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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:23 AM
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Tinfoil - CNN has "Situation Room" at Northcom days before "nuke drills"
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Separately, Mother Media also learned that CNN recently launched their military operations news special "Situation Room" from inside the NORTHCOM situation room in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Wolf Blitzer is the show's hawkish host. Imagine that - a new CNN "Situation Room" military focus news program debuts in NORTHCOM headquarters days prior to a nuclear terror drill. Where's the separation between the press and the government? CNN makes it painfully obvious that they are a propaganda mouthpiece.

Adding to the drama, the four-star commander of the Army's Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at the Fort Monroe base where the nuclear terror drill is to occur, Kevin P. Byrnes was just relieved of his command amidst allegations of sexual misconduct. Veteran investigator Greg Szymanski has uncovered another plausible motive:

"Sources close to the military who remain anonymous said Byrnes was part of a U.S. military faction discontented with the Bush administration war policies in Iraq and the potential for a nuclear disaster in Iran.

http://www.physics911.net/nuclearterror.htm
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CNN - Situation Room at Northcom

But Wolf, explain to our viewers "THE SITUATION ROOM" and the concept here, because you and I and other reporters have had to report from the situation rooms a number of different kinds -- a number of different situation rooms, from the Pentagon to the White House and elsewhere as we've covered the world, whether it be a war or it's a situation involving, you know, NORAD and U.S. Northcom in Colorado Springs.

Let's explain to our viewers what this means with regard to showing them what this means for them politically, militarily, national security.

BLITZER: Well, our concept was relatively simple. I had spent almost eight years as our senior White House correspondent. Whenever the president, any president, has a crisis, he goes into the situation room in the West Wing of the White House. That's where he can communicate with all his top commanders, with all of his senior advisers. They get the incoming teleconferences, the video, whatever they need. The latest intelligence is brought into the situation room.

At the Pentagon -- I used to cover the Pentagon -- they have the national military command center, so called war room.

At the CIA, they have operation centers, the State Department, all over Washington, all over the world.

Our thought was, "Well, we have incredible news gathering capabilities around the world. Let's bring all those capabilities together, bring them into our 'SITUATION ROOM,' show our viewers in a very transparent way what's going on, how we find out what's going on and get it on the air at a time of day between 3 and 6 p.m. on the East Coast where news is still developing, news is still influx. It hasn't yet gelled. It isn't pretty, necessarily.

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/05/lol.03.html


Why is Wolf / Govt stooge / CIA puppet / taking us to Northcom for his

"situation room".... is he expecting something?

Connect the dots.....


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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:27 AM
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1. Add a dot - Northern Command drafts US City "scenarios" --- Wash Post
washingtonpost.com
War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S.
Domestic Effort Is Big Shift for Military

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 8, 2005; A01



COLORADO SPRINGS -- The U.S. military has devised its first-ever war plans for guarding against and responding to terrorist attacks in the United States, envisioning 15 potential crisis scenarios and anticipating several simultaneous strikes around the country, according to officers who drafted the plans.

The classified plans, developed here at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of possible roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at as many as 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could easily grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

The possible scenarios range from "low end," relatively modest crowd-control missions to "high-end," full-scale disaster management after catastrophic attacks such as the release of a deadly biological agent or the explosion of a radiological device, several officers said.

Some of the worst-case scenarios involve three attacks at the same time, in keeping with a Pentagon directive earlier this year ordering Northcom, as the command is called, to plan for multiple simultaneous attacks.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR2005080700843_pf.html
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:32 AM
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2. They plan to use "Guradsman" to round up people
"It could be a challenge for the commander who's a Guardsman, if we end up in a fairly complex, dynamic scenario," Keating said. He cited a potential situation in which Guard units might begin rounding up people while regular forces could not.

The command's sensitivity to legal issues, Gereski said, is reflected in the unusually large number of lawyers on staff here -- 14 compared with 10 or fewer at other commands. One lawyer serves full time at the command's Combined Intelligence and Fusion Center, which joins military analysts with law enforcement and counterintelligence specialists from such civilian agencies as the FBI, the CIA and the Secret Service.

same was post link above
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:52 AM
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5. Guardsmen -- yep these are the ones that murdered students -- Kent State
To be a college student and hear that other college students were murdered by draft dodging National Guard -- makes me not want to trust the National Guard ever.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:53 AM
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7. they have to...beucase it cannot be US soldiers
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:38 AM
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3. Another dot ... the "worm attack" affecting media the other day
If TPTB want to restrict news and information...

My tinfoil hat is getting a "bit tight".
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:44 AM
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14. Didn't just impact the media. Business corps, not media, generally
don't like to publicize when they get hit. In this case, the media gets hit and makes a big story out of it.

Patch for the vulnerability the worm exploits has been out since last week. Aug 12 article from Internetweek discusses the vulnerability and that people were working on exploits to take advantage of it: http://www.internetweek.com/news/168601347
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:41 AM
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4. I am imagining a few "scenarios" myself...
Living here in Durham, NC...I'm happy my sweetie is far away in the Mountain timezone this week.

Given the acts we KNOW these ruthless scum have committed already;
NOTHING they do would surprise me.

A nuclear blast in SC would be the best "Early Chrismas Present"
these folks could dream of...

Martial Law would be declared,
and that whole "Democratic Process" thing would be suspended FOREVER...

Too tempting for them to NOT do it!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:52 AM
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6. remember "the plant" that made the talk shows about nuke bombs in cities?
It was some older professor...and he made Coast to Coast , then Savage the next day...

never giving his sources or anything...just allowed to plant the feat that terra is coming

IF something happened you will have people talk about those suitcase nukes....quite a "co-inkydink".
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:12 AM
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9. You refer to those "suitcase nukes" which are a paranoid fantasy...
...according to the current administration?

Nevermind that I have seen the former Soviet Union's #2 "Nuclear Overseer"
on tape, saying quite clearly FOR THE RECORD:

A: He oversaw the folks who designed a 40-pound,
"large-briefcase-sized" nuclear bomb;
he reviewed their blueprints,
and gave the approval to begin building them.

B: That particular Soviet "special nuclear design-group"
which he oversaw
eventually constructed "approximately 100"
of the aforementioned devices...

C: Sometime during the "breakup" of the Soviet Union,
about 80 of those devices "went missing".


THOSE "suitcase nukes"? Nawwwwww, that's crazy tinfoil-hat talk, right?

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:59 AM
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8. major string of dots --US is heading for a controlled collapse -- READ
why?

* the US is the worlds largest debtor

* our soc sec system is going belly up at some time

* medicare is going bankrupt

* 43 million americans w/o healthcare

the real issues are the $$$$

* our trade deficit cannot improve with constant rising oil prices and we import more oil each year

* which means we must "devalue our dollar"

* which means inflation

* which means high interest rates

* which means "housing bubble" will burst

* which means americans "nest eggs" and debts will be extremely high
in a collapsing market

* which means we can't spend as much ... and consumers are 70 of GDP

* which means the US is going down even IF we were NOT ATTACKED


BUT....an attack makes evertyhing explainable to the sheeple
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:14 AM
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10. Where exactly does it say it's IN Northcom?
It's at CNN studios. Only Szymanski has been saying the studio is physically located at Northcom. The transcript you link to doesn't say that (that I can see).
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:40 AM
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12. Wolfie took you on a "tour".... they have a "situation room" in Northcom
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:05 AM
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15. Every HQ has a "situation room"
under this or another name. That CNN should be using military terminology for its operations is lamentable, but that's CNN for you. Maybe they feel they're at war with Fox.

If you see my posting history, I wear my tinfoil hat wrapped tight. But this is bull, IMO. Szymanski is not a credible source, and I have seen no confirmation that CNN's "situation room" is indeed located at a military command center, Northcom or elsewhere.

It's quite another thing to remember that CIA disinformation operatives were once "training" at CNN, a few yers back. So maybe CNN has a cozy relationship with spooks and the military. Maybe CNN is a patsy for the military. This still doesn't mean they would be allowed inside Northcom.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:13 AM
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18. I saw the show...they took you on tour... I think it was a "test"
why in the hell would they waste time there??

but now they have it all set-up for when they do need a "secure location"
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:20 AM
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11. CNN's show isn't a "military operations news program." Have they even
seen the show? It ain't the kind of show the first article claims it is.

Yesterday the "big breaking news" was CNN's computers rebooting. Live on TV.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:41 AM
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13. why do they feel the need to be close to Northcom????
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:06 AM
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16. Have you actually seen CNN's program? Give it a look & see for yourself.
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 06:12 AM by Garbo 2004
"Close to Northcom?" You really think they're broadcasting the whole show from Northcom? They took a tour of real sit rooms apparently. To hype their show and razzle dazzle.

I saw that promo for the show live that was in the transcript and Wolfie was talking up the show. When I had the show on what I saw of it was a snoozefest. See the excitement here on the show's page on CNN's website: http://www-cgi.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/

Babies on the no fly list. Live from Northcom, ya think?




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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:11 AM
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17. no...the first day was from Northcom... I saw the show
the rest of the show are simulated "sitaution rooms"...

but ..they gave it a test (transmission issues to test???)
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:34 AM
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19. Here's one more dot for the pot: AR 210-35
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:01 AM
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20. Another dot? Charleston police chief steps down
I've been following you "foilies" out there. Aug 17 and Charleston, SC, right? I hope its all crazy talk but there's not much I wouldnt put past this administration.


Aug 16 -- CHARLESTON Reuben Greenberg, the city's first black police chief, stepped down after 23 years in the job today, citing health reasons.

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/12397423.htm
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:16 AM
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22. Now this
is scary.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:11 AM
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21. They're just trying to make a silk purse
out of a sow's ear.

BushCo is having a real hard time getting their Armageddon on. Too many people have gotten hip to their game.

So now instead of a black flag operation they are trying to switch gears. Instead, they'll make this a made for TV event. So like watching a horror movie, even though you know its not real, you can still scare the shit out of enough people to give them nightmares and at least get some bang for their buck.

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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:26 AM
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23. I don't know about Northcom
But the show is the Inflation Room to me. :puffpiece:
It is all glam entertainment, of course when they get a war on, they will be right there to see the schools and sanitary systems rebuilt after dubby blows the sh*t out of everything.
:nuke:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:32 AM
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24. Coincidence?
In recent years, Colorado Springs has attracted a large influx of Evangelical Christians. Evangelical groups with headquarters at Colorado Springs include Focus on the Family (a Christian organization active on many social and political issues), Compassion International, The Navigators, Youth with a Mission, Young Life and the International Bible Society.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs,_Colorado
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