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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:53 AM
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RWer on Abu Ghraib photos
"Release them all, sell a DVD with them, make a movie.

Then, finally, we can say as one, "that's what they're complaining about? That's all that happened?"

Boo Hoo, I had to wear a dog collar. Get over it! Maybe you should thought about that before you fired that RPG or rigged the IED.

Little kids being raped? Where are you people getting this? Tin Hats R Us?"
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:55 AM
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1. Didn't Rummy say these photos are pretty repulsive?
If that crackpot found them offensive, they must reeeeeeeealy be bad.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:56 AM
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2. But he didn't say he ordered them to be taken. Cause that
would cook his goose for sure.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:16 PM
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13. I think I remember
reading a comment from a former Clinton aide who said stuff like this comes from the top. Is that true?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:13 PM
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12. Generam Myers said the Pics-Video's would kill more US. troops
incite riots. The poster has his head up his butt!
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:00 PM
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3. Woof!...there's a smart one...
really thought that on through didn't he?

Probably culminated that opinion after a six pack and listening to Michael Savage while lying on the floor naked smeared in burger grease.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:01 PM
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4. Think he'll say the same when a glowstick is shoved up his ass?
Or how about a broomstick?

Or maybe when he's thrown to the ground and beaten...TO DEATH!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:02 PM
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5. Hey, it only happens to people who deserve it!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:08 PM
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6. Doesn't matter 70-90% were INNOCENt (According to MILITARY officials)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:10 PM
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7. He'll never consider conjurblog a solid source, though *frustrated*
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:12 PM
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8. Oh, I was referring to the Red Cross report which was based on...
military officials.


Still, even then, they'll just deny, deny, deny.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:13 PM
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11. If Faux doesn't report it, it didn't happen
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:20 PM
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14. Kinky Rave (glowstick up the butt)
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 12:33 PM by Moochy
See the abuses at Abu Ghraib were like a kinky rave or a frat party gone a bit wild! :sarcasm:
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:12 PM
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9. I'm 'getting it' from Rumsfeld and Graham, numb nuts...
"NEW YORK So what is shown on the 87 photographs and four videos from Abu Ghraib prison that the Pentagon, in an eleventh hour move, blocked from release this weekend? One clue: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images: "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe.” They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added."

From Editor and Publisher
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000990590
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:13 PM
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10. Wait and see
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 12:13 PM by FreedomAngel82
Once the public knows the truth it will be disgust all around. I think we'll all be surprised and disgusted.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:35 PM
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15. "That's all that happened"?
Gee, I remember a time when the United States fought against mad regimes that tortured and killed innocent civilians. I wonder why your right wing friend hates America so much that he wants to degrade it to the level of tin-pot dictators?

By the way, the child rape report comes from Sy Hersh. Ask your friend why he thinks the government is seeking delay after delay in releasing the rest of the photos and the videos (!) of what's been going on in our name and with our tax dollars.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:50 PM
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16. we have got to make sure these pics come out
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:19 PM
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17. And another RWer chimes in
"Thats total nonsence. One guy got killed and while that was a bad thing you have no proof of the aligations you are making. I have asked you to provide even a link to where you are getting your information but yet you get away from it and continue talking about scenerios that you can't even provide the smallest amount of information for."
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:56 PM
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18. Making some progress here
"I am sorry to tell you this but how can we believe this article is true. Not saying that SundayHerald is lying but do you think that this witness might say anything to make Muslims mad at America? While he maybe lying and he May not be, It is hard to beleive that if this did happen that not one Soldier stood up and said something. I know if I had been in this group I would have said something and I have to believe that someone else would have too. While the pictures that were released were bad nothing that I have seen or heard points to anyone being raped."
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:57 PM
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19. Just want to point out that this post illustrates one of my key beliefs
about RWers. They generally are decent people and are so SURE that others, esp the leaders they voted for, are just as good as they are.

This is why I know I will never win my Pastor's wife over. She will always believe that ** is a good Christian man because she sees him as an extension of herself. And she IS a very good woman.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:02 PM
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20. what website are you quoting from?
are you having this conversation with someone?

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:24 PM
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21. ChristianForums online, conversing with a few someones.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:26 PM
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22. are you telling them
that that is not "all that happened"?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:28 PM
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23. I posted this article from last year
"Iraq's Child Prisoners"
http://www.sundayherald.com/43796

It could get pulled, though. That site is known for censorship and booting people off for wrong-thinking.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:23 PM
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24. thanks for the article
I was thinking about the one on Editor & Publisher in the past few weeks. You've probably seen it: "Pentagon blocks release of Abu Ghraib images: here's why" by Greg Mitchell. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000990590

It's all very disturbing. I even know a lot of democrats that refuse to believe anything more happened than the naked pictures shown on 60 Minutes and such. They don't want to believe Americans could do such things.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:26 PM
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25. Thanks. I knew there had to be something more recent.
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 03:29 PM by GreenPartyVoter
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