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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 03:55 AM Original message |
THE LOUDEST CRY-LATimes: "Suicide Casts a Shadow on Conservation Battle" |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not ANOTHER left-winger suicide! |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Very sad |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 05:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. oh my. how sad. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. Marlene Braun was respected by many local residents, including some |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. Marlene Braun sent her papers to her friend, who wrote to her |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Here is a photo of Marlene Braun in happier days with her dogs. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. kick n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. Sad ...... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I truly hope there is a loving GOD and Heaven for someone |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. The collision of land use plans, conservation vs. for-profit activities |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. We're talking |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I do wonder how many cattle are in question compared to those on |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. I can't get any of the pictures to open! |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. I don't know why not, but some of the most important ones are in |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
64. Um, |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. My thinking is that the cattle graze differently from the native |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. An older article on use conflicts on Carrizo Plain- the problem is not new |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Banning hunting will go a long way toward... |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. It seems to me, with my superficial understanding, that it would be |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
11. kick |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. kick n/t |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
13. nominated |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. nominated as well. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. Kick - worth reading n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Carrizo Plain is part of 161 MILLION ACRES of public lands in the West |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. kick - It's "hard work" getting five votes for Greatest page! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. IMHO this story deserves it |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thanks - I agree with you. The huge scope of damage that is being done |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. so very disturbing |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Crying and done. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I know what you mean... |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yep; that's why I started crying. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. It's so sad - I'm imagining her believing that the dogs wouldn't be happy |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
22. That is really sad........... |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yes, suicide is never the answer - it's tragic that she was driven to it |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I must say I agree with that assesment...... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. it brought to mind |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Yes, exactly the same thing occurred to me. I do believe that her actions |
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Gay Green (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
67. "she could not find the hope/energy to try to begin again somewhere else" |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Yes, that's what they do all right. It's a horror how much like Orwell's |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
27. . |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. This is a heartbreaking story. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. Killing yourself is a stupid way to fight the bastards. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I agree. n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. kick n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. kick - GD moves FAST! n/t |
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Lilyhoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
41. ...some stagger and fall... |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. That is perfect. Thank you. There's another DU thread where a person |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. kick n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
45. kick n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. kick - GD really zooms! |
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BQueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
47. as someone who's been where she was, but pulled back |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Thank you so much for sharing this experience. There is no telling how |
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BQueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. The "workaholic" aspect may be part of hypomania |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Your story is sounding more and more familiar. I was "laid off" under |
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BQueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Fibro came up similarly with me, i think |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I don't buy Nutrasweet, but now I will more carefully check the labels of |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. I can really see how much that took, for you to tell us this |
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BQueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Thank you, it's important for people to know stories like this |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
52. kick - this tragic story has lessons for us all n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
54. kick n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
55. kick n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
57. ttt n/t |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
58. Thank you for sharing this story |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. But when poacher Claude Dallas murders - MURDERS - two game wardens . . . |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
61. kick n/t |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-20-05 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
62. Call me cynical |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. She did much more than leave a note. Here's just part of her careful |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
65. ANOTHER "suicide"? |
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Oerdin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. I've been to Carrizo |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Yes, it sounds like parts of Texas, where I grew up. The springtime wild |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. kick n/t |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-05 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
72. I spent a Summer in San Luis Obispo |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-05 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
73. Kick - I hope a lot of people read this article n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
75. A wise woman once told me, "The strong go crazy, the weak go along" n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Oh my, my hope is to find that middle ground where priorities are set |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
76. A wise woman once told me, "The strong go crazy, the weak go along" n/t |
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