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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:07 PM
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Center For Faith-Based Reasoning offers alternative to Newtonian Physics
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 07:09 PM by BurtWorm
KANSAS CITY, KS—As the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Founded in 1987, the ECFR is the world's leading institution of evangelical physics, a branch of physics based on literal interpretation of the Bible.

According to the ECFR paper published simultaneously this week in the International Journal Of Science and the adolescent magazine God's Word For Teens!, there are many phenomena that cannot be explained by secular gravity alone, including such mysteries as how angels fly, how Jesus ascended into Heaven, and how Satan fell when cast out of Paradise.

The ECFR, in conjunction with the Christian Coalition and other Christian conservative action groups, is calling for public-school curriculums to give equal time to the Intelligent Falling theory. They insist they are not asking that the theory of gravity be banned from schools, but only that students be offered both sides of the issue "so they can make an informed decision."

"We just want the best possible education for Kansas' kids," Burdett said.

Proponents of Intelligent Falling assert that the different theories used by secular physicists to explain gravity are not internally consistent. Even critics of Intelligent Falling admit that Einstein's ideas about gravity are mathematically irreconcilable with quantum mechanics. This fact, Intelligent Falling proponents say, proves that gravity is a theory in crisis.

"Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."

Critics of Intelligent Falling point out that gravity is a provable law based on empirical observations of natural phenomena. Evangelical physicists, however, insist that there is no conflict between Newton's mathematics and Holy Scripture.

"Closed-minded gravitists cannot find a way to make Einstein's general relativity match up with the subatomic quantum world," said Dr. Ellen Carson, a leading Intelligent Falling expert known for her work with the Kansan Youth Ministry. "They've been trying to do it for the better part of a century now, and despite all their empirical observation and carefully compiled data, they still don't know how."

"Traditional scientists admit that they cannot explain how gravitation is supposed to work," Carson said. "What the gravity-agenda scientists need to realize is that 'gravity waves' and 'gravitons' are just secular words for 'God can do whatever He wants.'"

Some evangelical physicists propose that Intelligent Falling provides an elegant solution to the central problem of modern physics.

"Anti-falling physicists have been theorizing for decades about the 'electromagnetic force,' the 'weak nuclear force,' the 'strong nuclear force,' and so-called 'force of gravity,'" Burdett said. "And they tilt their findings toward trying to unite them into one force. But readers of the Bible have already known for millennia what this one, unified force is: His name is Jesus."
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:09 PM
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1. Is this from The Onion?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:10 PM
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3. Well
;)
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:10 PM
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2. Eh, they can all go intelligently fall in the lake!
:rofl:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:12 PM
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4. But that would happen only if God's hand forced them down
Otherwise they wouldn't fall. They would walk on the water, like Jesus.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:21 PM
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10. See? FBF is the superior theory. It can account for Jesus
walking on water while regular physics can't. Surely even the scientists have to admit that the better theory is the one that accounts for more data.

(Snork.)
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:21 PM
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11. If God doesn't feel like smackin' the RWers down, I'd be happy to help.
Not drown them, you understand, just make everyone see that they're all wet. ;)

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:14 PM
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5. We just want the best possible education for Kansas' kids-----oh my.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:15 PM
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6. Holy crap, Peter Griffin was right! Christians dont believe in gravity!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:16 PM
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7. Sad. Truly sad.
Can't explain every facet of the physical universe? Just credit Jesus, go home and make more Republican babies.

As I've said before, just sheer intellectual laziness. People fall down, but sparks rise up. Just brilliant. You deserve a Nobel Prize for Physics, asshole.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:19 PM
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8. Snookered.
Hook, line and sinker. Hats off to you, Burtworm! That'll teach me not to read the link.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:38 AM
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12. Sorry about that, chief.
;)
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:21 PM
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9. They hate us for our gravity.
I just knew it! Our God's gravity is better than their God's gravity.

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