her husband more unsympathetic because his timing for filing is so bad. He must be really angry at her.

[eleny]

7. I was proud of her today

When Tweety asked her about it, she told him it was yet another victim of W's war. And she said she would not say any more about it. She made Tweety look like a piece of shit on a stick.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

9. RePUKE Reagan was the only divorced president EVER

There's your answer to the fucktards

[Cleita]

10. Maybe they'll be happy after they kill her from too much

stress like they did Andy.

[tsuki]

11. A death such as this destroys a family. It does not matter, the pain

is too great. You are not supposed to outlive your children. At least, that is what I have heard from my youth. The pain of remembering is too great.

[Jackpine Radical]

13. I recall from somewhere that 2/3 of couples who lose a child

end up in divorce. I can't remember the source of that statistic; I read it years ago, but iirc it was a reputable source.

[cbear70]

31. very true

That statistic is listed in several places. When I lost my daughter, the counselor told my husband and I that the rate of divorce is extremely high. The grief that you experience is so overwhelming, it is hard enough to keep yourself afloat, much less the work it takes to keep a marriage alive. Thankfully, my husband and I work every day, its been four years but its so hard. Cindy lost her son in war, I can't even imagine her pain and her husbands pain. I really wish this was not even in the news , it sickens me to see that.

[LiberalinNC]

14. What the hell does her getting a divorce have to do w/ why our

military is still in Iraq? Not a thing!!! These righties are the worst hypocrites out there, they love to pass judgment on anyone who disagrees w/ their believes! Tell me this, Wasn't their hero Ronnie divorced? Hasn't fat ass Rush been divorced several times, and they still listen to him, and isn't he a drug addicted jerk too? My God, these folks really need to have their heads adjusted! Her divorce has NOTHING to do with why she is in Crawford!

[Al-CIAda]

15. I hear she also doesn't finish her greens at dinner either. nt

[benburch]

16. Be careful!

Or next they will spin that into "Cindy Sheehan spoke out today against vegetable farmers."

[Bumblebee]

17. They probably could and would -- but do remember that we are

in majority now (in terms of how people feel about Iraq) so it's VERY different from 1-2 years ago so who the fuck cares how the voices in the wilderness spin it? We really have to get used to being a majority and react accordingly :)

[smomfr]

18. Someone get a boombox

and play Bonnie Rait´s ¨I´ll Stand By You¨ for Cindy and play it loud.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Just tell the freepers

This is the Cost of Being a Disciple - Luke 14


25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

28"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? 29For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.'

31"Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. 33In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

34"Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? 35It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out.

"He who has ears to hear, let him hear."


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[benburch]

20. They've never read the New Testament.

Or if they have, they never understood it.

[patdem]

21. I see it as proof of the spontaneity of her going to Crawford.

The Sheehans are not rich folk (so they cannot just pay a lawyer to delay the proceedings) and I am sure this has been in the works for some time. The lawyer just filed the papers at the time and place it had been planned for some time. This is just further proof to me that Cindy Sheehan is ABSOLUTELY sincere in what she is doing, because we know it was not something that 'surprised' Cindy, it was planned and agreed upon at some time in the past.

Those cretans are disgusting trying to use this for their hateful purposes. :grr:

[sweetheart]

22. They're just attempting to distract and re-brand "sheehan"

Cindy could use this to the advantage of her cause. She could give a
MSM interview about her marriage, and tell the truth about how casey's
death has changed her life.

This focus on her marriage is just another area for her to exploit if
she wants to. The gloves are off, they're meddling in private lives...
and it will come back on them 100000 fold.

Lots of americans have had marriage problems and failures... and if
Cindy comes from the heart about that, much as with Casey, she'll
create a deepening of her cause, and an increase in momentum.

The pukes are fools... they are attacking sheehan with their adhominem
way of doing things, when they don't realize that she's a tar baby,
and every time they attack her, they will come out weaker for it.

The buddha's of our world are watching over Cindy Sheehan. The
wrath of the forces that defend justice and elightenment will fall on
to all who attack her, that their lives will become bankrupt,
luck will turn sour and they will be broken.

[Vinca]

24. MSM focusing on Cindy's divorce is a diversion from the real

issue and we know they hate covering dead soldiers. Cindy handled the question well on Hardball, essentially saying - rightly - it was none of their business.

[Rich Hunt]

29. it is a real issue, though

It's a threat to anyone who doesn't do what they want. They print this garbage as if to say, "look what we know about you", "we're watching you". It's not meant to be a "distraction", it's meant to be a threat.

[Flubadubya]

26. Shocked by what Soledad O'Brien said...

just now about the subject, and how she said it. She, Carol Costello, and Kelly Wallace were all talking about the divorce on CNN and Soledad had the last word.

She surprised me with this one. She said that partners who have lost a child often end up in divorce and that it is sad and tragic, but basically the people involved should not be faulted or criticized, and how sorry she was for Cindy. She said this with a serious sense of compassion in her voice. I was amazed how sensitively she handled the issue. MSM can really surprise you sometimes.

[SoCalDem]

27. That the divorce was in the works and inevitable, is not in question, BUT

I question the decency of her husband for not waiting a few more weeks/months..whatever. It sounds as if they have no minor children..she obviously is not at a paying job outside the home..they ARE separated due to her mission..so what's the rush??

It sounds to me that his family (freeps?) may have influenced him to act now, in order to try to discredit her.. I know that WE see all sides of an issue, but the way the media frames an issue can and does affect what lots of "simple" people think..

This was a vindictive thing for him to do, regardless.

Shame on him.

[Midlodemocrat]

28. I agree with you.

I think his timing stinks. This woman is the mother of his children. Respect her grief and let it go.

File for divorce, if you must, when this is over.

[johnnie]

30. The reason why they try to discredit Cindy on this is:

Cindy and Pat has suffered something that no one should suffer, and that's the death of a child. To the freepers, that is not a big deal.
If she was a drug addict (Rush), then they would say, "A lot of people get divorced, now is the time to stand by her and hope she gets help for her addiction".
If it was because she was out messing around on her spouse (Ron Reagan) they would say something like "Who are we to judge her personal life, leave her alone".
I could go on and on with the idiots, but it's not worth it.