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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:07 AM
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I seriously think that it may come down to violent confrontations.
The mowing down of the crosses that honor the war dead may be the spark that sets things off.
I am not a violent person but I truly beleive that the actions of the RW/neocons/freepers may escalte to some serious shit that the bu$h administration will not denounce and possibly even advocate. We may need to arm and protect ourselves.
I have just been getting this sick feeling of late.

We may need to "organize".
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:08 AM
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1. Peaceful protest is the only way.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:11 AM
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4. I agree
but the minute they attack with violence I'm gonna stand around waiting to be bloodied or murdered for simply exercising my 1st amendment rights...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:18 AM
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8. Bones break very easily against tanks and other hard objects.
Just my opinion, but I think it would be safer to stand with the raging grannies holding flowers and jars of honey. :)
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 AM
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14. I was referring to attacking freepers
If this nation truly goes Nazi Germany and soldiers with tanks are the ones doing the attacking call me a Mexican.

However I truly doubt the majority of the military would obey such an order....
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:29 AM
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19. Ahh... There are ways to deal with them.
HAHA! :D

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:20 AM
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9. Indeed it is. But we may not have a choice.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:22 AM
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10. I understand...
I'm just sayin'... ;)


;)
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:09 AM
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2. Brown-shirted idiots.
:kick:
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:10 AM
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3. daily kos report Cindy
will be arrested tomorrow.What kind of outrage might this arrest spark??
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:16 AM
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7. Read the latest Truthout entry
http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml

Someone close to Bush's ranch offered property to move Camp Casey there.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:28 AM
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17. WOOHOO!!!
:woohoo:

THIS IS GREAT!!!

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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:55 AM
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22. absolutely great !!!!
its fucking wonderful that a neighbor of the "Great Chimpus Maximus"granted Camp Casey a home for the duration of the Bush-Sheehan stand off...who'll blink first??
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:13 AM
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5. We're with you
There are many types of protests, such as strangling the Bush fascists. Buy hybrid cars and high mileage cars. Spend your $ in the blue areas, talk the kids out of fighting his immoral war. Shut his ilk down.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:24 AM
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13. It is time to seriously think of alternatives.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 02:31 AM by wake.up.america
Do you move out of the country?


Do you move to some out of the way area? Someplace where you can live as you want?

Or do you resist? That might be a bit dangerous.

Listen to me. I am being serious.

Think it over. That truck driver in Crawford is only a start.

Bernie has it right. America is going down the tubes.

Although I think some people are waking up.

As they say in the NFL, it is crunch time.

It will very soon reach critical mass .
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:04 AM
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25. I will not let these neocon bastards run me out of my own country
no f***ing WAY
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:19 AM
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30. you're right
and if the shit hits the fan I feel bad for all the people who are numb. I protested a couple weeks ago at Bank One Ballpark in Phx. with a large group of people. We tried to talk with folks coming out of the game, to let them know about the Downing St. Memo, etc. and it was truly frightening at the waves and waves of people coming straight at us walking across the cross walk with total blank looks on their faces. It was eery! We were chanting, we had huge signs, some people were cheering us, some were flipping us off, and worse...but the majority of people........blank faces!
They don't even know how to think anymore.
Things are getting bad, and even people in the anti-war movement who have been responsible and have kept themselves informed will go into self preserve mode and denial. It's human nature.
I struggle with it myself, questioning, but deep down I know and I feel in my heart that we have only begun to see and feel this pain. It's going to get much worse before it gets better.
I do feel that we will "win" whatever that might mean in the end I'm not sure. And for alot of people on the winning side it probably wont feel like a victory. But I believe our cause is true and just and born of love......so we're already on top.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:16 AM
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6. Exactly what they are hoping for ...
Americans fighting each other, while the ruling elite clean us out.

Someone needs to read a history book.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:24 AM
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12. I agree
it is what they want, and we have been slowly conditioned for a lomg time now for what is happening. But how "above" all this do we have to be, and for how long before we are just trampled by these wild javelinas?
There may come a time when we will be forced to seriously defend ourselves against this "ideology of hate"

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:26 AM
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16. There are ways to do that without resorting to violence.
:)

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 AM
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15. me
I read many of 'em... start with Howard Zinn. ;)



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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:22 AM
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11. Maybe not!
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:29 AM
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18. I hope not.
I'd like to think we the people have learned the bloody lessons of the mid 19th century. However, we the people appear to have forgotten those bloody lessons.
I don't know what's going to happen.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:31 AM
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20. The right wing hate radio -- and Fox TV talking heads
seem to be trying work up their base -- judging from some of the sound clips I've heard from their shows on Air America Radio.

And as much as I don't want to hear the ugly voices of the deranged right -- it is necessary to know about their lies.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:38 AM
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21. No arms!
No guns. No violence. You can't be for peace and practice violence. It just doesn't work.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:01 AM
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24. I am for peace
and have NEVER been violent....except with my words on occasion, but I WILL defend myself and my family, and I think what the original poster is saying is that people should be prepared...just in case.

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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:21 AM
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31. I was talking about
poster #1 :)
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:08 AM
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27. Who mentioned guns -- not our side
I am only writing about the words of hate I am hearing from the media whores who seem to want to start a fight..

READ -- first damn it.

IT has been THEIR side that has been into violence. Where did I suggest that OUR side take up arms -- WHERE.

damn it.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:00 AM
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23. Gandhi's way is the only way.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:09 AM
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28. My bumper sticker says, "I accelerate for Republicans"
And I do.
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