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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:44 AM
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Poll question: Which book/movie best describes our situation????
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:03 AM by garybeck
added film Bob Roberts
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:46 AM
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1. The Road To Perdition.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:49 AM
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2. Tim Robbins' prophetic film 'Bob Roberts' from 1992 seems to
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:50 AM by formerrepuke
predict the current political environment perfectly. Anyone who hasn't seen it will be astonished.. it's like he had a crystal ball and could see the near future as far as the RW Bush-cult is concerned: Dirty tricks, wealthy politicians pandering to average-joe values, equating dissent with treason; it's all there.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:57 AM
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10. I remember when it came out, someone on NPR said she thought it was
way too over the top; so exaggerated, she thought, that it was difficult to take the movie seriously.

I think it was maybe Cokie Roberts (I wouldn't be surprised if it was, anyway). I remember the comment from back when I used to listen to and support NPR.

Whoever said it, that comment has echoed in my mind over the past five years.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:50 AM
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3. High Anxiety.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:52 AM by Touchdown
Where the doctors and nurses at the institute for the very, VERY nervous are crazier than the patients.

Been thinking about this movie a lot lately.:crazy:

EDIT: They made a movie version of Animal Farm? Is it a cartoon or like Babe?
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:58 PM
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33. There are both
the original (British) cartoon version was sponsored by the CIA as anti-Soviet propaganda in the fifties. More recently a Babe style live action version was made but I didn't think it was up to much.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,908925,00.html
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:52 AM
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4. Duck Soup (Marx brothers)
Hail Freedonia!
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:52 AM
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5. Seven Days in May
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:06 PM
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35. Yup, I was thinking the same thing...
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:06 PM by calipendence
Except in this version, Kirk Douglas's character sides with the general to get rid of the president that's about to declare himself a dictator instead of helping the sitting president prevent a coup.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:07 PM
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37. The Handmaid's Tale would also be a good one though...
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:08 PM by calipendence
or if we're including TV series... Amerika!
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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:52 AM
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6. Wars without end
- the modern way of maintaining global economic domination!
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randomelement Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:53 AM
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7. The Dead Zone
If Bush isn't Martin Sheen's character, I don't know who is ....
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:01 AM
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15. Oh' Greg Stillson!
..."Look. I saw a vision of my destiny, and I'll be God Damned if your going to screw it up. Now place your hand on the sensor before I cut it off and do it myself!"

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:19 AM
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47. Hi randomelement!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:55 AM
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8. Used Cars
"I go 50/50 on all the graft I take in."

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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:57 AM
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9. The Emperor's New Clothes
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:59 AM
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13. it's on there
sorry I had the title a bit wrong. I thought it was called "the emporer wears no clothes." I just fixed it. you can vote for it now.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:59 AM
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11. Mein Kampf
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:01 AM by deutsey
Couldn't resist...Actually, I voted for Animal Farm.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:59 AM
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12. Soylent Green 2022 n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:01 AM
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14. oink!
:D

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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:03 AM
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16. Oceania was at war with Eastasia
Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

They attacked us on 9/11, not Eurasia.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:09 AM
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17. Animal Farm: a RW book
yes, written by a LW author.

but the bottom line is that it has been used by the RW to harm the LW.

Or so it seems to me. comments?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:14 AM
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20. What the Right and the Left forget is that extremism=totalitarianism
extreme right wing= Nazis

extreme left wing = Khmer Rouge

The book is about totalitarianism which is why both sides can use it as a weapon against the other.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:02 PM
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34. extremism a useless term
extreme anarchists would have no totalitarianism. Extreme pacifists would probably be rather pleasant to live among.

also, tarring all extremes means you are letting whatever the middle happens to be, act as the definition of "desirable".

in history, that middle has swung all over the place. When Timur the Lame ruled central asia, a pyramid of skulls was the moderate political stance and practice.

In some Pacific islands, throwing a gal into a volcano was what "normal" leadership did. Only "extremists" in the tribe would ever object to it.

toss the word extremist. Useless.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:35 AM
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43. extreme may be relative, but it's certainly not useless
The Khmer Rouge and the Nazi were extreme. Just ask their victims.

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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:00 PM
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61. extreme is useless term .. toss it
In 1850 it was extreme to oppose child labor. Six year old girls pulled coal carts up inclined mine shafts and out of the mine.

So we should not be extreme? Should not oppose child labor?

At times we should be extreme. Ahead of the times. All progress comes by being ahead of the times.

Sometimes extreme ideas are bad. {like Nazis}. Sometimes they are good {like ending child labor}. So the term is useless. It is often used to club progressives.

The real measure of an idea is "does it reduce suffering?"

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:45 AM
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30. I think if you only focus on its critique of Stalinist Communism,
it can be used to tar the Left.

However, if you look at it in its larger critique of how revolutions are often betrayed by its ideological leaders, then I think it attacks authoritarians of any ideological stripe.

As you say, Orwell was LW (a lifelong socialist, I believe), but he detested ideological purists on the Left as much as he did those on the Right.

In 1984, after all, he cites the Nazis and the Soviets as the forerunners to Oceania's totalitarian government.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:11 AM
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18. "Cool Hand Luke"
Bush is Strother Martin, the guards are his cabinet and the rest of us are the prisoners; toiling and slaving away beneath their iron boots of oppresive social/economic policies.

Oh, and I'm Paul Newman!

Gotta get your mind right!
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:16 AM
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32. Who's washing the car? n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:11 AM
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19. Lord of the Rings
bush* STILL needs the last ring.
Lets make sure he doesn't get it.


The Matrix
Which pill?


The Terminator
The scenes from the future. Hi Tech machinery flying over the rubble shooting at rebels (insurgents) with sophiticated weaponry. The insurgents fighting back with beat up pick-up trucks and AK-47s.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:14 AM
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21. "Heart of Darkness" by Orsen Wells PSYCH was never made so
it will have to be "Apocalypse Now" which was the closest thing we will ever get to a serious exploration of the impulse that guides some people to invade other countries and shed their humanity in the pursuit of power---and why the people at home turn a blind eye to what is being done in their name abroad.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:17 AM
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22. Red Dawn....our country is invaded by Christo-fascists intending to
eliminate all those who truly cherish human rights and freedoms.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:17 AM
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23. The Road Warrior
Well, before too long it'll be like that, anyway.
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:22 AM
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24. BRAZIL!!
that movie so creeped me out when i watched it a coupla years ago.

second place would be bob roberts.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:24 PM
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60. I second...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:26 AM
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25. Okay, it's a TV show, but
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:33 AM by Minstrel Boy
Twin Peaks.

You don't think the Black Lodge exists?
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:32 AM
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53. My favorite TV show of all time!!!
I think I would have a heart attack if I bumped into the actor that played BOB in real life!!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:33 AM
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26. THEY LIVE
C'mon.Really.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:38 AM
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28.  I can see that
seriously climate change, sublimal programming, thought control, class warfare, and self sacrificing heroes.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:36 AM
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27. The lord of the rings triliolgy
Especialy since aaragorn was at camp casey a few days ago.
Seriously though all the parts fit it's just not in one neat package.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:41 AM
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29. Catch 22 [NT]
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:51 AM
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31. Ship of Fools
n/t
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nothometoday Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:06 PM
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36. The Dead zone
It is ...................To close for words.............
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:21 AM
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48. Hi nothometoday!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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earthmama Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:10 PM
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38. This is pathetic but I swear I am in a life time movie.
If there isn't already one that is telling my story then I need to sell my story to them. ( wonder how I do that?).

I have alot of in law problems. they think I am weird PLUS they are wacko
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:10 PM
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39. Starship Troopers...
The way Paul Verhoeven shows the fascist state we become there, no matter how much it was an attempt at satire at the time, seems frighteningly real now!
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:56 PM
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40. It Can't Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis seems about right, if seventy years too soon. For a movie, I would go with Brazil.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:03 PM
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41. Been down so long it looks like up to me. n/t
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:08 PM
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42. "The Pelican Brief" by John Grisham
I swear it's prophetic about SCOTUS.
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nicehuman Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:38 AM
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44. Manchurian Candidate
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:21 AM
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49. Hi nicehuman!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:42 AM
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45. Decline and Fall of the Roman Republic
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:42 AM
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46. The Matrix and Matrix Reloaded.
The country hasn't gotten to Matrix Revolutions...yet.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:25 AM
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50. Inherit the Wind, Paths of Glory and Network all at once
Inherit the Wind, Paths of Glory (with Bush and Cheney being the french generals sending the troops into the impossible mission while living in their lavish palace) and Network all at once
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:30 AM
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51. oh... I forgot Dr. Strangeloveand Three Kings
N/T
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:31 AM
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52. and Citizen Ruth
N/T
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:34 AM
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54. The Marching Morons
- C M Kornbluth
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:39 AM
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56. When I see "March of the Penguins" poster out there...
I keep thinking of "The Penguin" Karl Rove due to be "frog marched" soon...
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:35 AM
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55. Lord of the Flies
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SuperWonk Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:16 PM
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57. Inherit the Wind
...that's all your getting.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:18 PM
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58. Wag The Dog
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:22 PM
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59. soylent green
mega-rich, mega-poor... earth polluted as shit, corrupt police state
with the poor poisoned from the food supply. Women are "furniture"
and belong to houses, with neo-slavery well entrenched.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:08 PM
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62. Gundam Wing
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:58 PM
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63. Apocalypse Now
N/T
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:39 AM
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64. A Very Long Engagement
with us being the french in WW1
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