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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:17 PM
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So I've never read any Chomsky, with what book should I start?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:19 PM
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1. A good start would be _Manufacturing Consent_, imho. (n/t)
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:20 PM
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3. Good choice
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 06:22 PM by salvorhardin
Also, see the documentary on Chomsky with the same name.

Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005Y726

On edit: Forgot to mention that one half of the team that did this film also produced The Corporation.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/fullcredits
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:21 PM
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4. Great Documentary
Very well worth the view.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:21 PM
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5. Free Speech TV shows that documentary fairly often
I taped it. If you get that channel, it's a good watch.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:25 PM
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11. Definitely one of the best I've ever seen
Saw it when it came out at Rochester, NY's Little Theater. A wonderful little arts/progressive movie house.

Something else I forgot to mention. The documentary can be downloaded from http://www.chomskytorrents.org
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:22 PM
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8. an introduction:
here
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Manufacturing_Consent.html

There is a documentary that goes with the book. (or the book is a transcript of the documentary).
As far as i know it may be freely copied and it is available on the internet.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:19 PM
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2. I Suggest "The Manufacture Of Consent"
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 06:20 PM by Tace
It's a great place to start.

On Edit: "Manufacturing Consent" may be the correct title.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:22 PM
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6. Language and Thought
Start with what he has written in his field of study to get a good sense of his style, then move to MC, etc.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:27 PM
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13. Totally agree..
Start with linguistics.. and then move on. I think to truly get what genius Chomsky can be at times, linguistics is the root.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:22 PM
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7. Thanks, hitting the book store on my lunch break tomorrow...He's
worth reading right?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:22 PM
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9. you bet
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:24 PM
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10. For Reasons of State
with that new intro by Arundhati Roy -2003 edition.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:27 PM
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12. Don't start with a book. Start with videos
like Power and Terror, which we have right now from Netflix, or Manufacturing Consent.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:29 PM
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14. What Uncle Sam Really Wants - FREE online ---------- ------- > LINK
Table of Contents

* Editor's forward
* Source material

The main goals of US foreign policy

1. Protecting our turf
2. The liberal extreme
3. The "Grand Area"
4. Restoring the traditional order
5. Our commitment to democracy
6. The threat of a good example
7. The three-sided world

Devastation abroad

1. Our Good Neighbor policy
2. The crucifixion of El Salvador
3. Teaching Nicaragua a lesson
4. Making Guatemala a killing field
5. The invasion of Panama
6. Inoculating Southeast Asia
7. The Gulf War
8. The Iran/contra cover-up
9. The prospects for Eastern Europe
10. The world's rent-a-thug

Brainwashing at home

1. How the Cold War worked
2. The war on (certain) drugs
3. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
4. Socialism, real and fake
5. The media

The Future

1. Things have changed
2. What you can do
3. The struggle continues
4. Notes

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html

short and devastating

psst... pass the word ;->

peace
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:30 PM
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15. Nice!
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:32 PM
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16. Low-res versions of some of these videos are available online
If I can find a link I'll give it to you.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:37 PM
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17. Try this:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:39 PM
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18. he's got some good stuff, mentioned above BUT
ignore his efforts to describe computer -human verbal interfacing and understanding of human conversations or commands. His theories were way off base and set back that science for a good ten years.

It wasn't until current practices started up that speech recognition and oral commands began making an impact.

I understand that the latest generation versions are incredibly sophisticated, measuring content, even dealing with puns.

"Your ewe and you're you, are you? U are for unusual?" can actually be recognized and dealt with.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:02 PM
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19. Suggestions
"Manufacturing Consent" is the classic. The film of the same name is a brilliant introduction to Chomsky's ideas and I would recommend that to the casual reader. Similarly, the more recent film, "Rebel Without a Pause" is a good primer.

Also, consider listening to recordings of his lectures. His debate with Richard Perle (where Chomsky demolishes the "intellecutal" darling of the neocon right) is required listening IMO.

http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=8409
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:11 PM
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20. Perle of the PNAC?....I am in now!
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:31 PM
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21. free reading
A lot of Chomsky's writings are available for free online at ZNet and also chomsky.info
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