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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:08 PM
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Update from Crawford
Original Message -------- Subject: why I'm here
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:44:16 -0700
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To: <CA4Democracy@yahoogroups.com>, "NorCal DfA" <dfa-norcal@yahoogroups.com>



My friends,


I had promised a few people that I would write about why I was going to Crawford before I left. I thought that I would be able to do that on the first day I got here --- I was wrong. I have been incredibly busy as the person drafted to be the Crawford Peace House volunteer coordinator that I don’t think I’ve gotten to post anything in about 3 days. I apologize for the void in communication, and I realize people are wanting to know about what’s going on!



First, Cindy and Dede’s Mom is okay, considering she had a stroke ---- it was not life threatening. Dede (Cindy’s sister) will stay with her from here on out, and Cindy should be back by tomorrow. There’s no such thing as good timing when it comes to something like that, but this weekend is particularly trying because they are trying to move the encampment at the site to the plot of land that a lone sympathetic rancher has so kindly allowed the vigil keepers to stay on. In addition, Amy Goodman just got here last night, in addition to an AirAmerica affiliate from San Diego. There are celebrities scheduled to arrive here this weekend besides Lance Armstrong; unfortunately, I am not at liberty to say who they are. Because Crawford is so small, it has been a real struggle to be able to handle the influx of people coming to the Peace House and Camp Casey from a logistical point of view, so advertising who may show up is not being pushed right now. Just handling the parking situation is an ongoing challenge because the House is actually located on the main road going in to Crawford, and they are without a parking lot. Many of the neighbors are not exactly thrilled by our presence, so coming up with space can often be a headache. Add that to food, porta potties, water, ice……. Well, you get the idea.



But that’s not why I’m writing this. Let me just tell you a quick story illustrating a part of the why.



A few days ago, one of the two mail carriers that deliver mail in town whispered to our Parking Queen, Barbara (from San Diego), that any mail that only had “Crawford Peace House” without the actual numbered address, was being ‘returned to sender.’ Apparently, the Crawford Post Office was in the habit of holding on to the mail and then every now and then, sending them back to the people who had written either Cindy or CPH. Barbara, a retired postal worker, informed me that while that was technically possible, to do so was a real indication of their attitude towards what was happening here. After a few well placed phone calls to various Congressional reps, Postal Inspectors from Dallas and regional offices paid a visit to the post office here in town. It’s true many pieces of mail were returned to people, but we found out that a large amount had also just gone back to the main Dallas-Ft Worth Post Office. It was just sitting there.



Johnny Wolfe, one of the co-founders of the Peace House went to the DFW office to pick the lot that had been sent back. When he walked into the place, he noticed that AirAmerica was cranked up in the front receiving area of the office. After he introduced himself at the counter and informed them that he was there to pick up the mail, the entire facility, including the processing center in the back, stopped and came to the front. They cheered and roared their approval in the loudest Texas fashion for everyone in Crawford who was there to take it to Bush. News of this brought tears to a few of us back at the House. I can’t begin to adequately describe what it’s meant to get that kind of support. When I think of how difficult it’s been, I just think of those moments that I couldn’t even begin to imagine reading in a story.



Experiences like that have shown me that people everywhere, not just those that have gone out of their way to come here, are with us (and by that I mean all of you reading this, as well). Most of America truly understands that there is no light at the end of this dark, foul tunnel --- they want it to stop ----- and stop before it goes elsewhere…..



I am asking everyone who is reading this to please, please --- bring this subject up now and at the conferences. Talk about this! I know we have the special election to deal with (I’ve already walked precincts), and the issue of electoral integrity is major, but we can’t let the issue of the war and occupation get away from us. It is bankrupting us in blood and treasure. As DFAers, we have an obligation to continue to raise difficult questions ---- and demand they be answered for the sake of making us and the Party better than it is now. To continue this silence for strategy’s sake is morally impoverished as a part of a vision for ‘taking our country back’. Choosing to not decide IS a choice.



Get this rolling! TALK! I’m going to really try to steal some moments where I can type today, but I’m already off to the first event of the day: the National Council of Churches will have an Interfaith Service at noon. 300 clergy bused in from everywhere will be at the site to lend solidarity to the efforts of the brave souls who have stuck in out in the unbearable heat.



Talk to you all soon,



karen

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:12 PM
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1. Thanks for info. I posted a link here:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:12 PM
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2. Great, thanks for the report and my prayers go out to Cindy....
...Dede and their mother.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:14 PM
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3. My prayers go to Cindy and her Mother and in particular those...
who have the courage to wake up america!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:16 PM
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4. What a great experience they had at the Dallas GPO.
Let me tell you a story about the good people at the Dallas GPO.

We went down to help with voter registration on the last day it closed. We were hanging out in front of the PO helping people fill out forms. The Dallas GPO folks put out a special bin and said, "The latest we accept mail is 9:00." We said we'd tell people that. 9:00 came and went. They said they'd stretch it til 10. There was still a steady stream of people coming into the PO to register -- hundreds each hour. 10:00 came and went. They kept the postmark open. 11:00 came and went.

Those people kept the bin open and kept their last "postmarking" open all the way til midnight for those people who wanted to register to vote. Even thought they didn't have to.

It still gives me chills. Bless them. They're good people there at the GPO.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:42 PM
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19. Hi, Crispi
Maybe there are more of us in Dallas than I thought.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:06 PM
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25. Yup. City of Dallas = 75% Kerry.
We totally rock.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:13 PM
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27. Hey, Crispini! Have you been to Crawford?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:22 PM
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29. Going Sunday!
How about you?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:26 PM
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30. Great to hear! Being in NC, and being the start of a new semester...
of teaching, I think I will have to settle for going to Washington D.C. on Sept. 24. Maybe I should check into an overnight plane trip next weekend or something. Zip over to Texas and then back in a day or two. I'm already spending about $400 on the Washington trip (which is my birthday weekend, also).
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:57 PM
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44. Hope to meet you there, Hissyspit
I'm going with some fellow Michigan DUers -- we arrive early Friday afternoon and leave late Sunday afternoon.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:32 PM
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32. I never realized that.
You're not as alone as I thought you were.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:39 PM
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35. Most people don't realize that even here.
because the burbs are so very red red red. But there really is a difference between the city and the burbs. There's a reason why I live where I do! :P

Are you listening to KO and DP? They're totally funny. I'm really enjoying this even though I don't know anything about sports.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:42 PM
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36. I forgot and turned it on late.
I've had it on about 15-20 minutes. I turned it on in the middle of KO talking about smoking. I need to put 2:00 on Fridays on my Outlook calendar so I don't forget to turn it on!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:45 PM
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37. They both confessed to smoking pot in their younger days.
Are we at ALL surprised? Noooooo. :P
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:49 PM
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39. Can't say that I am.
I'm going to have to tape tonight (third time this week), as we're having dinner with friends and I know we won't be home by 8.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:50 PM
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40. Drop by for the re-air!
I'm sure someone will be around. :hi:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:53 PM
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41. Too late for me
Although I'll be up until midnight, as Bill Maher starts his new season tonight at 11. I'm sure I'll be ready to go to sleep as soon as he's over, though. I want to be able to get up in the morning to walk.

I might catch someone between shows if anyone is around.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:55 PM
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42. Loved the closing comments
Watch Keith on Countdown instead of the spin doctors on Fox (Dan) or anything on Fox (KO). LOL!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:55 PM
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43. I laughed.
I'm sure my coworkers are wondering why I am listening to ESPN radio all of a sudden. Little do they know... :evilgrin:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:57 PM
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45. I'm in an office and no one can hear my radio (computer, actually)
I laughed, too, though.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:19 PM
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5. Well damn
That made me cry.

Never fear, my very big mouth will be spreading this far and wide.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:23 PM
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6. Thanks for the update.
We are all here for you!

Peace.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:24 PM
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7. And note that Cindy's coming back, ya'll!
I think this is the first place I've seen that posted anywhere.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:26 PM
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10. She is supposed to be back today
n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:46 PM
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21. Yeah!
:bounce: :applause: :patriot:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:26 PM
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8. Glad to hear Cindy's mom's okay.
And glad to hear Cindy's on her way back. This has been one hell of a month for her, and my hope is for her strength, both mentally and physically.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:26 PM
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9. Wonderful news, Cindy is coming back! n/t
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:26 PM
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11. Thanks for the update. nt
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:27 PM
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12. This way Cindy can be there for Sunday Church service. Is * coming?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:46 PM
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22. You mean the church right across the street
from Cindys new site?

:rofl:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:30 PM
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13. fantastic news - so glad her mom is "ok"
though she had a stroke so we look forward to hearing she is recovering well

thanks for the news
uplifting vibes to cindy and family
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:31 PM
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14. KICK KICK KICK
:kick:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:36 PM
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15. This paragraph deserves as much attention as possible!
Johnny Wolfe, one of the co-founders of the Peace House went to the DFW office to pick the lot that had been sent back. When he walked into the place, he noticed that AirAmerica was cranked up in the front receiving area of the office. After he introduced himself at the counter and informed them that he was there to pick up the mail, the entire facility, including the processing center in the back, stopped and came to the front. They cheered and roared their approval in the loudest Texas fashion for everyone in Crawford who was there to take it to Bush. News of this brought tears to a few of us back at the House. I can’t begin to adequately describe what it’s meant to get that kind of support. When I think of how difficult it’s been, I just think of those moments that I couldn’t even begin to imagine reading in a story.


Totally fanatastic!! Run that on CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, .... !!


Peace.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:56 PM
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24. Agreed! That is absolutely awesome!
Hmmm...doesn't really sound like Texas is * country after all!

Good to hear that Cindy's Mom is doing OK.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:36 PM
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34. I posted your suggestion separately, understandinglife, here:
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 01:39 PM by Hissyspit
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:21 PM
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48. Thanks
n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:36 PM
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16. that's outstanding news!!
i especially like and will be forwarding the postal service info to my retired USPS dad.

dp
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:38 PM
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17. CAll this number to start an official trace of the mail!
If you sent any mail to Crawford, do it!! You have no way of knowing if Cindy received it. Where are DUers 1000 postcards? No one at Camp Casey has mentioned receiving them. Come on guys. Start calling!

1-800-275-8777
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:51 PM
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23. Maybe you should make this its own thread??
I sent a card with a small bit of cash in it...hope they get it!!

or post this # in the activist forum...???
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:41 PM
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18. Thanks for posting this
Air America at the DFW Post Office? Wow! Amazing support from an unexpected source. That almost makes it worth them having held the mail. At least you got it back now and hopefully the people at the Crawford PO will not start delivering the mail as they should have been all along.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:45 PM
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20. Thank goodness Cindy's Mom is going to be ok!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:07 PM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:47 PM
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38. There is only so much room in this town
It is really a small town. So sure the protest should get huge, but Crawford just can't handle it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:11 PM
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:32 PM
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53. loverevolution, I have an idea.
Since you are full of so many great ideas why don't you come to Crawford and help facilitate this. Heck, maybe you could even help volunteer to keep track of what is being spent, where it is being spent and why it is being spent and is it really for Cindy.

You seem to have a great deal of knowledge about what we all should be doing and how it should be handled.

So, can you make it or not?

Have you called the Peace House yet?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:26 PM
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52. Are you there also ?
n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:15 PM
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55. I was there this week
Came home last night.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:17 PM
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56. I'm proud of you.
Thank you on behalf of those of us who wanted to and couldn't. :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:35 PM
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57. Oh how nice
I can't go to D.C. in September. We all can only do what we can do.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:15 PM
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58. I plan to go to DC
I'll wear your name on my chest....seriously !
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:25 PM
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60. Oh wow
Thanks :hug:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:19 PM
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28. Great News!
I'm so glad Cindy's mother is going to be okay. And your story was great. I have cried so many times wondering if my country is going to be destroyed by what Bush is doing, & wondering if anyone cares at all. It's obvious that I'm not the only one who cares, & I just need to be reminded of it once in awhile. Thanks!

Tammy
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:27 PM
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31. "Crawford Post Office was in the habit of holding on to the mail."
I know she said this was "technically possible" but I always thought it was a federal offense to obstruct the mail. If they had no numbered address for the Crawford Peace House then at least they should have returned it to sender asap.

I suppose, though, if the people in the highest branch of the government are crooks, it makes it ok for everyone else to be crooked.

Yay to the DFW office. I KNOW there are a lot of good people in Texas because a lot of them are fellow DUers!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:32 PM
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33. The people speak!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:59 PM
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46. Thanks for the update. n/t
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:15 PM
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47. This is wonderful news! Johnny, AirAmerica and the whole place comes
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 02:20 PM by anarchy1999
out and cheers. You should see the main processing center in Dallas, it is HUGE!

Postal workers for the main part are not a real big bunch of happy campers right now.

Also, Karen deserves many thank yous and a huge shout out! Kay has told me repeatedly what a tremendous help she has been. She is supposed to be leaving in the morning and Kay is not happy.

Can you imagine seeing a report on any network about this? It ought to be.

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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:27 PM
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49. Dianne Wilson mentioned a man who is a friend of Martin Luther King—
someone who marched with MLK—will be at the inter-faith meeting today
and they are expecting some singers also.

She did say that Joan Baez will be there on Sunday.

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/33news18.htm

The Lone Star Iconoclast
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:11 PM
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63. awesome !
wish I could be there....
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peace_on_earth Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:49 PM
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50. Awesome news all around!
So glad Cindy's & Dede's Mom is okay!

And I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more Camp Casey supporters on the government payroll around the country than we might think.

Welcome back to Camp, Cindy! We've missed you!
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:57 PM
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54. 1:40 p.m. Coordinators at Camp Casey just received a phone call from Cindy
Cindy says her mother is going to see some specialists this afternoon.
Cindy said that her mother recognized her and squeezed her hand, but could not speak.

Cindy is penciled in to return to Crawford on Sunday, if she can.


http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/33news18.htm
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:24 PM
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59. Happy news :)
So glad the stroke wasn't too severe.

:loveya: for Cindy, Dede and their Mom :D
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:36 PM
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61. Kick!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:47 PM
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62. Good to hear Cindy's mom is doing ok and she'll be retuning 2 Crawdford
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:50 PM
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64. the rank-and-file posties are onside!
I laughed and cried when I read about the visit to the DFW post office. I bet that the regular postal workers are going to be making sure that letters marked simply "Crawford Peace House, Texas, USA" get through!

The postal workers remember that the Anthrax Mailer is still out there ... and Bush doesn't seem the least bit concerned about justice.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:38 PM
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65. kick for the "night shift"
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:38 PM by jaysunb
n/t
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:48 AM
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66. Such good news! Thank you, Karen
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