CNN Cancels Dobbs Hysterical...Says Worm Attacking Internationally...

[KoKo]

Blitzer and their "Techies" are in OVERDRIVE...yet MSNBC/FAUX have NOTHING about this... NO OTHER CABLES AFFECTED??? yet they yammer on and on and on and cancel Dobbs when no one else is having a problem.

:crazy: Can any of you DU Techies help me with this? What the Hell is going on?? :eyes:

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[Walt Starr]

2. CNN got hit with a worm and are now going overboard

The reason they got hit with a womr is they use old unpatched operating systems, which is idiotic.

[Renew Deal]

12. In their defense

The patch just came out last week and they probably have thousands of servers to protect.

[Walt Starr]

16. If their network architecture is done correctly

they could have isolated it easily.

Plus, the biggest spreader is the workstations and they should have been patched automatically upon release of the update.

[Renew Deal]

19. Isn't idealism great?

[Walt Starr]

23. I do this for a living

If I had an outbreak this widespread, I'd be standing on a corner selling pencils from a tin cup.

[Renew Deal]

32. So do I.

A company the size of CNN should be protected. They should invest in that kind of protection, but it's very expensive and not always easy to pull off. Patching a couple servers is no big deal, but it's much more difficult when you have many servers running many apps that need 24\7 uptime. Of course, an outage like this is extremely embarrassing for the reasons you mentioned.

[Walt Starr]

34. The cost of a single outage like this outweighs the cost of implementation

of proper measures.

Somebody in CNN IT needs to be better at expressing ROI, but then again, preventative measures generally only get the attention of executives after an event of this nature.

[blondeatlast]

21. If my hubby had let that slip by, he'd be a greeter at Wal-Mart.

His company is similar in size to CNN and international on a grand scale.

He took care of it pretty easily.

[BiggJawn]

59. Who's their IT contractor? IT@P?

Hell, they can't even keep the University employee's SSN's safe...

[jim3775]

3. Windows 2000 has a major security flaw...

it was patched 5 days ago but someone at CNN royally screwed up.

[tridim]

8. Then THAT should be the breaking news

"We fucked up". End of story.

[mtnester]

15. My little itty bitty server and little bitty office got patched right away

I knew about it, why did the techies at CNN not?

SOMEONE will lose their job...heck, if it were me and I were their boss, I would fire them myself.

[tocqueville]

18. don't they have firewalls at CNN ?

[blm]

4. Funny, since MSNBC is aligned with Microsoft. Aren't they using

their software?

[skids]

9. Yeah, funny...

...That they would report a worm that affects old versions of windoze... sales promo for upgrades and McCaffey?

[Moochy]

17. MS runs hotmail on Unix servers...

After being forced to try a trial run of Hotmail served on NT servers, they were unable to make it work at the same efficiency, so they never implemented the switchover from unix to PC's running NT. This may have changed now, but I kinda doubt it. Unix OS's are built for scaling and serving gigglebytes(tm) of data efficiently. NT while it can be configured lean & mean generally it is installed with default configuration, and often with hackable services running.

[abandoned]

46. It looks like they have switched

At least according to http://hotmail.com">netcraft.

[Moochy]

57. they could be proxies :)

I guess if you get enough hardware in there, you can compensate for any slow OS or slow app. :)
:tinfoilhat: now that I think about it, these could just be 2003 servers running as proxies for linux. :tinfoilhat: j/k

[tridim]

5. Sensationalism?

Turning a 1 minute story into major breaking news? They have the power and they're running with it.

[kittenpants]

7. maybe all the real news is locked up in their computers?

you know, all the good stories about missing brides & stuff.

[NNadir]

49. Maybe the missing WMD are in their computers. They were so certain

they existed.

[DeepModem Mom]

6. Actually, Lou's on -- but he's covering the computer situation. nt

[BootinUp]

10. AOL left them a present.

apparently, lol.

[HootieMcBoob]

11. only cnn seems to give a damn about this..

no one else seems to be reporting on it, let alone giving it non=stop coverage.

[jim3775]

14. This is pretty minor

I have been checking my computer security incidents report mailing list and so far nothing.

[Renew Deal]

13. MSNBC??? That stands for MicroSoft NBC.

Don't forget that.

[Draill]

20. I was watching CNN...

until that (and many other) cable channels went off. It's really weird. Some things, like History channel and FoodTV, even BRAVO are still on. Many other channels, all cable news, music channels, shopping channels, sports channels, etc are all off. I wonder if it's connected? My cable company is Comcast. Anyone else have this going on?

[Theres-a]

22. Welcome to DU!

I'm gonna go check my cable now.:hi:

[mcscajun]

25. Sounds like a local problem...

...I'm in NJ on Cablevision, and all the channels are working.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. welcome to DU

[Draill]

33. Thanks for the welcomes!

I won't worry too much about my cable, I've been getting all my breaking news from DU for over a week anyway! :)

[KoKo]

24. They JUST switched to Dobbs just now...is this an "old" Dobbs show? and

hubby and me were switching channels to Networks trying to find some support CNN HYPER/HYPE and we were flummoxed that NO ONE ELSe was reporting their problems.

Jaysus...I live in a Ludlum novel....there's such a disconnect. Did I see what I saw on CNN which delayed Dobbs show with CNN "techies" blathering on about Germany and Japan being hacked and Tech Blogger info on forever?

Did I have a "brain lapse" a "synapse" and this NEVER happened. Was Bliztzer on "OVERTIME" announcing "TERRA WORM THREAT?"

:eyes:

[KoKo]

26. CNN's Joe Johns says that Senate Computers affected by Worm...on Dobbs

Good GAWD...only CNN is hyping this. What the HELL is going on???

[satya]

30. Hey, maybe CNN and the Senate are on the same network! :-) nt

[satya]

28. Dobbs now reporting Capitol Hill computers also affected. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. This is a cyber attack folks

a full fledged one

[jim3775]

35. Please don't say that, CNN is all hype

Here is the latest report from the Internet Storm Center

"CNN Worm; Feedback from Microsoft; Reader Mailbag; Johannes Redux; Apple Security Patches

CNN Worm

CNN is heavily covering an outbreak of a worm in its own network. They are reporting that ABCNews and NYTimes are hit as well. All statements so far make this look like a Zotob variant, even though this variant appears to reboot the system. (Zotob.d ?).

Likely this is an isolated event, which became newsworthy because CNN got infected. We do not see any new threats at this point. Zotob keeps mutating and finding new victims. As seen with prior TCP worms, it is reaching its peak around 3 days after the outbreak.

Speculating: The fact that CNN, ABC and the NYTimes got it may be as simple as reporters from these organizations visiting the same event and connecting to an infected network. While a firewall may have protected their office network up to now, these infected laptops where able to take out the network from the inside once they connected back to it."

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Well I am wathicng them they are funny,

yuo can see all the problems on the screen.. that said.. it is a cyber attack, magnitude unknown at this pint, but any of these toys IS a cybler attack

Just becuase you and not I got muged does not mean you were not attacked if you get my drift... oh and I have no sympathy for CNN by the way

[DeepModem Mom]

31. Lou actually worked in a pretty good story on Cindy, and the crosses. nt

[KoKo]

40. I thought he was EXCELLENT..with Dana...and I'm not a Dobb's Fan....

the pictures from "Camp Crawford" with the "mowed down crosses and flags was incredibly better that what Whore Blitzer showed on his "nod to the Liberals" coverage on his CNN "Situation Room."

AND, Dana gave links to Ben & Jerry's site and others as part of the package. Plus there was a photo of the Toad who ran the crosses over and coverage of the folks trying to get Sheehan off her 6 x 8 plot of land.

They left out that Cindy has been given another plot of land and some other stuff...but given that they reported and showed "favorable pix" at all is a good step forward.

I don't trust these Cable Whores...but I try to praise them if they at least "try to be fair." Knowing that they will turn on us like snakes if Bush has a one point tick up in his polls the next day. :-(

[lebkuchen]

42. Is Lou Dobbs a vet?

No matter. The jack-booted thug who took down the crosses is lower than a snake's belly in most Americans' eyes.

[jim3775]

36. I got an incident report. Disney is down.

Every Disney World, Land, Corporation employee is being sent home because of this.

[LittleClarkie]

37. Koko, constructive criticism

don't try to get so much in the headline. It's coming out disjointed and a bit incoherent. This is the second one today I had trouble deciphering.

[KoKo]

38. What's the other one?

:shrug: I'm cooking dinner and trying to juggle all this "Living in a Ludlum Spy Novel Stuff." Maybe I sound disjointed...will try to do better...what's the criticism, though. Specifially, that is. ???:shrug:

[LittleClarkie]

41. Well, this part

CNN Cancels Dobbs Hysterical...Says Worm Attacking Internationally..."

CNN Cancels Dobbs Hysterical? Who's hysterical? Dobbs? CNN? There should be a verb in there, maybe.

It just comes out sounding surreal. Took me a minute to figure out the worm part.

Something like "CNN cancels Dobbs, gives bogus reason" would be more understandable, then explain in the body.

[KoKo]

48. Well...just so you know "Sane Hubby" watched it with me and thought

that all of it was "totally bizarre." LOL's so if "I" sounded bizarre it's because CNN's coverage of this was totally bizarre. They took a half hour out of Dobb's show to show their "CNN Techies" trying to do
Terra Worm Alerts" and switching back and form from German and Japanese Blogs to verify that this was a "Nationwide Problem" and that the "only way to deal with this is to "turn your computer off."

My hubby (the sanest man on the planet as far as I'm concerned walked into this and was as fascinated by the "spin" as I was...and I was cooking dinner..).

Only saying I had that damned CNN on for the whole show from 5:00 p.m. on until when Dobbs makes his "appearance" and it was "INTERNET TERRA ALERT!" that they canceled first part of Dobbs show for and they had their two "techies" going into great detail about how we users of "Win 2000" should all be heading for hidey holes.

My questions was: "Who in the hell on CNN or the Stock Market or the Government is back on "Win 2000?"

Given that I'm a Neandertal who still uses "Win ME" and my Business Guy Hubbies is an "XP" Fan, I wondered why CNN was spending all this time about a "Win2000" Problem?

It went on and on and on...and hubby and me are looking at each other in disbelief about what the CRAP Blitzer is going on about. We keep "channel surfing" and we don't see the usual hysterical Cable Suspects like MSNBC or FOX even talking about it!

It was a total disconnect that Blitzer is in a frenzy and no one else is.

That's why I posted what I did. I hope this explains it...but I doubt anyone has time to even read this VERY LONG...and maybe Boring post..

But, I did try to explain...:shrug:

[LittleClarkie]

50. Ah. I don't get worms

the wonders of Macintosh :D

[KoKo]

51. Ahhh....let's all clap hands here for "Apple."

Is that what your posts were all about? Seems to be that you were your own "worm." :D....

[LittleClarkie]

52. No, I used to be a journalist and I am now a proofreader

It's not a grammer nazi thing for me. It's about expressing yourself so that you are understood. If someone wants to be stylistic about how they express themselves, it's all good. But when understanding suffers, that's bad.

You're not normally like that. It was alarming.

[KoKo]

54. I did correct Neanderthal, just now.

I hope your dinner was as good as mine was, tonight. When one cooks and posts and watches CNN one does often have some disconnects...but maybe you wouldn't quite get that. :D

[LittleClarkie]

55. Are you still putting me on ignore?

I'm sorry. I guess I was being a proofreader Nazi.

Guess it's time to up the medication.

[Holly_Hobby]

43. Didn't MS just force

people to download a spy tool to verify their OS isn't bootleg? Hurry, update, update!

[Tyranny_R_US]

44. Virus my ass

This is the same news company who would cut their feed whenever someone opposing would come on in 2004

[Bluebear]

45. Where is my duct tape? nt

[KoKo]

56. OMG...ain't that the truth...going back to "Homeland Security." Bushies

must have that "duct tape" all over the WH by now shutting and zipping mouths. I wish more people had seen the CNN Bizzaro fest. I don't watch them except when something BIG happens like what went down with Cindy today...but it seems few saw Wolfie's Bizarro performance with "WORM TERRA ALERT."

I almost wish I hadn't posted about it. Was surprised that DU Techies weren't crawling all over this doing a "dubunking."

But, who knows these days...what's Up is Down, What's Down is Up...we all could be living in Alice's Rabbit Hole for all I know. :shrug:

[KoKo]

47. CNN either had a Major Screw Up with this story, or they are paid

by anti-Microsoft People. this whole thing was BIZARRE! Focusing on Windows 2000, FGS.. Trying to imply that CNN and the US Stock Market was still using 2000 was beyond the pale.

Now...I'm NOT a techie and still use WinME and if Microsoft and the techonogy would have let me...I'd still be using Win95..But even THIS clueless DU poster thought that CNN was totally "out of control" with their hysteria over this. I usually look to MSNBC if I wan't car wrecks, gas tanker wrecks, and terra hypes.

What the hell was going on on CNN and when I came to DU it seemed that NONE of our Techies were in the least concerned.

:tinfoilhat: What the Hell was up with CNN tonight?

[Kelvin Mace]

53. You'd think another white woman disappeared in Mexico

the way they are carrying on.

[KoKo]

58. More on the Computer Virus Outages UPDATE here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1706682