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oustemnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:50 PM
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Bush saving Do Not Call list: good or bad?
On one hand, it's likely to build a lot of good will for him.

On the other, it's bound to alienate him among the free market uber alles, campaign donations=free speech nutbag crowd.

On the third hand, there's finally something he's done that I approve of.

I'm so confusted right now....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:54 PM
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1. THINK ABOUT IT
why would Bush sign something that goes AGAINST what his corporate buddies want? SCAM.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:57 PM
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3. I like this bill...
because I'm big-time anticonsumerist. One also banning TV commercials would be quite nice. But if you look at the bill, it doesn't really have teeth. Anybody can still call you for 6 months, plus telephone companies and political parties (Republicans) can still call asking for money all they want.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:17 PM
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20. you got it
but Bush gets to play the hero pretending to do something that is oh-so-popular. It astounds me how many DUers are falling for such utter garbage.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:56 PM
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2. I guess the telemarketing lobby
Didn't make a big enough campaign contribution.


rocknation


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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:58 PM
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4. Publicity stunt
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Girlfriday Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:58 PM
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5. Definitely, a feel good move!
50 million people signed up, it was an easy way to make alot of people happy. He is such a sleaze!
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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:05 PM
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6. UMMM that was my thunder!!!!!!!!
NT
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:19 PM
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7. I'd rather there not be a "Do Not Call List"~
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 11:21 PM by Avalon Sparks
Maybe it's because I don't get that many calls and I have caller ID. I've made a point over the last several years not to give out my real telephone number to ANYONE. I've never been one to jump when the phone rings either, if I'm doing something cool I just don't answer it, or even look at the ID box.

I just don't think it's a good time to lose more jobs in this country. There have always been telemarketing jobs and I've had to work them a couple of times to get by, especially in the early, early 90's under Dubya's Daddy.

So many people seem to want it though, so I think that's why Bush is supporting it and I don't think it will hurt him. I think it will be a couple years after the list goes into effect before it really starts to eat up those telemarketing jobs.

WHAT I'd like to see is laws passed preventing cable companies (like Comcast), our credit card companies, and other companies where we usually have to provide a phone number and other info, from selling our personal information to make a buck. That is what really pisses me off. I give them fake phone numbers anway (without them knowing) and advise them to contact me via email.

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:21 PM
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21. a lot of our fellow progressives here ...
find disturbences more important than employment. Go figure because it astounds me that any progressive would want people put out of work as a matter of convenience. They will try to paint is as some heavy privacy issue but it is not: it is an inconvenience.

I guess their position is, "Fuck these people. I don't want to have to move my arm, answer the phone and say 'no' if they are uninterested.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:23 PM
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22. Hey crack dealer are just trying to make a living.
Why do people want to put them out of work?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:19 PM
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8. It's a no-brainer for Bush
is that an oxymoron?

No, really, after the overwhelming vote in both the House and Senate, even bush isn't dumb enough to oppose this.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:22 PM
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9. Don't trust ANYTHING done by a bush
Haven't you people learned anything yet? Do you actually think he's doing this FOR US? There's a scam built into this somehow. I just know it. It may have something to do with collecting data on everyone.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:32 PM
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10. I agree, maybe he signed it because
it makes him look good to the public, and he already knows the courts are not going to allow it.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:31 AM
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11. If it really makes the calls
stop it is a good thing.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:43 AM
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12. 31 States Have No Call Lists
27 now, another 4 scheduled to go into effect tomorrow and another 2 next year. To approve the national list is a "no brainer."

http://www.the-dma.org/government/donotcalllists.shtml
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:47 AM
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13. Bad - Here is why.
Bush will get good publicity out of this, but the courts will kill it and he knows it.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:31 AM
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14. Why do you think that the courts will kill it?
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:44 AM
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16. Because the GOP wouldn't have supported it, if they didn't have an out.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:41 AM
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15. easy political move.
although I agree with the two Fed judges on this...

really glad our names aren't on that master list
right now...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:51 AM
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17. possibly 2 million people will lose jobs over this......
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 10:05 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and most of those will be single mothers who are sole supporters of their children :(...4/5 million are employed by telemarketers...more than half will be let go to start and many more to follow...

just the down side of this deal....hey i hate telemarketers as much as anyone...but this is bad...seems to me to be just another ploy for the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES to create more desperate people willing to work cheap and grateful for any job...or even get them to ENLIST to fight in bush*s fraudulent war....just my $0.02


oh and another thing...these lost jobs will just be made up with pools of Indians....the telemarketers will relocate elsewhere and then what?....will this "no call" list be moot? :shrug:
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srubick Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:55 AM
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18. Free speech issues
The bushman must have been told by now, if he still has any competent lawyers on his staff, that this is an issue that will be decided by the courts. Anything he does now is simply for political purposes. Familiar ground for a man who never questions anything.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:15 AM
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19. kick for the lunch bunch
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 10:23 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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