The Circle of Oil will Exclude US. Look at what's happening:

[cyberpj]

Russia and China:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3310317

Iran and Iraq:
http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/3670/Iraq_Signs_Military_Pact_with_Iran

And here's where it comes full circle:

Venezuela enlists Iran to steer oil to China
Venezuela has enrolled Iran to help it accelerate a strategy to steer its oil exports to China and away from its traditional market of the US.

A team of traders from Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), the state-owned oil company, is to be trained in London by Iranian advisers in how to best place oil in Asian markets, according to industry sources.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3221ed52-732d-11d9-86a0-00000e2511c8.html

Russia goes for bonus points by snubbing Japan
(Thanks to DUer Gloria for this)
From the current World Media Watch....Putting the screws to Japan, whose present PM is best buds with Bush...

MOSCOW - As Russia has failed to secure any significant economic commitments from Tokyo, notably on a Japan-bound Pacific oil pipeline, the Kremlin has lost all interest in resolving its long-standing territorial dispute with Tokyo any time soon. Indeed, Russia has removed Japan from its Asian diplomacy priority list.

(snip...)
As Moscow becomes more disenchanted with what it perceives as Tokyo's obduracy, China could replace Japan as the main beneficiary of a trans-Siberian oil pipeline.
2//Asia Times Online, Hong Kong Aug 17, 2005 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/GH17Ag01.html


Guess the PNAC boys will get to pull out their BIG toys now, won't they?

God help us all.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. Simple.... we would be hardpressed to invade and occupy other

nations without petrol.... oh bother....

[arcane1]

2. there is another term for this sort of thing:

"world war 3"

[cyberpj]

3. My question is

did the PNAC actually want "the big one" -- have they been setting it up all along?

Or was it truly the spread freedom concept gone wrong?

[Just Me]

5. Brings to mind Perle's advocacy for "all out war".

The "Prince of Darkness" says, if we wage all out war,..."our children will sing". I guess he's only talking about the corporacrats' kids.

[arcane1]

8. they do NOT want to "spread freedom"

and I suppose, when you think about it, reducing the earth's population by 1/3 would work for them as well

[cyberpj]

9. I know

I thought of the population reduction possibilities as well -
because it looks like they're doing a good job already in Iraq (Franks: "we don't do body counts")and Africa (with their measly attempts at help in the oil-poor places).

[drduffy]

4. Rupert's been saying

this for a while. If we don't all die in some idiotic neocon 'final solution' then maybe my small farm with ox will work. A little psychology on the side for eggs.....veggies.

[cyberpj]

6. Rupert?

And hey - got room on that small farm for a masseuse and a computer net tech nerd? Communes will be making a big comeback very soon...

[Theres-a]

7. Yoiks

:yoiks: