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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:38 PM
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Fish or Cut Bait! - Send more TROOPS and then we will win.
some say - AAR folks right now - putting more boots on the ground will win the war... so how many do they think we need to KILL before we will win?

:shrug:

peace
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:42 PM
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1. It's not about winning. It's about training police to make sure the
people are safe. It's about making sure the water and electricity are working and plentiful. Then we can leave.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:06 PM
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4. "iraqi people are safe" - zactly - so imagine how much SAFER they'll feel,
when the BIG GUNS & TORTURES go home :think:

psst... pass the word ;->


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peace
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:43 PM
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2. How many? Oh! Lemme guess...
More than one, less than all.

I agree though, send all the boots to Iraq, leave the soldiers in the U.S.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:09 PM
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5. "send all the boots to Iraq, leave the soldiers in the U.S." - good plan!
i'll vote for that (even though i know we ain't gotta paper-trail - call me crazy)


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peace
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:52 PM
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3. Win?
What's the prize? Hearts and minds of the Arab world? Aint a gonna happen. We are crusaders. No matter how many chocolate bars we hand out they will want our heathen asses out of there.
Win control of the oil? OK, lets admit that's our goal first and quit with all the democratic Iraq BS. We have supported every fascist regime in Latin America why is the Middle East any different?
What's to win?
I just don't have a fight with these people.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:16 PM
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6. all that OIL they spending all that 'capital' on - you didn't get the MEMO
:evilgrin:

"Win control of the oil? OK, lets admit that's our goal first and quit with all the democratic Iraq BS"

i think i heard something about 'adjusting our realities' from one of the M$MW's of repute (WP) just the other day :evilgrin:


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psst... pass the word ;->

peace
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:19 PM
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7. Didn't a certain General suggest that and lost his job?
The goal here is not to "win" this war but milk the treasury as long as posiable...it's all about money and oil.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:21 PM
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8. Win the war for whom?
Are we planning on taking over Iraq and turning it into an American colony? If so we could continue to use force and add bodies until we get there. The country will remain in a state of perpetual war but we can stick a flag up and pretend we won. Who knows, if we add enough troops we may even be able to secure the oil supply for a little while. Is that winning?

Are we hoping to create peace and democracy in Iraq for the Iraqi people? If that was ever the intention, and it wasn't, it's way too late for it now. We are the salt in the wound exacerbating the situation.

While people here are (the US not DU) deluding themselves about how they can "fix" the mess over there, the people over there are dying.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:30 PM
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10. How many Iraqis and foreign fighters ..
does Amerika need to kill before victory is at hand? The Iraqi "Security Forces: are expected to defeat the Insurgency when Amerika cannot do so?
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:22 PM
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9. Billy, what is this Dresden????
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:44 PM
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11. you know bush is itch'n to pull the trigger, fuck rummy
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:50 PM
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12. I hate it when life readsl ike a Kurt novel, what's next Ice-9?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:56 PM
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13. and too many of our elites are buy'n into it
how do we effectively target them with info to make them more effective :shrug:

peace
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:15 PM
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14. Well, with the old paradigm of 10:1, we'll need 1 to 2 MILLION troops
But then, who the hell knows how many we're against? Not only that, how many are just part-timers and sympathizers? Don't we need to counter those with dilletante warriors and other temps?

People who claim to know what's going on in this instance are fools.
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