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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:41 PM
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Torture Story... Iraq
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:45 PM by lonestarnot
"This is barbarism"

"Why, even if I was guilty, would they do this?"

By Carol D. Leonnig

Sami Al-Laithi said that as a result of his detention at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, he is now confined to a wheelchair with two broken vertebrae. He said military personnel and interrogators stomped on his back, dropped him on the floor and repeatedly forced his neck forward soon after his arrival at the prison.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9778.htm

http://snipurl.com/gytu



Also read LAB 257 by Michael Christopher Carroll for U.S. Torture on our own military with use of sarin gas (VX Nerve Gas) Bio used on our own navy to test the effects. Also use of poison tick on Plum Island with Lyme Disease. Plum island is just east of Long Island Nueva York!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:50 PM
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1. I have an observation to relate....
There are pics of GITMO detainees kneeling in a gravel area behind chain link fencing.

They all somehow have brand spanking new orange jumpsuits on. Were they issued the same day? Never washed? I think these guys are treated horribly, and they needed new duds for the pics so the blood and tears (rips) wouldn't be seen.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:52 PM
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2. From what I understand most of the torturing was done w/o clothes!
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 11:04 PM by lonestarnot
ie rape and lewd and lascivious acts against minors etc...
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:58 PM
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4. one more reason the duds look new.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:05 PM
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7. I wouldn't be surprised
If they had the suits on they wouldn't call it torture.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:57 PM
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3. Here another one!
By Robert Fisk

"I told the American officer: 'You have killed the innocent and such things will lead the people to destroy you and the people will make a revolution against you. You said you had come to liberate us from the previous regime. But you are destroying our walls and doors.'"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9761.htm

http://snipurl.com/gytw
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:04 PM
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5. Thank you (sigh)
:cry:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:06 PM
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8. While McCain pinches his brow, the administration continues to escape,...
,...any accountability for having created an lawless environment where the most fucked-up form of barabarianism is enouraged. America has been damned by her own leadership.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:05 PM
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6. Oh gosh
:( I hate all this. It's all so heartbreaking and horrible. :cry:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:10 PM
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9. This is why we must fight on long and hard!
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:59 AM
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10. "Monster Island"

New York’s Plum Island is a level-4 bioresearch facility. What exactly is going on there?

.....


Located just two miles off the tip of Long Island and six miles from the Connecticut coastline, Plum Island is home to a Bio-Safety Level 4 (BSL-4) research facility. The only comparable government facilities in the country are the United States Army laboratory at Fort Detrick, MD, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Plum Island is specifically engaged in the study of zoonotic diseases. Zoonotic diseases are diseases that can be transmitted from animals to humans, like West Nile, like Lyme disease. Like Ebola.

In 1954, the research took a more aggressive turn, with scientists looking to cook up ways to inflict damage on Soviet livestock. The Cuban government alleges that in the 1960s and 70s, bioweapons developed at Plum were deployed against Cuban agriculture, targeting pork, tobacco and sugar cane. Back in 1999, Floyd P. Horn, administrator of the Agriculture Research Service, persuaded President Clinton to include Plum Island in his expanded bioterrorism program based on the possibility of a biological attack on the nation’s agricultural base. Last year the administration of the island’s research facilities was transferred from USDA to the Department of Homeland Security.

.....

Coincidences, it seems, abound at Plum.

lots more

http://www.nypress.com/17/11/news&columns/feature.cfm


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