Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I am Mom to a Son. I want answers before I lose him to

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:35 PM
Original message
I am Mom to a Son. I want answers before I lose him to
a corporate war.

Diana R. Moreland
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:38 PM
Response to Original message
1. Im a mother
of a son and daughter. And eldest sister to 4 brothera and one sister
currently of draft age.

I'm with you..I want answers too!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Then let us demand answers, not RW rhetoric from corrupt talking
heads.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I agree!
it's time to stop this bloody machine!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. moms where are you?
would also like to hear others stories.
I "hosted the local vigil last night here in Mesa Az. and was honored to be surrounded by such wonderful people. Everyone of them had a touching story. So many mothers....too many mothers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Too many Mothers. We need to be one with Cindy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Smear Cindy, smear us all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I am a mother of 2 sons-
one of which is draft age. I am so afrad of this illegal war. I am now fearing what could be the next one-Iran? Bush must be stopped!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I am a military brat, and proud of it. But my Father defended the
Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. In my youth, to send our youth to fight a war of aggression was an evil thing. It is still evil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. I have two sons too LibraLeft, both teens, my oldest 18, and there
is no way that they are getting them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. My boys are 19 and 11.
This talk of war on "terra" to just go on and on- I fear for my younger guy, too! I always have Canada in the back of my mind, O.S.O.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. Canada is not an option. There is an agreement between Canada
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:48 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and the US for extradition in regard to draft dodging.

BTW! Welcome to DU! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #25
32. Thanks for the welcome!
I'm sorry to hear about Canada.:-(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
51. I am a mother of 2 sons
both of which are draft age, and I'm terrified! :scared:



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
33. mother of three here
Two girls (14 and 12) and a boy (9). I know they're young, but who knows where we're headed. I am prepared to do ANYTHING to keep them from becoming cannon fodder for inane wars. My heart goes out to Cindy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:04 PM
Response to Original message
8. Tell him
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:06 PM by bonito
If he signs up, he is indebted to take a life of another should the occasion arise, and live with knowing by his action, it would be like throwing back his very existence, as if he wished not to be. If it be that his own life be taken, he will not worry any more. but tell him he is precious, to you, and show him, and let him feel his own preciousness, and he will see others as himself. He is life, and knowing this he will know the value of life, and not be a party of killing of another. This message was sent a long time ago but greed got in the way. figure. Robert C Armstrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
11. My two boys are 16 and 18, you warmongering thugs
And I want answers too. There hasn't been any reason firmer than a fog for our sacrificing our children. You don't have to convince THEM, you have to convince US.

And I don't think you can, because you are morally, spiritually, ethically and intellectually bankrupt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. annabanana, are you from the Big Easy? Will we be seeing you
on the peace train?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. I'm up by the big apple...
and pretty much stuck here. I wish I were aboard, but I must participate from afar, for now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:20 PM
Response to Original message
13. Momma checking in
Oldest son will be 18 next month and I'm buying him a passport for his birthday. I just got a poll from Zogby, yesterday, and it asked all about mandatory service and would I back a draft. Now, I wonder who paid for those questions?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. We speak with one voice. Smear us all with your conservative
family values.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #13
42. Good Gawd.
Zogby is asking about a draft :scared:

Lets hope the numbers scare them off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
16. I'm a mom. I have Cindy's back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. I was on another thread tonight
and I said, Cindy spoke for us... Now we have to speak for her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Abso-frickin-lutely! And welcome to DU *hugs*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Thanks for the warm welcome!
I've been here for several months-a lurker. I just got the courage to speak out this week. I think I can thank Cindy for this. She is an inspiration for all us Moms!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I am glad you came out of hiding. *g*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Me too!
It feels good but I am still a litle nervous. So bear with me,*G*.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Well, I will confess that shortly after I signed up here I ran away
because so many people jumped all over me for being a Green.

But obviously I came back, weathered the storm, and am glad that I did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. I'm glad you came back, too!
I've read some of your posts and I think DU is a better place because of them. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. *blush* Thank you. But DU is the sum of its parts; so many people have
made it what it is. And now we can count you as one of them :hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. GreenParty Voter
:yourock:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:35 AM
Response to Reply #24
48. i am mom to a Casey ...
and after 9/11 my son wanted to join the armed forces because i was a flt attend for one of the airlines involved..i begged my son not to , as i had no faith in bush..i dd not trust or believe facts surrounding 9/11 so i begged my son to not do it..actually it was contensious...now he is glad he didn't go ..and i thank god he didn't go...so many kids volunteered after 9/11..and they were tricked and fooled and lied to..

why do we have 130,000 kids in iraq, and so few searching for osama??

i know we have all researched it and thought alot about it..now its time to speak out about it loud and clear..for Cindy's casey , but for all of our kids in uniform in iraq..

and we all know that each and everyone of our soldiers is "our" kid!!

because we are moms!!
and dad's ..who care....

this war is ..not in my name!!

and to Cindy ..i love you lady..you stood when it was hardest for you to stand..but you stand as a treasure to all "our" kids..in your tragedy..you gave us voice..you gave us courage, you gave your all...
i will forever be grateful to you dear sweet lady!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:07 PM
Response to Original message
21. I am a mother of three ...
Two boys (23 and 9) and a girl (11). George Bush MAY NOT have any of my children for any of his immoral wars. PERIOD.

As a mother I don't want to have to empathize with yet an other mothers pain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
28. I'm a mom
I demand our democracy back for my (our) children.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Well said!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:44 AM
Response to Reply #28
50. my baby served in Kosovo. That hell was enough
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:21 PM
Response to Original message
31. Mommas... don't let your babies grow up to be cannon fodder...
When my kid asked me what to do about the draft, I told him not to worry... they wouldn't take him without a right big toe. He pointed out that he had a right big toe. I told him he wouldn't have if he got drafted.

I'm not sure I wasn't totally serious.

I guess it comes down to a question of who you raised your kids for. Did you raise your kids for themselves or for the State?

Do ANYTHING to keep your kids from the military.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:38 PM
Response to Original message
34. After watching an interview with mothers who have lost their sons
in Iraq and are in opposition to Cindy Sheehan's stance, all I can say is I pity them. The reasons they gave is that the President of the United States asked their sons to do their duty to protect their country. So in their minds, to know that their kids died for shit, would really destroy them.

Damn. All I can say is we have to start knocking this lemming mentality out of mainstream America. The President is a leader not a god. We have a right to question him if he makes the wrong decisions.

I would have to ask any mother, no matter how patriotic she feels, that if the President of the United States asked her to shove her children off of a high rise building because this sacrifice would make our country safer, if she would do it. I'm pretty sure she would say WTF?

When you are asked to go to war and contribute your children and taxes to it, it would really behoove you to research exactly what is happening. This would be the time to question your representatives and senators and let them know that it had better be for the right reasons.

I would start hounding your pols about this and getting together with other mothers of military or soon to be military age to get all your facts in front of you before you let them take your children. I am certain in this instance you will find that this war is being fought for the profit of a few with the blood of many that they don't care about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
35. My oldest son is over there
I'll be damned if they get my other 2.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. May he come home safely...
and SOON.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. thanks,sweetie-me,too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. I certainly second that LeftLibra
will say a prayer for your son w8liftinglady....


:hi: Welcome to DU LeftLibra :)
Another Libra is always welcome...especially a Leftie one :evilgrin:
DR
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #39
43. Thanks for the welcome,DR
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 12:08 AM by LeftLibra
I'm glad to finally be speaking (instead of just reading) here at DU!:bounce: And you know us Libras; we are the original "fair & balanced". Eat your heart out, Faux News! O8)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. We will light a candle for all of them to come home safely.
Keep the faith.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:43 AM
Response to Reply #35
49. bless him and god keep him safe!!
i will keep him in my prayers!!, and you as well mom!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:51 PM
Response to Original message
37. I'm a Mom of a son & daughter...
My son is 28 and my daughter is 23.

There is NO WAY IN HEAVEN that this lie of a war will get either of my kids.
NO WAY. No matter what I have to do....will never happen. We all have our passports current & ready.



Great big :hug::hug: to all you who have children over in Iraq or any war zone. My heart goes out to you & I say a prayer for their safety.

I NEVER thought after Viet Nam we would have to face this again for our children, brothers ,husbands and loved ones.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
41. It may be moms who finally bring an end to this insanity..
let's hope so.I'm in..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftLibra Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #41
56. We are mothers
Hear us roar! Anyone here remember Helen Reddy? Let's make OUR numbers too big to ignore!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:09 AM
Response to Original message
44. I am Mom to a Son. I want answers before we lose any more to
a corporate war. The only corporate war I would lose him to is the one fighting corporate wars. And I would die before having that happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:34 AM
Response to Original message
45. I've always hoped my off spring would not choose the military..
so far so good. If they did join up, it would be entirely their choice and I'd have to deal with it. I believe in "letting" go of your kids once they grow up or move out...usually those two things coincide. One more to go, almost out of high school. I don't own my kids, and neither does my wife. They also understand that I would have no hesitation in protesting an issue I didn't agree with...even if they had a hand in it. This is where I probably differ from the good lady Cindy: their decisions are their decisions, if they died fighting an inane war...I'd still be bewildered by their choice to join an army.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:42 AM
Response to Original message
46. They would have to kill me to take my 4 boys
All my boys are draft age, and they demonstrate with me and the rest of my family against this insane and illegal war. I have 4 daughters too and like I said they would have to kill me first to get them. I will fight that war!!:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #46
47. That is a war I will fight to the death as well....
My children will not become GWB's Chattel!!

BTW - Welcome to DU!:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:50 AM
Response to Reply #47
52. My Son is 18 this year!
We have to stop this administration, NOW!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:48 AM
Response to Original message
53. I'm a father to a son. I want answers, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:32 AM
Response to Original message
54. I'm a mom to two sons...
12 and 10 years old.. neither will fight in any of Bush's illegal corporate wars.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:23 AM
Response to Original message
55. the ancient test of the just war-
will mothers give their sons? since the invention of war, this has been the deciding factor. that is why cindy scares the shit out of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:49 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC