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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 03:56 PM Original message |
I'd like a list of the main lies that have been told to sell the Iraq War. |
I'm going to do a Will Pitt, and ask you to help with my early Friday 2am-3am CST talk show on 89.3 KZUM.
Tonight's topic is "The War". I want to put together a list of the lies that have been told to sell the war in Iraq. I'm going to be talking about other PNAC things as well. I'll be taking calls, if you don't mind paying for the long distance. The phone number is 402-474-5086. Thanks! |
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's a whole swatch of Bush Admin quotes about Iraq |
See how they change?
"How the United States should react if Iraq acquired WMD. The first line of defense...should be a clear and classical statement of deterrence--if they do acquire WMD, their weapons will be unusable because any attempt to use them will bring national obliteration." - Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor January/February 2000 issue of Foreign Affairs 2/1/2000 "(Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours." - Colin Powell, February 24, 2001 "We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt." - Condoleeza Rice, July 2001 "Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out." - George W. Bush, March 2002 "We are greatly concerned about any possible linkup between terrorists and regimes that have or seek weapons of mass destruction...In the case of Saddam Hussein, we've got a dictator who is clearly pursuing and already possesses some of these weapons. A regime that hates America and everything we stand for must never be permitted to threaten America with weapons of mass destruction." - Dick Cheney, Vice President Detroit, Fund-Raiser 6/20/2002 "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." - Dick Cheney, Vice President Speech to VFW National Convention 8/26/2002 "There is already a mountain of evidence that Saddam Hussein is gathering weapons for the purpose of using them. And adding additional information is like adding a foot to Mount Everest." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Response to Question From Press 9/6/2002 "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." - Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor CNN Late Edition 9/8/2002 "Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." - George W. Bush, President Speech to UN General Assembly 9/12/2002 "Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons. We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." - George W. Bush, President Radio Address 10/5/2002 "The Iraqi regime...possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas." - George W. Bush, President Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 "And surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons." - George W. Bush, President Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 "After eleven years during which we have tried containment, sanctions, inspections, even selected military action, the end result is that Saddam Hussein still has chemical and biological weapons and is increasing his capabilities to make more. And he is moving ever closer to developing a nuclear weapon." - George W. Bush, President Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas." - George W. Bush, President Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 "Iraq, despite UN sanctions, maintains an aggressive program to rebuild the infrastructure for its nuclear, chemical, biological, and missile programs. In each instance, Iraq's procurement agents are actively working to obtain both weapons-specific and dual-use materials and technologies critical to their rebuilding and expansion efforts, using front companies and whatever illicit means are at hand." - John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control Speech to the Hudson Institute 11/1/2002 "We estimate that once Iraq acquires fissile material -- whether from a foreign source or by securing the materials to build an indigenous fissile material capability -- it could fabricate a nuclear weapon within one year. It has rebuilt its civilian chemical infrastructure and renewed production of chemical warfare agents, probably including mustard, sarin, and VX. It actively maintains all key aspects of its offensive BW program." - John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control Speech to the Hudson Institute 11/1/2002 "Iraq could decide on any given day to provide biological or chemical weapons to a terrorist group or to individual terrorists...The war on terror will not be won until Iraq is completely and verifiably deprived of weapons of mass destruction." - Dick Cheney, Vice President Denver, Address To Air National Guard 12/1/2002 "If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 12/2/2002 "The president of the United States and the secretary of defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true, and if they did not have a solid basis for saying it." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Response to Question From Press 12/4/2002 "We know for a fact that there are weapons there." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 1/9/2003 "I am absolutely convinced, based on the information that's been given to me, that the weapon of mass destruction which can kill more people than an atomic bomb -- that is, biological weapons -- is in the hands of the leadership of Iraq." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader MSNBC Interview 1/10/2003 "What is unique about Iraq compared to, I would argue, any other country in the world, in this juncture, is the exhaustion of diplomacy thus far, and, No. 2, this intersection of weapons of mass destruction." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader NewsHour Interview 1/22/2003 "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." - George W. Bush, President State of the Union Address 1/28/2003 "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." - George W. Bush, President State of the Union Address 1/28/2003 "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Remarks to UN Security Council 2/5/2003 "There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more. And he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction. If biological weapons seem too terrible to contemplate, chemical weapons are equally chilling." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Addresses the U.N. Security Council 2/5/2003 "In Iraq, a dictator is building and hiding weapons that could enable him to dominate the Middle East and intimidate the civilized world -- and we will not allow it." - George W. Bush, President Speech to the American Enterprise Institute 2/26/2003 "If Iraq had disarmed itself, gotten rid of its weapons of mass destruction over the past 12 years, or over the last several months since (UN Resolution) 1441 was enacted, we would not be facing the crisis that we now have before us...But the suggestion that we are doing this because we want to go to every country in the Middle East and rearrange all of its pieces is not correct." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Interview with Radio France International 2/28/2003 "I am not eager to send young Americans into harm's way in Iraq, or to see innocent people killed or hurt in military operations. Given all of the facts and circumstances known to us, however, I am convinced that if we wait, a threat will continue to materialize in Iraq that could cause incalculable damage to world peace in general, and to the United States in particular." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Letter to Future of Freedom Foundation 3/1/2003 "Iraq is a grave threat to this nation. It desires to acquire and use weapons of mass terror and is run by a despot with a proven record of willingness to use them. Iraq has had 12 years to comply with UN requirements for disarmament and has failed to do so. The president is right to say it's time has run out." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Senate Speech 3/7/2003 "So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? I think our judgment has to be clearly not." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Remarks to UN Security Council 3/7/2003 "Getting rid of Saddam Hussein's regime is our best inoculation. Destroying once and for all his weapons of disease and death is a vaccination for the world." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Washington Post op-ed 3/16/2003 "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." - Dick Cheney, Vice President Meet The Press 3/16/2003 "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." - George W. Bush, President Address to the Nation 3/17/2003 "The United States...is now at war so we will not ever see what terrorists could do if supplied with weapons of mass destruction by Saddam Hussein." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Senate Debate 3/20/2003 "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 3/21/2003 "There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And...as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them." - General Tommy Franks, Commander in Chief Central Command Press Conference 3/22/2003 "One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites." - Victoria Clark, Pentagon Spokeswoman Press Briefing 3/22/2003 "I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction." - Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board member Washington Post, p. A27 3/23/2003 "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense ABC Interview 3/30/2003 "We simply cannot live in fear of a ruthless dictator, aggressor and terrorist such as Saddam Hussein, who possesses the world's most deadly weapons." - Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Speech to American Israel Political Action Committee 3/31/2003 "We still need to find and secure Iraq's weapons of mass destruction facilities and secure Iraq's borders so we can prevent the flow of weapons of mass destruction materials and senior regime officials out of the country." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Press Conference 4/9/2003 "You bet we're concerned about it. And one of the reasons it's important is because the nexus between terrorist states with weapons of mass destruction...and terrorist groups -- networks -- is a critical link. And the thought that...some of those materials could leave the country and in the hands of terrorist networks would be a very unhappy prospect. So it is important to us to see that that doesn't happen." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Press Conference 4/9/2003 "Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty." - Robert Kagan, Neocon scholar Washington Post op-ed 4/9/2003 "I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 4/10/2003 "But make no mistake -- as I said earlier -- we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 4/10/2003 "Were not going to find anything until we find people who tell us where the things are. And we have that very high on our priority list, to find the people who know. And when we do, then well learn precisely where things were and what was done." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Meet the Press 4/13/2003 "I have absolute confidence that there are weapons of mass destruction inside this country. Whether we will turn out, at the end of the day, to find them in one of the 2,000 or 3,000 sites we already know about or whether contact with one of these officials who we may come in contact with will tell us, 'Oh, well, there's actually another site,' and we'll find it there, I'm not sure." - General Tommy Franks, Commander in Chief Central Command Fox News 4/13/2003 "We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them." - George W. Bush, President NBC Interview 4/24/2003 "There are people who in large measure have information that we need...so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Press Briefing 4/25/2003 "We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." - George W. Bush, President Remarks to Reporters 5/3/2003 "I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Remarks to Reporters 5/4/2003 "We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Fox News Interview 5/4/2003 "I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program." - George W. Bush, President Remarks to Reporters 5/6/2003 "U.S. officials never expected that 'we were going to open garages and find' weapons of mass destruction." - Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor Reuters Interview 5/12/2003 "I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden." - Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne Press Briefing 5/13/2003 "We said all along that we will never get to the bottom of the Iraqi WMD program simply by going and searching specific sites, that you'd have to be able to get people who know about the programs to talk to you." - Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense Interview with Australian Broadcasting 5/13/2003 "Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found." - Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps Interview with Reporters 5/21/2003 "It's going to take time to find them, but we know he had them. And whether he destroyed them, moved them or hid them, we're going to find out the truth. One thing is for certain: Saddam Hussein no longer threatens America with weapons of mass destruction." - George W. Bush, President Speech at a weapons factory in Ohio 5/25/2003 "Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction." - Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff NBC Today Show interview 5/26/2003 "They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Remarks to Council on Foreign Relations 5/27/2003 "For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on." - Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense Vanity Fair interview 5/28/2003 "The President is indeed satisfied with the intelligence that he received. And I think that's borne out by the fact that, just as Secretary Powell described at the United Nations, we have found the bio trucks that can be used only for the purpose of producing biological weapons. That's proof-perfect that the intelligence in that regard was right on target." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 5/29/2003 "We have teams of people that are out looking. They've investigated a number of sites. And within the last week or two, they have in fact captured and have in custody two of the mobile trailers that Secretary Powell talked about at the United Nations as being biological weapons laboratories." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Infinity Radio Interview 5/30/2003 "But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." - George W. Bush, President Interview with TVP Poland 5/30/2003 "You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on." - George W. Bush, President Press Briefing 5/30/2003 "It was a surprise to me then -- it remains a surprise to me now -- that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there." - Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force Press Interview 5/30/2003 "Do I think we're going to find something? Yeah, I kind of do, because I think there's a lot of information out there." - Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton, Defense Intelligence Agency Press Conference 5/30/2003 "This wasn't material I was making up, it came from the intelligence community." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Press Briefing 6/2/2003 "We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents. This is the man who spent decades hiding tools of mass murder. He knew the inspectors were looking for them. You know better than me he's got a big country in which to hide them. We're on the look. We'll reveal the truth." - George W. Bush, President Camp Sayliya, Qatar 6/5/2003 "I would put before you Exhibit A, the mobile biological labs that we have found. People are saying, 'Well, are they truly mobile biological labs?' Yes, they are. And the DCI, George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence, stands behind that assessment." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Fox News Interview 6/8/2003 "No one ever said that we knew precisely where all of these agents were, where they were stored." - Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor Meet the Press 6/8/2003 "What the president has said is because it's been the long-standing view of numerous people, not only in this country, not only in this administration, but around the world, including at the United Nations, who came to those conclusions...And the president is not going to engage in the rewriting of history that others may be trying to engage in." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Response to Question From Press 6/9/2003 "Iraq had a weapons program...Intelligence throughout the decade showed they had a weapons program. I am absolutely convinced with time we'll find out they did have a weapons program." - George W. Bush, President Comment to Reporters 6/9/2003 "The biological weapons labs that we believe strongly are biological weapons labs, we didn't find any biological weapons with those labs. But should that give us any comfort? Not at all. Those were labs that could produce biological weapons whenever Saddam Hussein might have wanted to have a biological weapons inventory." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State Associated Press Interview 6/12/2003 "Those documents were only one piece of evidence in a larger body of evidence suggesting that Iraq attempted to purchase uranium from Africa...The issue of Iraq's pursuit of uranium in Africa is supported by multiple sources of intelligence. The other sources of evidence did and do support the president's statement." - Sean McCormack, National Security Council Spokesman Statement to press 6/13/2003 "My personal view is that their intelligence has been, I'm sure, imperfect, but good. In other words, I think the intelligence was correct in general, and that you always will find out precisely what it was once you get on the ground and have a chance to talk to people and explore it, and I think that will happen." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Press Briefing 6/18/2003 "I have reason, every reason, to believe that the intelligence that we were operating off was correct and that we will, in fact, find weapons or evidence of weapons, programs, that are conclusive. But that's just a matter of time...It's now less than eight weeks since the end of major combat in Iraq and I believe that patience will prove to be a virtue." - Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense Pentagon media briefing 6/24/2003 MS. BLOCK: There were no toxins found in those trailers. SECRETARY POWELL: Which could mean one of several things: one, they hadn't been used yet to develop toxins; or, secondly, they had been sterilized so thoroughly that there is no residual left. It may well be that they hadn't been used yet. - Colin Powell, Secretary of State All Things Considered, Interview 6/27/2003 "That was the concern we had with Saddam Hussein. Not only did he have weapons -- and we'll uncover not only his weapons but all of his weapons programs -- he never lost the intent to have these kinds of weapons." - Colin Powell, Secretary of State All Things Considered, Interview 6/27/2003 "I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are." - Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary Press Briefing 7/9/2003 |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I'm printing your's now. |
The quotes are great!
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. There's nothing quite so sweet as using their own words |
The Freepers can only say "but but but...."
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. The one that's MOST IMPEACHABLE - Bush sent a letter to Congress when the |
war started stating that he had made the determination that military action was needed for our national security. This was even AFTER the weapons inspections came up with NOTHING.
That's called a False Statement....an OFFICIAL false statement. DSM proves that he knew he was lying when he made that statement. |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thanks! I'm going to the library to print these out |
as I don't have a printer.
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Here are some... |
1. WMD's (i.e. "aluminum tubes", enriched uranium from Niger, mobile chemical weapons labs, unmanned aerial drones, 45 minutes from a launch, ....)
2. After the shock of 9/11, the constant mentioning of Iraq and Al-Qaida in the same breath intended to be taken by the listener as Iraq having links to Al-Qaida and being partly responsible for 9/11. 3. Gassed his own people (when he was "our" dictator fighting the Iranians in the 19 freakin' 80's!!!) 4. In violation of UN Resolution 1441. 5. Shot at our pilots flying over Iraq in the No-Fly Zones. (UN never sanctioned the No-Fly Zones as they were used by the US and UK) 6. Saddam was an evil dictator. (No Duh. Wasn't a problem in the 1980's when he served US foreign policy. He was killing his own people then, where were the rightwing apologists?) |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Go to White Rose and download Mike Malloy's audio clip War Gate! |
aka LIES
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