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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:42 PM
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DSM CONFIRMED: Plan for Iraq regime change began as early as October 2001
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 07:45 PM by BurtWorm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB163/index.htm

State Department experts warned CENTCOM
before Iraq war about lack of plans for
post-war Iraq security

Planning for post-Saddam regime change began
as early as October 2001

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 163

Posted - August 17, 2005

For more information: Malcolm Byrne - 202/994-7000


The Saddam Hussein Sourcebooks
More documents on the U.S.-Iraq relationship

Washington, D.C., August 17, 2005: Newly declassified State Department documents show that government experts warned the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) in early 2003 about "serious planning gaps for post-conflict public security and humanitarian assistance," well before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

In a February 7, 2003, memo to Under Secretary of State Paula Dobriansky, three senior Department officials noted CENTCOM's "focus on its primary military objectives and its reluctance to take on 'policing' roles," but warned that "a failure to address short-term public security and humanitarian assistance concerns could result in serious human rights abuses which would undermine an otherwise successful military campaign, and our reputation internationally." The memo adds "We have raised these issues with top CENTCOM officials."

By contrast, a December 2003 report to Congress, also released by the State Department, offers a relatively rosy picture of the security situation, saying U.S. forces are "increasingly successful in preventing planned hostile attacks; and in capturing former regime loyalists, would-be terrorists and planners; and seizing weapons caches." The document acknowledges that "Challenges remain."

Since then, 1,393 U.S. military fatalities have been recorded in Iraq, including two on the day the report went to Congress.

The new documents, released this month to the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act, also provide more evidence on when the Bush administration began planning for regime change in Iraq -- as early as October 2001.


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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:46 PM
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1. KICK AND EMAIL THE MSM
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 07:47 PM by brettdale
Kick and email the MSM.

Also contuine to email the media about

DSM
ROVE
CINDY
TORTURE PHOTOS
IRAQ.

They have to know that these stories are important and they also have to know we wont put up with the kind of BS that Anderson Cooper pulled today.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:55 PM
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4. I am really starting to believe the CM will refuse to report the truth,...
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 07:57 PM by Just Me
,...until the indictments come out. Then, they'll jump all over it like a buncha' hyenas in spite of the fact they had ample opportunity to offer the level of coverage the American people deserved quite some time ago!!!

:grr:
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:50 PM
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2. The Iraqis firgured it out in Nov 2000...
Think about the Mid-Eastern mindset...their cultural viewpoint...

What do you think THEY thought when the USA elected THE SON OF THE CONQUEROR OF IRAQ as our president...?

They knew then...

Look at how afraid we seemed to be of Uday and Qusay...

As a people (regardless of our political persuation) - we made a huge mistake sending W to the oval office...

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:56 PM
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5. And it makes sense
as to why they were blowing up oil fields.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:30 PM
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13. never forget
weTHEpeople picked GORE but the SCOTUS picked the neoCONs :scared:

peace
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:52 PM
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3.  kick

n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:02 PM
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6. Document 5:

State Department, Report to Congress Submitted consistent with PL 107-243: "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002", December 15, 2003

Nine months into the war, this State Department report to Congress says that U.S.-led military forces "continue to make progress in stabilizing Iraq's overall security situation" and have been "increasingly successful in preventing planned hostile attacks; and in capturing former regime loyalists, would-be terrorists and planners; and seizing weapons caches." Recent attacks against coalition forces "have been more sophisticated," however, "indicating that hostile foreign infiltrators are cooperating with former regime loyalists." Curiously, the report finds that successful insurgent attacks "reveal more information about planners, methods and planning sites of hostile elements, thus assisting in the prevention of attacks." On the day this report was submitted to Congress, two American soldiers died in Iraq, and an additional 1,391 have died since.


http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB163/iraq-state-05.pdf
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:13 PM
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7. Document 2 (A rosy picture of life after Sadaam as viewed in Nov. 2002)
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 08:15 PM by BurtWorm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB163/iraq-state-02.pdf

Page 6: a chronology of planning up to then for post-regime change Iraq, beginning in Oct. 2001.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:20 PM
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8. kick
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:24 PM
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9. the NeoCons were told they should leave Iraq's Police & Army intact
and just prosecute the higher ups.

The assholes didn't listen.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:54 PM
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10. They were also warned not to fire minor level ...
Ba'athist Party members of the bueurocracy but Ahmed Chalbi insisted on an entire purge.

We now can safely believe that the Intell was fixed to fit the policy of Regime Change. WMDs had to be the reason because Regime Change and attacking a sovereign nation to vhange a regime was against all Intl. Laws.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:54 PM
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11. They were also warned not to fire minor level ...
Ba'athist Party members of the bueurocracy but Ahmed Chalbi insisted on an entire purge.

We now can safely believe that the Intell was fixed to fit the policy of Regime Change. WMDs had to be the reason because Regime Change and attacking a sovereign nation to vhange a regime was against all Intl. Laws.

The Pres. lied to Congress regarding Iraq. Impeachment is long over due.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:26 PM
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12. kick
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:03 AM
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14. Wow! The Post noticed!
Sure, it's on page 13, but it's in the Post the day after it became available.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/17/AR2005081701974_pf.html

Prewar Memo Warned of Gaps in Iraq Plans
State Dept. Officials Voiced Concerns About Post-Invasion Security, Humanitarian Aid

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 18, 2005; A13



One month before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, three State Department bureau chiefs warned of "serious planning gaps for post-conflict public security and humanitarian assistance" in a secret memorandum prepared for a superior.

The State Department officials, who had been discussing the issues with top military officers at the Central Command, noted that the military was reluctant "to take on 'policing' roles" in Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. The three officials warned that "a failure to address short-term public security and humanitarian assistance concerns could result in serious human rights abuses which would undermine an otherwise successful military campaign, and our reputation internationally."

The Feb. 7, 2003, memo, addressed to Paula J. Dobriansky, undersecretary for democracy and global affairs, came at a time when the Pentagon was increasingly taking over control of post-invasion planning from the State Department. It reflected the growing tensions between State Department and Pentagon officials and their disparate assessments about the challenges looming in post-invasion Iraq.

The question of whether the United States planned adequately for the post-invasion occupation echoes today, as the insurgency continues to challenge U.S. policy in Iraq. Many senior State Department officials are still bitter about what they see as the Pentagon's failure to take seriously their planning efforts, particularly in the "Future of Iraq" project.

The memo was one of several documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and made public yesterday by the National Security Archive, a nonprofit research group. Other documents detail the specifics of the Future of Iraq project, which brought together Iraqi exiles and U.S. experts in an attempt to plan for such things as a new banking system, a new military and a new constitution.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:48 PM
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16. kick
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:57 AM
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15. kick (nt)
:kick:
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