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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:17 AM
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Secondhand smoke?


(AP) Exposure to cigarette smoke raises the risk among teens of metabolic syndrome, a disorder associated with excess belly fat that increases the chances of heart disease, stroke and diabetes, according to a study.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/01/health/main713231.shtml
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:22 AM
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1. Well why didn't the kids of my generation and others before
get this disorder from all the smoking we were around?

Has anyone looked into the possibility of food causing this problem?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:26 AM
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2. Well
Generations before there were not as many cars on the road,toxins in the water,ect.ect. TThere is a carrying capacity a person has in thier body for pollutants and when the limiut is reached you see the symptoms.

Like if you take a tiny 1 million PPM drop of a toxin like arsenic you might not register it symptom wise,but as you keep ingesting it it's building up in your tissues than eventually you see the effects as symptoms.Fat works in the body with the process of infammation you do not grow new fat cells..The ones you have swell up more.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:00 PM
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9. Not necessarily true.
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 12:01 PM by TX-RAT
The cars on the roads had no emission controls.

Water at that time wasn't much better, and in some areas, far worse.

Lung disease was rampant due to everybody burning wood and coal to heat their houses. My great-granddad talked about going into New York when everybody was burning wood to cook with and heat. He talked about having to put a wet rag over his mouth, just to breath.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:52 AM
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6. LOL!
I'm against second hand smoke and was hoping this could be true, but that was funny and true point!:rofl:
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:59 AM
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8. maybe food that is full of High Fructose corn syrup
that is ubiquitous today, was not around a generation or two ago?
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:28 AM
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3. In a lot of these studies
I think you could substitute economic class with exposure to cigarette smoke, since most people who smoke now are from the lower classes.

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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:38 AM
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4. yeah maybe if they are smoking big macs....
You'd think all us 30 and 40 somethings would have this disorder, my parents smoked like chimneys.

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:41 AM
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5. Look at the percentages
Damn The haughty assumption alot of people have that fat
people are moral failures about food is just sick.
Fat people are some of the most hated on earth.
And diets do not work.The ignorance I see in fat phobics is just astounding.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:57 AM
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7. It's the last allowed bigotry
you know, all the fat people are just fat because the they sit on their butts all day stuffing their faces with McDonalds! :sarcasm:

There is an incredible amount of ignorance, still, about our bodies and metabolisms and how they work. Some simple minded folks think it's as simple as eat no fat, have no fat on your body. They have no clue about metabolic syndrome, high fructose corn syrup in EVERYTHING.

It's just so much easier to call the fat "lazy slobs" who eat too much and have no will power.

Get used to it, even/especially here at DU where we are supposed to be progressive, intelligent, compassionate...
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:14 PM
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10. You have a good point.Yet, our portion sizes in the US are out of control!
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 12:15 PM by Verve
Have you ever talked with someone from Europe who has visited the U.S? They are always astounded by how much they are served here in restaurants, home parties, and serving sizes in American grocery stores. We have an epidemic of eating too much here!

Never less, there are other factors to consider when looking at our expanding waistlines. Exercise is down (We now have remote controls, electric scooters, ride on lawn mowers, video games, etc). Also, the chemicals in our food and air are all playing havoc with our bodies (trans fats, hormones, pesticides, second smoke, etc). Mass produced food is different chemically than what we ate 30 years ago. It's very frightening!

There are also emotional reasons for overeating. What messages as a society are we internalizing that's making us fat?

My point is that there are numerous factors for obesity. As a society we all have a responsibility in it's causes. As an individual we also have to take responsibility. If we treat ourselves or overweight people like victims, who cannot control themselves, obesity will only get worse! We, as individuals need to take control of the situation and the best place to start is with ourselves.
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TexomaDem Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:48 PM
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11. "Increased fitness level fights metabolic syndrome"
in another study published by the "American Heart Association online journal Circulation", the source of the CBS secondhand smoke story.

Here's a snippet:

"Promoting higher levels of cardiorespiratory fitness, through greater physical activity may be the most prudent clinical and public health strategy for the primary prevention of metabolic syndrome,” he said.

LaMonte called on physicians to consider the potential benefits of greater cardiorespiratory fitness in the primary prevention of metabolic syndrome in patients who have components of the metabolic syndrome."

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