Discussion of attacks on Sheehan coming up on MSNBC (5:32)

[Armstead]

Ron Reagan just promoed upcoming segment on Connected talking about attacking the messenger rather than paying attention to the message, regarding Cindy Sheehan.

[maxsolomon]

1. this is on AMERICAN television?

actually discussing logical fallacies?

will wonders never cease?

[TomInTib]

4. Larry the Trucker just made BBC n/t

[Armstead]

2. On now

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. Anything to report?

[Armstead]

5. Reagan says she's not leading public opinion....

She reflects what many people are feeling.

David Horowitz a guest...also John Nichols.


Ooooo this could be good

[Armstead]

7. John Nichols

Attacks on her "speaks of desperation."

She's not alone in speaking out. There aregreat many parents of soldiers who have died who have spoken out.

[shaniqua6392]

6. Ron Reagan said

Cindy Sheehan has not led the public opinion, she has followed public opinion. Oh boy, Monica brought up how we have a voluntary military. I guess that means that we can send them anywhere in the world to fight in illegal wars.

[Armstead]

9. David Whore-owitz

Nothing out of Sheehan's mouth that respects what her son did.

This is an anti-American movement...blah,blah,blah. His usual Commies are taking over schtick.


"She's a hateful person with a hateful message who wants America to lose.'

[Armstead]

11. Ron reagan is pissed at Horowitz

[faithnotgreed]

8. good for ron - its just as cindy and others have said

how does the press scrutinize her yet still allow the lies of the president to continue unchallenged

[shaniqua6392]

10. I hate Monica Crowley

She just lets people ramble on and on. I love when she gets the day off.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

14. Horowitz is really attacking Cindy in a very nasty way. Name

calling, said she thinks her son "Casey is stupid," puppet for the left wing, this attack is so over the top that it is unbelievable. The worst part, there will be sheeple who thinks this guy actually knows what is going on.

These guys have absolution no shame what so ever.

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. "We don't care! We don't care!" Imagine if we had shouted that

outside Terri Schiavo's hospice?

[SoCalDem]

17. We don't care!..Horowitz is an idiot

[City Lights]

18. Also said he wouldn't speak this way about her if she had shown

any respect for her son's military service. :eyes:

Lies are the lifeblood of the right.

[yankeedem]

30. Do I even need to ask what Horowitz

was doing when he was military age? He WAS in the military, right?

[City Lights]

32. He looks and clucks like a chicken...

...don't know for sure though.

Ron really put him in his place and the end of that segment. Bet if you look closely in and around Davey's chair you'll find an egg. :evilgrin:

[yankeedem]

35. David Horowitz bio, surprise, no military experience!

I guess he was only a liberal when it was convenient to keep him out of prison.

"Horowitz, who grew up in New York City as the son of two lifelong Communists, earned a Bachelor's degree from Columbia University in 1959 and a Master's degree from the University of California at Berkeley in 1961. Horowitz quickly became a leader of the New Left. During the '60s, Horowitz edited Ramparts Magazine, an influential left-wing journal.

In the 1970s, dissatisfied with the tragic consequences of radical politics in America and abroad, Horowitz withdrew from politics. He and his partner Peter Collier then co-authored a series of bestselling biographies of prominent American families: The Rockefellers: An American Dynasty (1976), The Kennedys: An American Drama (1985), The Fords: An American Epic (1987) and The Roosevelts: An American Saga (1994). For these works, the Los Angeles Times called Horowitz and Collier "the premier chroniclers of American dynastic tragedy." In 1978 Horowitz was honored with a Guggenheim Fellowship, and in 1990 he received the Teach Freedom Award from former President Ronald Regan. "

[Ilsa]

20. He called her hateful, and I bet he's never even met her.

Must be nice, to sit up insulated somewhere, and call her names because he doesn't agree with her. I bet he wouldn't go see her, either. He and Monica looked pretty desperate, IMO. They are calling the withdrawal from Vietnam a mistake, so you know how stupid they are.

[Cornus]

12. David Horowitz

Is the one who is an evil person...what an absolutely obnoxious AH!

[Sparkly]

19. Absolutely, and I'm glad Ron Reagan didn't respond to him.

"I don't know if you want to dignify any of those remarks with a reply; I don't."

[Armstead]

13. Ron: Tide is shfiting away from war"

Nichols -- People coming to realiuzation that democracy as sold in war is not the case.

Republicans moving against war too.

[Armstead]

15. Reagan and Nichols a contrast to hateful Horowitz

John Nichols is being very clear but reasonable in contrast to Horowitz's ranting about anti-American Sheehan

[Armstead]

21. Horowitz -- "These people throw such mud at the US"

Sheehan has treated her son's life as nothing. A hateful woman with nothing but hate for her country.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

27. Reagan just slapped Horowitz down good. Horowitz said "if I

had a son in this war" and Reagan interrupted him and said "but you don't do you? You don't have a son in this war, you haven't lost a son in this war." Horowitz practically stroked on Ron about then.

Horowitz caught his breath and just kept spreading the lies. Ron told him you are doing no good for your side. You don't know Cindy Sheehan, you can't read her mind, etc. Horowitz is a crazy, vile, hate spewing jerk.

Thank god the interview is over. I can't believe our country has sunk this low that a MSM outlet would give this jerk a minute of air time.

[Spike from MN]

38. I only caught about 10 minutes of the show but I saw that part.

That was so great! With one simple little question, Ron shut Horowitz up but good. Horowitz never recovered after that and pretty much just stammered and stuttered through the rest of the interview.

Ron is always fair and reasonable but I think today he was pissed. He usually doesn't interrupt people (at least, that's my impression from what little I have seen of the show) but he made sure to jump in and call out Horowitz on his spewage. Actually, I'd like to see him do that more as I think he's a little too quiet on the show. Seems he doesn't want to stoop to the level of the Repugs though and I can definitely appreciate that. The show would be sooooo much better if they would ditch that Monica bitch and just have Ron host it. I'd watch it a lot more often if they did that. As it is, I rarely tune in because I can't stand Monica but I lucked out today and caught a right-winger getting his ass handed to him. ;)

[City Lights]

22. Whore-o-whiz now repeating same things he said in 1st segment.

The RW well of lies must be running low.

Rambling on about Vietnam...

[fedupinBushcountry]

23. GO RON

He got Horoshitz good. :woohoo:

[ewagner]

25. How?

What did he say??? :shrug:

[fedupinBushcountry]

28. Ron said

but none of your children served or volunteered, something on that line. Then Horoshitz started sputtering his words, Ron was pissed.

[ewagner]

29. Thank you!

I can't watch from the second story here.....

[karlrschneider]

24. Horowitz should fucking PRAY I never meet him.

The goddamn chickenshit bastard.

[librechik]

36. I interviewed himlast year. He is only 5 feet tall.

I could have pounded him, but I was perfectly professional. He said I betrayed my liberal bias when I called him a conservative!

Bastard. In retrospect, I shoulda pounded him.

[karlrschneider]

37. Well, if I ever get next to him, he'll be THREE feet tall.

...
Not a threat, just a promise.

[City Lights]

26. Whore-o-whiz says he's lost friends to the left.

The left killed them. :crazy: This was in response to Ron nailing him about not losing any of his own children to war.

He's a certified psycho.

[Catrina]

31. Is he another chickenhawk?

He is old enough to have been in Vietnam, isn't he? Was he there? He has children, yet none of them have ever served?

Why is someone as clearly crazy as Horowitz allowed on television? Is it that the right has no one sane to put out there to make their case?

I'm not complaining. I try to tell people how bad they are, and many people have not seen these people.

I gave a friend the URL to FR the other day, because I got tired of trying to tell him how nuts these people are. He nearly threw up after reading through it and said 'Omg, these people are certifiable'. All I could say was 'I told you so, now tune in to hate radio for a while, if you have the strength'.

So, imo, put them all on television. Let them rant and talk about killing the mother of a dead soldier, expose their chickenhawk status while they scream about sending other people's loved ones to their wars. They are our best advertisement of why people should never, ever vote Republican again, until that party gets out of the grip of the radicals that have hi-jacked it.

[City Lights]

33. Watching wing nuts on cable usually sickens me,

but you're right, every time they open their mouths they show the world how wacky they are. Facial expressions are so telling...crowly and whore-o scowled and raised their voices in anger when trying to make their points. Whore-o got very red-faced at the end.

Ron and John Nichols were calm and reasoned. :-)

[Sparkly]

34. [e-mail]

Drop a line; tell them having a nut like Horowitz ranting on their show is irresponsible at best.