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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:44 AM
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Sen. Schumer on floor now re: leak C-Span2 11:43 ET
You could hear a pin drop when he started on the subject....
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:45 AM
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1. Bringing up an article from truth out
by John Dean
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:45 AM
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2. He just mentioned TruthOut!
Woohoo! he is adding the article to the record.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:22 AM
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44. i KNEW wills article would be hard to ignore!
great work will :toast:

peace
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:46 AM
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3. Serious crime
Ten-years in prison

Done for spite

Yellowcake docs forged

Nasty. Like kneecapping

John Dean---referred to Truthout.org!

Nixonian-deadly serious

Consent to add John Dean article to record

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:48 AM
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4. More
Schumer: So many outraged

Not an "ordinary leak"

Jeapordized lives

Firing leaker isn't enough

Sweeping under rug
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:50 AM
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5. Reid - Stuck on morning session to avoid
debating the leak stuff?? Oh boy!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:50 AM
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6. Harry Reid on now
Crime was committed--who did it?

What fear does majority have to not discuss?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:51 AM
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7. "It makes one wonder...."
"What are they worried about? Why WON'T they get to the bottom of this?"
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:20 AM
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42. CIA agent was tracking movement of WMD
Why would you want to aid terrorists by removing the hub that was tracking the movement of WMD(precursors etc) around the world?

OR maybe you do not want anyone to see the movement of WMD from point A to point B?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:51 AM
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8. thanks for the info
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:52 AM
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9. Bsack to Schumer
President's hallmark is commitment to troops

C-I-C what are they worried about

Very likely serious crime

Reading quote from Poppy Bush re: exposing agents = traitors
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:53 AM
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10. Dem senator Reid from Nevada
"The senator is saying that you can't offer your ammendment?"

Apparently Schumer is trying to offer an ammendment and the Repukes are not letting him because of some parliamentary procedure...
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:54 AM
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11. Boxer on nowRemembers articles from July (by Novak)
oh lordy

Why would someone do this?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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12. Barbara Boxer from Cali
Why would someone do this?

Clearly the idea behind attacking Wilson's wife because he gave the WH info they didn't want to hear...

Kill the messenger type of response...

It's about arrogance and intimidation.

It's the intimidation I want you to comment on...

NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS IF YOU CROSS US... WE'LL GO AFTER YOUR WIFE, YOUR KIDS

It's the lowest form of politics to go after your wife, your kids.

Comment on the whole struggle women are having to advance our career...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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13. WoooHooo!
Boxer is laying it out now....

something like : this is a clear message from the WH "Don't Cross Us!"
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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14. Boxer talking about the intimidation factor
by this administration
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:57 AM
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15. Boxer up now
Thanks Schumer for picking up issue

Can't believe someone in WH would reveal identity, can't be happening

Question: Why would someone do this?

Wilson gave WH bad news (Niger) - kill the messenger, outed his wife

About arrogance and intimidation

Not about just one instance

We'll go after your family, kids

Lowest form of politics

Women struggling to advance careers, going into unusual fields, very few female FBI agents, Wilson's wife doing her work, climbing ladder, now future totally destryoed or harmed
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:58 AM
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16. Someone please post link to Dean article...
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:05 AM by Flubadubya
Have searched Truthout but cannot find it. Has anyone seen it? Thanks.

Link has been found... not at Truthout, rather at Findlaw:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030815.html
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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They did not give the URL
I think it was about the tactics of the WH by Dean, not sure how long ago it was written. Would it be the findlaw article?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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17. Schumer - Intimidation frays democracy
Shuts down commuication of ideas
Kneecapping
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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18. Schumer commenting on intimidation
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:00 AM by Tatiana
We believe in the competition of ideas...free speech, free enterprise...

When you no longer have that, when people are afraid to say what they think because they'll be hit below the belt you have the beginnings of the fraying of a democracy.

This administration seems to have a peculiar intention (attention) to do this.

In addition there is an impuning of motive an impuding of character.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:06 AM
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25. Schumer has been reading DU?
because that's what's been written here since I can recall. It's nice to see the rest of the world catching up to DU. 'Course they are still six months behind.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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19. Back to Schumer
back to intimidation

founding fathers structured debate, competition of ideas, free enterprise, religion, democracy. When ppl are afraid democracy frayed

admin has peculiar penchant for intimidation
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:58 AM
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49. WOW!!! Collectively they are starting to stand
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:58 AM by ignatius
up the bully tactics of this administration.

United we stand, divided we fall.(or in this case get set up or killed)

Go dems, we have been waiting for this for 2 1/2 long ass years!!!
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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20. Schumer
Said something like Reagan would say straight out why he didn't like a program like Head Start; Bush would say he liked it and then cut funding.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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21. The buttons are being pushed
Why are the Republicans being silence? "Tis almost funny at this point.

The story will soon be at superheat level.

The senate floor is on c-span and 'tis getting good.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:04 AM
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22. Schumer is one of the brightest stars
in a sometimes dim senate.

Give em hell Chuck
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:04 AM
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23. Sen Tom Harkin from Iowa
"You know a single allegation can be most worth of a federal prosecutor, it can be a single fact that can be most worthy of a special prosecutor."

Senator Ashcroft on CNN

Oct. 4th, 1997

This is more than a single allegation...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:05 AM
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24. Harkin up now
Sponsors amendment asking for SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

Quoting Ashcroft - single allegation worthy of spec pros (from 1997)

Access to classified info, leak, important enough that all senators should support

Amazed that not everyone supports this
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:06 AM
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26. Harkin continues....
I would think everyone would want to get to the bottom of this. Is it true that morning business has been extended so that the ammendment that we have offered (Harkin and Schumer) will not even be allowed to be offered?

HA HA HA HA HA...this is delicious!
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:09 AM
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27. Harkin quoting The Note on ABC
This is against the law
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:09 AM
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28. If the Repubs do not wish to go along with the Special Prosecutor...
Then the Dems will have no choice but to keep this front and center in the political arena each and every day until they do so....
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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31. this is terrific
Go Senators!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:26 AM
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45. Thanks all for heads up and info
I was able to catch some of Schumer and a few questions/comments from Nelson of Fla.

Looks like things are just getting started with Wilson-gate. Think Rove is a busy man these days? ;-)

Julie
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:10 AM
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29. Harkin now
We know that a law has been broken...punishable by ten years

Refering to ABC News Note

President could resolve this by 4:00 this afternoon if he wanted

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:10 AM
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30. "We know that a law has been broken" (Harkin)
so a crime has been broken, I ask the Senator...it's the Senator's judgment this can be brought to the forefront rapidly

ABC News 'The Note'... "Has the president had everyone in the WH sign a document saying they have not leaked the information?" This could be over by 4:00
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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32. The GOP Senators are off with Cheney
No GOPers in the Chamber - that have shut down the senate to discourage debate on the Leak matter.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:16 AM
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39. CHENEY ? Oh cripes ...
You can bet they're plotting whose going to take the fall for this or how they're going to help Georgie weasel out from under it !!


:hippie:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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33. Trying to time them out now
30 minutes is up

NOT JUST SOME LITTLE REAL ESTATE DEAL - Harkin
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:13 AM
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34. "What happens to our War on Terrorism?"
ha ha ha ha Harkin bringing it home...

What will happen to our other agents?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:14 AM
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35. "Anger among CIA agents is red-hot as I understand it"
Schumer speaking. CIA is livid.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:14 AM
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36. Schumer
Intelligence services are LIVID

Anger among agents RED HOT

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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:15 AM
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37. Did Schumer say . .
. . only 14 or 15 senators are behind the resolution to have an independent investigation?


Why would the other dem senators oppose this?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:30 AM
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46. guess the other 85 or so senators don't care about national security,
or weapons of mass destruction falling into terrorist hands.

So much for the reasons for the jimmied up war.

Just like our troops NOT securing nuclear facilities in Iraq (but they did secure the oil fields) - lots of materials - there for the looting - there to be sold to... terrorists.

My guess is they are being fed by their pathetic strategists: it was just a leak (not imp) and that the american public is tired of investigations and partisanship, you will alienate voters if you push this thing too hard.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:51 AM
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48. Just curious . .
. but I've been here at DU for a couple of years now and I've got a little over 800 posts. I check in at least 2 or 3 times a day most days.

How in the hell does someone accumulate over 17,000 posts. That's committment. Way to go.

:toast:
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:15 AM
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38. Sen. Nelson (FL)
a crime that jeopardizes the secuirty of the US
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:17 AM
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40. My senator is on now!
Bill Nelson - FL - not politics - a crime of most serious nature -jeopardizes security of US - lives of people. Let cops investigate bring person in front of tribunals.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:31 AM
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47. THERE is the ticket... Jeopardizes ALL of our security.
By the way, props to Will for pushing the WHAT WAS COMPROMISED angle. It is now in the congressional record!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:17 AM
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41. Nelson up now
Crime jeopardized natl security

Dealing with lives of people

Mike Spann (CIA) first killed in Afghanistan

Sad that political influence determines outcome
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:21 AM
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43. Schumer
Our obligation to service is to get to the bottom of it

Nelson: When I was in Islamabad, some guy he used to know he ran into, turns out he was old CIA agent brought back
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:26 PM
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50. Kick to the top for Schumer. for the afternoon bunch
and because it feels so good to have dems kicking ass again!!!
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