from a $3 balance to $90,000 Crawford Peace House

[no_to_war_economy]

listening to the replay last night of Mike Malloy ... Cindy was talking about how when she got there, the peace house had a $3 dollar balance and now it is $90,000.00

THAT IS NOT ENOUGH

if you haven't donated yet, please give 5, 10, 15 or just a buck!



edited to fix dollar amount, one too many zeros in the cents

[AverageJoe]

1. Yes

I made my small donation and I've felt good about it for days.

[tyedyeto]

2. Donated late last week.

Felt good to do it then and I may give a little more this week.

To everyone at the Crawford Peace House: Keep up the good work.

[movie_girl99]

3. don't forget when mailing a check

to put all 9 numbers of the zip code as per the Peace House website.

[LiberalUprising]

4. KICK for PEACE!

[no_to_war_economy]

5. kick for cindy

[SoCalDem]

6. I hope they have a good tax lawyer.. It would be a shame

if they get into tax trouble due to the donated $.. There are enough wackos out there who will try to stir up trouble for them, and I hope they are prepared.. Remember how they went after Andy when we donated to him?? That was minor compared what they will try to do to Cindy & Peace House.

[Midlodemocrat]

21. I think they will be okay.

I believe they are registered as a 501(c)3.

[riverwalker]

7. address here

Monetary donations are needed and can be sent to:

Crawford Peace House
P.O. Box 710218
Dallas, Tx. 75371-0218

[Generic Other]

8. Thanks for posting this!!

Great news for all!

I posted a link here:

8/16 All DU Cindy threads DAY 11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4376753

[Mad_Dem_X]

9. Donated $25 last week

So awesome that they went from $3 to $90,000!! :kick:

[GliderGuider]

10. As the hunter said

when his Eastern European friend was eaten by a large grizzly bear:

"The Czech is in the male."

[Mr_Spock]

11. I'm thinking of donating again

What do you guys think?

[Diamonique]

13. What Do I Think?

I've donated twice already, and will probably send more on my next payday.

[Junkdrawer]

12. Didn't Cindy ask that we fund local pearce organizations now that...

Crawford Peace House and Gold Star Families are flush?

Here in Pittsburgh, PA, I'd suggest The Thomas Merton Center:

http://www.thomasmertoncenter.org/

[no_to_war_economy]

14. i would NOT stop donating yet .... keep it coming until

* ends his vacation .... SWAMP them with cash

imagine if they bought some land close to the pig farm

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[K8-EEE]

15. Anybody Who Questions If This Protest Is Effective...

that answers it! This stupid ass war started in Crawford to benefit BushCo and it will end with the American People speaking through the Crawford Peace House and telling Bush: YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!

[Horse with no Name]

37. Welll.....

at least he can't hide in Crawford.:)

[Generic Other]

16. kick

:kick:

[loverevolution]

17. I am sure I will get flamed but...

If they have $90,000 why do they need more? What is the point of collecting a huge sum of money? Shouldn't they be using it for the protest?

Joan Baez is coming and needs a stage set up. They could hire more bands, or at least pay for their trip there.

Cindy said that they need tarps. I would think $90,000 pays for alot of tarps. She, and everyone supporting her, should have everything they need. Isn't that what the money is for?

Why aren't we taking a cue from the idiot anti-truth protesters and chartering buses for people? The idea is to get as many people to Crawford as possible, isn't is?

[no_to_war_economy]

18. you think the peace house is gonna sit on 90,000 ???

OF COURSE they will use it for anything and everything related to camp casey

you know these fat lazy liberals will just live off the interest of 90,000

have YOU donated yet?

[loverevolution]

19. Why haven't they rented a van or motorhome for Cindy?

"Camp Casey coordinator Ann Wright has issued an appeal. The van that has been used recently to accomodate media interviews is being called out of service and there is now an immediate need for a replacement. Anyone interested in loaning or providing such a van for use by Sheehan should call Wright at 808-741-1141. She explained that this need is somewhat urgent."

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/33news13.htm

Why did Cindy ask for tarps?

[theHandpuppet]

20. Maybe you should go down there and find out, huh?

I WAS there and if you've ever had to stand out in 100 degrees of blazing sun all day, with torrential downpours threatening you at any moment, you'd know why they need tarps. They aren't staying at the Crawford International Conference Center, you know.

Is there anything else you wish to add to the conversation?

[KarenInMA]

22. Wow! I don't think he was saying they don't need tarps..

I think the point he was making IS.. that's an awful lot of money. What are they doing with it? His suggestion was: Buses.

Understand that the Other Side will make hay with this, "The Crawford Peace House will do anything to keep the money flowing in", is the nicest thing they'll say.

no fighting.. :hug:

[no_to_war_economy]

28. no it isnt alot of money

the point of the post is WOW look at how much we have raised and WOW just imagine how much MORE we can raise

no hugs for loverevolution

[KarenInMA]

30. sigh

But what are we rasing the money FOR. look, even the very best causes can have careless logistics personel. I think Loverevolution just wants to make sure the money is spent in the best possible way.

I know that's my concern.

[no_to_war_economy]

32. i have been in the Crawford Peace house

it is no more than 1000 sq feet, its a dump

I want a palace built on that land, they can have GOLD plated toilets for all I care, they are in the belly of the beast, they need financial security and cindy sheehan will give them that

[KarenInMA]

33. Can't you see the problem some people have with that?

No one should be profiting off of this protest but the people who sell anti-bush t shirts.

look, I want them to have all the money they need. I donated as much as I can right now, but I want to see the money people send in used for the best possible use.

Also, I don't want to give the freepers ANYTHING ELSE to open their filthy maws about.

[BeTheChange]

39. www.gsfp.org

Front page: Better yet, click here to make a donation to help us spread her message, and persuade President Bush to honor Cindy's plea.

Go click there, I did...

By the way, I do agree with you.. as unpopular as it is..

And yeah, those who wish to bash me because of it, I did donate to the Peace House, a whole *load of my time and energy.. so I get to have an opinion.

EOM.

[Kingshakabobo]

23. Have YOU donated?

Come on, fess up.

[no_to_war_economy]

27. cindy will NOT and should NOT stop asking for assistance

if they buy EVERYTHING they need, the 90K is gone fast

did YOU donate yet?

:mad:

[faithnotgreed]

26. anarchy1999 also suggested people donate to tonkawa falls park

in crawford they have the tonkawa falls park that is in dire need of help
the town doesnt have the money to do this and so the park is in some need

this was brought up because people wanted to thank crawford for all its doing to help support this cause
so anarchy spoke with kay (perhaps from the peace house?) and suggested if people want to donate to thank the people of crawford that one good way is to donate to clean up/maintain this park

just a thought im passing along

[NoSheep]

36. This is really an EXCELLENT idea! You should email the Peace House

:bounce: Giving back to Crawford would not only be the right thing to do...but it's great PR!

[faithnotgreed]

41. i think its a fantastic idea as well - i cant pm anarchy because

the profile has been disabled

but before i post a thread about it i need more information incl how people can donate to this

if you see anarchy around please let her know we would like to coordinate this or at least pass along the specifics to everyone here

[NoSheep]

43. Could part of the money being donated to the Peace House be used?

[anarchy1999]

45. I'm here. I've been thinking about it most of the day and was waiting

to see if there was any more response. I think if we want to follow through we should send the donations for the City in Care of The Peace House so that it can be delivered by Kay (director of) and Hadi, Johnny and Cindy and maybe a DU'er. Also by sending through the Peace House we will be able to keep track of what is collected and given to the City of Crawford.

Just my thoughts.

As to the bickering about how the money is being spent I'm pretty tired of it. I've known them for several years now and trust me the checks are being written fast and furiously covering all different kinds of expenses as they arise on a day to day basis. I'll check in with Kay re buses, but it's really not like they are easy to find in Waco/Crawford, believe me, I was the one who did the research last Friday.

As to we should be shuttling people who are coming from Austin and Dallas and so on and so forth. They are scrambling for volunteers to take care of everything as it now. Too bad we can't just manufacture us up a couple 3 or 4 drivers.

Thanks everyone for everything you all are doing.

Just heard from another DU'er, they are providing a RV for Cindy to use, will be arriving tomorrow or Friday.

[anarchy1999]

49. To late to edit above message, but here it is:

on edit:
I know for a fact that families wanting to come and needing help to get there are being assisted. I picked up a mom and her 2 daughters last Thursday from Boston under just those circumstances. They were not going to be able to come and then expenses were paid and they made the trip.

Every evening they are holding a meeting on needs and meeting those needs and believe you me they change from hour to hour.

Also I have not wanted to post this but I'm going to go ahead. Here's is my understanding of what is happening with monies collected. All needs to support Cindy are being taken care of and when Cindy leaves if there is anything left she is going to leave it to the Peace House as a thank you and to help keep the Peace House going. We still have a few years to go and many more protests!

[Lisa]

52. that's terrific!

That way, the renovated park would be a continual reminder of the positive things that Cindy's actions accomplished. I've heard reports that the Peace House people are trying their hardest to minimize impacts (cleaning up trash, etc.) but this would really send a message. It would also help counter right-wing complaints that liberals are a bunch of rich elitists who won't help people in need unless it benefits them directly.

Count me in! Just tell me how to donate.

[anarchy1999]

53. I only get to talk with Kay early in the mornings before she leaves for

the House, she suggested this idea this morning when I called her to say there was talk of collecting donations for equipment for the high school football team. I'll talk with her in the am, but as I said above I believe it would be best to filter through the Peace House allowing for us to know the sum given and so that credit is truly given where credit is due. If checks just start flooding city hall with donations how could we be sure of what and from whom, would the city ever shoot straight about it?

I wish you all could have heard the conversation. She said hmmm, you know what the City of Crawford really needs help with?

No, what?

They really need help fixing up the park at Tonkawa Falls. They've had to close the old building where the restrooms are, you know the one, right?

Yes.

Now that would really knock their socks off.


I've spent several different Saturday's there and she is right. The park could really use some help and Lisa, it would allow a lasting pleasant reminder of when we all came to town in August of 2005. If I remember correctly the building and the park was a WPA project and it really is a beautiful little place. The falls are very nice.

So, I'll talk with Kay in the am if you all really want to get behind this and see how she'd like to see it handled.

In regards to spend thriftiness, just this morning she was talking about how she is one to always squeeze the last penny out of a nickel and bargain shop and this has been a rather frustrating time because of the immediacy of some of the needs that come up daily, she doesn't get to bargain shop and find the best deals as much as usual. She has helped Johnny to keep the Peace House running on an absolute shoestring since it was founded and there are no two more honest people on the planet than these two.

I hope that all DU'ers take the opportunity to find her and give her a hug and tell her thank you. She deserves it.

[Lisa]

54. presenting the city with a large sum, all at one go ...

Would likely have more of an immediate impact than the arrival of many small donations, spread over weeks or months. As you say -- it's easier to keep track of (and for officials to notice). Plus, they could start the work right away, without having to wait for all the money to arrive.

I can only imagine the conversation! You guys are geniuses! This genuine support for the town shows up the Karl Rove style of PR for the empty spin that it is.

A small "Renewed In Memory of Casey Sheehan" plaque, if it's possible to place one near any WPA documentation, might also be nice?

I'm confident that my donations so far are being used in the most effective way possible ... I haven't had the pleasure of meeting or corresponding with Kay, but I know people like her -- they seem to be able to keep organizations running on, not even shoestrings, but cast-off butcher twine and rubber bands. (We've joked that if they ever got a chance to run the government, they'd manage to feed and clothe the entire country AND put the budget into the black so quickly ...)

As you noted, they are probably agonizing over not being able to get the best deals because they need a lot of stuff, right away ... but I trust their judgement entirely. I've been in that kind of situation myself, and it's always a balancing act, between "how much does it cost", and "how soon do you need it?"

[faithnotgreed]

61. thanks lisa for helping this conversation continue

i have just logged on today but if you know anymore specifics about donating to tonkawa falls park please direct me

just let me know what i can do to help make this happen

[Lisa]

57. Tonkawa Falls pics

http://www.crawfordtx.com/photos_area_2.htm




http://www.crawfordtx.com/photos_area_1.htm

[NoSheep]

58. This makes me so happy.Thanks to all who are taking care of the logistics

I wish so badly that I could be there to take the lead on this and let others attend to more pressing issues. I believe this is very important. I know one thing I can do. If it comes together and those who can give, will...and the funds are certain to go toward restoring the park ( or any other Crawford community need-but I like the park) I will flood every media outlet possible with the news. That I can do. I have no money. We are both unemployed at present. we are educated and experienced, so soon, we WILL be okay. Thing is, I can't afford to come to Crawford and I can't donate. But as long as they don't "turn the current off" as my mother used to say, I will type my fingers off to get the word to the world that we give a damn about people, no matter if they don't give a damn about us.

[faithnotgreed]

62. hi friend ~ thank you for encouraging this

if you know any specifics about donating to the park (in thanks to crawford) please let me know

i would like to help keep this going but am not sure of the "logistics"
thank you again

[faithnotgreed]

63. thank you sherry - whatever we can do to coordinate this is great

i understand we can send funds to the peace house to be forwarded for the park restoration
and im completely happy to do that

i was just wondering if there was a way to coordinate it or should we just go ahead on our own and make individual donations

coming from you would likely go further than any of us
so if you want to post a separate thread (if you havent already im just logging on now today) that would be great

thanks so very much for all you do and of course the peace house
never ever a question about them i would trust them with any of my money and i dont even know anyone there

all our best and our thanks

[anarchy1999]

65. Morning all. I just talked with Johnny (founder of CPH)

I wanted to clear this through them before we started anything.

Johnny asked for us to hold off until this afternoon. In the past the only department that would accept anything from the Peace House was EMS dept (the mayor and city are not fond of us). He is meeting with the gentleman in charge of the park this afternoon and he will get back with me, Johnny said he would love to see it happen if they will only accept.

Johnny asked me to express his sincere appreciation and heartfelt thanks to everyone here that have been helping. It has really meant alot to him and to the Peace House in their efforts to help Cindy and Camp Casey.

Thank you from me as well. I'm so proud to be a part of such a great community of caring individuals.

[NoSheep]

66. Thanks for the update anarchy1999. I'll check back in later on.

[faithnotgreed]

67. we are so grateful to them ~ cant even imagine what it would be like

for cindy and everyone if they hadnt already been there but it was no mistake was it

so we will just sit tight until we hear more from you
perhaps then you can post a separate thread and i will keep it kicked so the others interested can see it also

thank you so much
and even if they dont accept the money im sure the cph can offer an alternative that will let crawford know that we do appreciate whatever their support has been and that we definitely come in peace!!

[Lisa]

68. this'll be a long-term effort

Since it's not an ultra-urgent matter (next to organizing the camp move, accommodating new arrivals, and all the stuff that the Peace House people have on their plates right now). No probs. Once things have settled down a bit, we can keep on thinking about how to do this. Just to echo what earlier posters mentioned -- with so many visitors in town, and uncertainty about how long they'll be staying, city officials are probably a bit edgy right now. Perhaps they'll mellow out a bit once they realize it's not the end of the world, and that everyone means well. (My town is fairly liberal, and we're set up for lots of tourism, but even so -- if we had a large number of people arriving for a protest, the council would likely be a bit standoffish too.)

A longer timespan for the project means we could approach veterans' groups, gardening clubs and businesses, etc. -- besides being good for the fundraising, a broad coalition would demonstrate that this wasn't political point-making but a genuine desire to help the community as a whole.


Here's a nice article I found, about Lady Bird Johnson's efforts to beautify communities. She believed strongly in this kind of thing, and for sure she wasn't a troublemaking hippie/communist!

""Ugliness is so grim," Lady Bird Johnson once said. "A little beauty, something that is lovely, I think, can help create harmony which will lessen tensions.""

"Lady Bird also saw her beautification projects as helping soothe the nation at a time when the Vietnam war, civil rights and other highly charged political topics fomented division. Lady Bird believed that a cleaner, more beautiful country could calm people and bring them together."

http://www.pbs.org/ladybird/shattereddreams/shattereddreams_report.html

[faithnotgreed]

70. thank you lisa - heres to an incredible group of people

in this long term effort

thanks

[NoSheep]

71. We can do this together when the time comes. I agree with the idea that

at this moment, it is a perfect idea, but not urgent. I hope Cindy's mom will be okay and she will be able to return soon. America needs her.

[faithnotgreed]

72. right on to that

we will do this together

[Raksha]

60. Well, duh! Why doesn't the chief pResident of Crawford, Texas

donate the money for the upkeep of the park if the town doesn't have it? Why did he ever allow it to fall into disrepair in the first place? Oh, wait...

Re >>in crawford they have the tonkawa falls park that is in dire need of help the town doesnt have the money to do this and so the park is in some need...<<

I'm not saying Peace House and/or Camp Casey shouldn't donate the money, but there is something very ironic and revealing about it if they do.

[Lisa]

69. precisely! :)

If there is to be a commemorative plaque, wouldn't it be lovely to have Casey Sheehan's name on it, as a permanent reminder? (Even if his team did think of this, it would take quite a bit of goading to get Mr. Bush to come through with the funds, I suspect. He likes trees and waterfalls, but if they're not on his private property .... not as much.)

This would be a legacy that everyone could enjoy, not just the special friends who are invited to the Bush spread!

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35. I think they should keep collecting money, but funnel it mostly

toward chartering busses, like you say, and getting the protesters tarps, and other things they need. I was a little taken aback, myself, that the Peace House, which will only be in the hometown of the (p)Resdident for three more years, paid off its mortgage with the first $40,000. I couldn't really understand that. But, I think that collecting money is good, and that that money should be used to get as many people down there, as possible.

And, message for those who always think that someone has to donate to have an opinion: BULLSHIT. That's not an argument, that's an attempt to not have to make an argument. Someone always shows up on donation threads and plays pay-at-the-door opinion police. What if I said that because you don't have a star by your name, you shouldn't get to voice your opinion on DU?

I, myself, would like to donate to the person who donated the land, as I think that that is probably the single most important thing that anyone, next to Cindy, has done. It's getting the protesters out of the ditch, and was a very gracious act. So, if someone could provide me with that link, I'd appreciate it.

[BeTheChange]

44. I wish I could nominate a reply as the greatest one Ive read all day :)

Thank you.

[anarchy1999]

46. THE PEACE HOUSE HAS NOT PAID OFF IT's MORTGAGE with the

1st $40,000. I ended that rumor last night.

As to the owner of the ranch, thank yous are being sent to him in care of the Peace House.

Peace everyone.

[Cats Against Frist]

48. Thank you for clearing that up

I hadn't yet heard that it was simply a rumor.

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[Horse with no Name]

38. I don't think the peace house should pay for charter buses to get

people there.
If a military family needs assistance, then by all means, help them.
But unlike the other side--we don't need "paid" bused in protesters.
One of the greatest parts of this is the fact that people are getting there! They are carpooling--other foundations are furnishing rides...but they are going.
I think it diminishes the message if the peace house basically paid people to be there. I think they can do better than that with their money.

[BeTheChange]

40. Id love to see that..

Id love to know that any military family that wants to go can afford to be there.

[frictionlessO]

50. Sensible and smart post... thank you for pointing that out.

I'd really like to see that happen actually.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. GOOD

and this has been in fives, tens and twenties, this irriates the right wingers to no end

[LSK]

25. who do I make a check out to?

Crawford Peace House?

[Rainscents]

29. You can donate your money at this address...

Crawford Peace House
P.O. Box 710218
Dallas, Tx. 75371-0218


Someone here last night was complaining about Crawford Peace House used $40,000 to pay off their mortgage. I think it was freeper pretended to be liberal and he only had 3 post. Anyway, he was trashed with major DUer's attacking him and I myself was very upset with his post and I donated again and many others did too.

[LSK]

31. thanks

I saw that post last night. Nothing these thugs try suprises me anymore. Its really sad how so many people in this country are lowlife scum.

[ronnykmarshall]

34. Donated $157.35

Within the last week.

[musette_sf]

42. I donated on line last week

whilst on business in Dallas. Then called some of my friends while waiting for my flight home at DFW, and talked QUITE LOUDLY about my donation.

One of the gate attendants (a gay man) became very, very nice to me after that. The other two (straight women) gave me overt dirty looks for the rest of the time I was at the gate.

I could not get to Camp Casey, but I helped as I could.

[Supply Side Jesus]

47. just dontated $10

wish it could be more.

[frictionlessO]

51. Please nominate this thread. (for obvious reasons)

especially if you read the whole thread.

[AnnieBW]

55. Was Gonna Give My Winnings to Cindy

I was going to give my winnings from my Las Vegas trip to Peace House. Alas, Lady Luck wasn't with me, even for a good cause. I wound up losing money. So, I Paypalled $100 to Peace House. If my husband and I can p*ss $75 down the toilet in the form of slots, we can give it to a good cause.

[anarchy1999]

56. Thank you AnnieBW and welcome to DU.

How did you find DU?

[Binka]

64. Hey Friend I Got An Email From Kay Johnny & Hadi

This morning thanking us for the stuff and getting it there so early. How is the food situation? And could they use some beer? I have a connection to the spirits industry. Let me know.
Peace & Love

Binka

[NoSheep]

59. Good for you AnnieBW. I love Americans!

:toast:

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