You know what? FUCK Lance Armstrong.

[Tyler Durden]

A photo op with Bush while Camp Casey sits practically in the Pig Farm's front yard??

PIG. He belongs on the Pig Farm in my opinion. If I could retract donations, his foundation's would be first on the list.

[babylonsister]

1. Hey, look at it this way. Perhaps he'll

try to disable you-know-who in the interests of world peace!

[Tyler Durden]

3. SHAKE it! (couldn't resist).

If he runs Bush into a Mesquite, I MAY forgive him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. No one is allowed to pass the (p)resident.

What ever will Lance do? :shrug:

[PDittie]

17. Keeping his Priorities Straight

[Tin Man]

103. LOL - Good one! n/t

[City Lights]

30. No talking during the ride either.

** can't do two things simultaneously.

Staying on a moving bicycle is hard work.

[PDittie]

13. Stay the Course

[babylonsister]

18. CLASSIC-LOL!! nt

[Hubert Flottz]

19. I wish that the taxpayers would take up a collection and buy him

a Harley...

[natrat]

22. realy fast ninja sportbike

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. buy him an Intern too

[Auntie Bush]

102. Good idea. Maybe/hopefully he will go real fast around a turn on

loose gravel. I can just picture that! :rofl:

[abbeyco]

75. Classic photo!

Said as I wipe the lemonade from my screen & keyboard.

[Bluebear]

86. Love that pic!

[Tin Man]

104. Cut Lance some slack.

He had two hours alone with the president - maybe he talked some sense into the old fool.

[Fridays Child]

4. From your keypad to Lance's pedals.

nt

[DS1]

2. Should I run this through the GD Hysteria filter, or are you

really wanting to take back the money that went to cancer research?

:eyes:

[Tyler Durden]

7. LOTS of other Cancer Reseach out there.

I stopped giving to United Way for their homophobia, I feel I can tell ol' Lance to piss off for taking a ride for the camera with Bush.

I respect you and your postings, but I repeat: FUCK Lance. Ride with an outlaw, take the RAP with an outlaw.

[Darth_Kitten]

20. It's his call

:eyes:

[leesa]

82. You mean the money that went into the pockets of Bush's buddies in

Big Pharma? It's not nice to whore for money.

[eyesroll]

6. Yes. Because cancer research should depend on whether or not one rides

with the President in his home state.

:eyes:

[Tyler Durden]

9. I REPEAT: LOTS of Cancer Research out there.

Ride with an outlaw, take the RAP with an outlaw.

[bahrbearian]

21. Lance is from Connecticut?

[Bluebear]

85. Good one!

[BlueStatesForever]

37. Do you suppose

That a cancer survivor may be helping fund cancer research for his own self-interest? Don't you think Lance worries a little, late at night, that his cancer will return?

Besides that, I appreciate when I somehow find out that people have been doing nice things ANONYMOUSLY. When people make such a big deal of their own philanthropy, you KNOW it's PR.

[Walt Starr]

8. We all have choices with our donations

If he doesn't stop at Camp Casey, I'll have to find something else to donate to.

[Tyler Durden]

12. Right on WALT.

Their Homophobia stopped me from donating to United Way.

[blm]

10. One thing about Lance you may not be factoring in at this moment -

He's pretty self-aware and confident COMPLETELY on his own, and he is not shy about telling Bush where he thinks he's screwing up. I doubt there are even a handful of people who get close enough to Bush to say something.

[Jon8503]

11. I think we need to wait and see what comes out of it. Armstrong

seems to be an intelligent and genuine individual. He may see this as an opportunity to further the cause of working for cancer research. He has stated we needed to be more involved in the war on cancer than the other war we are involved in. I hate seeing him in the photo ops with Bush and that could hurt his cancer movement if he is not careful. After all over 1/2 of this country and probably higher now have no confidence in this man or his administration.

In closing Armstrong may want to keep a safe distance from Bush while riding, you know Bush's crash record and sent the Scot police officer to the hospital.

[lostnfound]

16. Exactly. Who knows what he will talk to him about??

Besides, it's a BIKE ride for crying out loud.

[Catrina]

23. He could have said 'while I am honored

by President Bush's invitation to go on a bike-ride, I feel that the president's time is limited. Therefore it would be inappropriate for me to take his time for something as trivial, (by comparison) as a bike-ride, when there are other way more important issues to which he, I'm sure, would rather give his time.

Therefore, I am giving up my time with the president to the mother of one of our heroes in Iraq, who has asked to speak to Mr. Bush and who has taken the trouble to go to Crawford to do so.'

Imagine the position that would put Bush in? Lance Armstrong could have struck a blow for his country today ~ he could have given his time to Cindy, leaving Bush with no excuse not to see her.

I too, would give to another organization if he turns out to be a collaborator in the death and destruction wrought on Iraq by this administration. He would not be a good spokesperson for saving lives, imo.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

111. I like this whole concept except for the "while I am honored" part

because you know it would be no honor.

[Hubert Flottz]

14. Lance got well because...

Bush gave him three tax cuts!

[Name removed]

15. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[goforit]

24. Like Bush.....Armstrong thinks he is God.

[abluelady]

29. Ah! Someone else has met Lance!

[Neshanic]

40. Jesus on a bike. He really believes ALL his publicity.

The "This Week" with "Stephitos the squeek" was borderline creepy.

[confuddled]

25. Indeed

Tyler, your post of 7/22/03 says it all - exquisitely.

[lonestarnot]

26. Never did care for this lung anyway.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Just another narcissistic jock entertaining another narcissist.

Big deal.

[geek tragedy]

31. Wow, this sounds like the Freepers who cursed Lance Armstrong

because he had a photo op with John Kerry.

[BlueStatesForever]

38. Yeah, well, who visited who?

So Kerry went and visited Lance at Tour de France and they get together for a picture.

Now Lance visits Bush for the photo op. It's different.

[geek tragedy]

41. Lance Armstrong lives in Texas, and he's raising funds for his cancer

foundation. And he's a social acquaintance of Bush.

Christ, not everyone lives by the rules of pathological hatred.

[monobrau]

58. I don't socialize with scum

Lance makes choices. He hangs with scum. Fuck him.

[BlueStatesForever]

68. Absolutely right.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

112. Just so. N/T

[BlueStatesForever]

67. Bush is evil

Bush isn't just any Republican. he's the Republican that's ruining our country.

People really have to realize you're cast by the friends you associate with.

Lance associates with evil, therefore.

Also, do you REALLY think Bush will throw his support at anything that doesn't help either Bush personally or his oil friends. Lance knows going in that playing with Bush on his ranch isn't getting him squat.

Puh-lease get off this false hero worship and come back to reality.

[geek tragedy]

71. He also associates with John Kerry, opposed the war in Iraq, is a strong

supporter of the separation of church and state, and in general is a liberal.

But, he takes a bike ride with the President of the United States, and people lose their fucking minds. It's pathetic.

[zanne]

114. He sounds like a libertarian.

Lofty goals and noble ideas, but in the end he'll do what's convenient for himself.

[tx_dem41]

115. Its the most pathetic thing I've seen during my time here.

Pretty soon, the community as a whole will just hate everyone (I think we're close already).

A community so filled with hate is a community that is incapable of doing anything constructive, and thus, incapable of leading.

[Tsiyu]

116. The little kids dying in Iraq don't give a damn about anybody's

social skills or policies.

If anyone would have the Preznent's ear right now, they should DEMAND that he stop the killing of our soldiers and of Iraqis. DEMAND it.

HE HAS CREATED HELL ON EARTH in another country. So he should have it heavenly over here?

[Hippo_Tron]

91. No, there's nothing different about it because DU would still be pissed

If Bush had gone to the Tour De France and asked for a photo op DU would've been up in arms if Lance had given any response than... "Fuck you Mr. President, I don't take pictures with war criminals." I have great respect for people that choose to voice their opinions in this manner. Lance has obviously chosen to voice his opinions in another manner and that's fine too.

Lance is trying to promote his cancer research and trying to get Bush to spend more federal money on it. Of course they were photographed, photographers follow the President EVERYWHERE.

[Mika]

50. That is about the only post ever made by you that I sorta agree with.

:shrug:

[geek tragedy]

56. Post about health care, the environment, and our tax system

and we'll probably agree more.

:toast:

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

32. I don't know Lances

politics, but this photo op doesn't do much for his image. Bad timing.
Or he could have said "let's meet our front there, with Cindy......."

[Bluebear]

84. Would that not have been refreshing?

[babyk]

33. Bono did a photo op with Bush

Im not sure a photo op means anything.

[geek tragedy]

42. It does for those with a pathological obsession. eom

[Lost4words]

63. I thought less of Bono after his photo op with dimson!

I think in the days to come we will find that lances brain is like his legs, all muscle.

[flvegan]

34. Actually, you should read this:

http://www.lancearmstrongfanclub.com/uktimesonline.html

It's an interview/discussion written by Alastair Campbell. Some snips below...

Once we settle down to talk at a long wooden table, we are swapping stories about George W. Bush, his fellow Texan. We agree that our politics are different to Bush's, but that the President is smarter, funnier and more likeable than the caricature. Even Sheryl, whose politics Armstrong describes as "way out Left", says that it's hard to meet Bush and not like him. I had assumed, because he and Bush were Texans and I'd seen pictures of them laughing and joking in the Oval Office, that Armstrong was a Republican. But he says his politics are "middle to Left". He is "against mixing up State and Church, not keen on guns, pro women's right to choose". And very anti war in Iraq.

So the "summit" has begun and here I am, thinking that I'd be getting hours of top-quality insight for my triathlon training, and, instead, it's like I am back in my old job, defending military action, defending the Bush-Blair relationship, insisting we did the right thing and saying, long term, it will make the world a safer place. But Armstrong is screwing up his face and he won't have it. "I don't like what the war has done to our country, to our economy," he says. "My kids will be paying for this war for some time to come. George Bush is a friend of mine and just as I say it to you, I'd say to him, 'Mr President, I'm not sure this war was such a good idea', and the good thing about him is he could take that."

I'm not defending Lance, nor his meeting with the chimpinator. Just trying to point some things out.

[Midlodemocrat]

48. I am shocked by this part of that link

"Even Sheryl, whose politics Armstrong describes as "way out Left", says that it's hard to meet Bush and not like him".

WTF? How can anyone meet him and LIKE him?

[MadHound]

53. As the old saying goes

The devil is known to be quite the charming fellow.

Look, I'm not terribly upset about this. Lance is doing what he has to do for his charity, and a photo op with the President helps him bring in the cash. In many ways this is akin to other champions, World Series winners, Superbowl winners, etc. doing a photo op with the President.

Lance is pretty left leaning in his politics, moreso than some folks around here, and gee, there is always Sheryl to keep him in line, and I know that she is quite liberal.

[Jon8503]

60. WTF is right, I don't buy that crap about how everyone would love

to sit down and have a beer with him. With what you know about the guy, he appears to be about as empty upstairs as space, nobody knows for sure what is there. He appears arrogant, know it all, spoiled, I sometimes think people just repeat what they have heard.

He can't complete sentences so how could you carry on a conversation long enough with him to know if you like him or not. You can't talk about what he has read lately.

Like you, can't see it.

[BlueStatesForever]

69. I'm sure many of the most evil dictators

were very nice fellows to party with. Bush is evil.
Lance is guilty by association.

[geek tragedy]

73. Did you also condemn George Galloway for his association with

Saddam Hussein?

[rucky]

49. Thank You! - answsers my question below

I needed a reason to keep liking him. I wouldn't be charmed by killer bush, myself, but this isn't a dealbreaker for me & Lance.

[gratuitous]

35. If you have one of those "Livestrong" bracelets

You might consider sending it back to them, and say that with Mr. Armstrong palling around with war criminal and subhuman George W. Bush, you found that the bracelet was just burning your skin wherever it touched. So many persons, military, civilian, alleged terrorist, and bystander, are unable to live -- strong, weak, or at all -- because of the heinous policies of Mr. Bush.

While you're all for cancer research and finding effective treatment, the hypocrisy of the bracelet (save for its yellow color) is just too much for you to wear it any longer.

[Joe the Revelator]

78. You and about 10 other people in this thread....

are about to spin right off this planet.

[gratuitous]

92. Gee, it seemed like a measured response to me

I wasn't saying that a person should demand their money back for the little gotza bracelet, just send the trinket back with an expression of disapproval for Armstrong's actions. I'm sorry free speech offends you so much.

[Joe the Revelator]

108. Yes, thats exactly it...

or it could be the fact that using words like "subhuman" and implying that the braclet is "burning your skin" makes one sound like a complete and utter nut instead of conveying the correct message. I have nothing against free speech, make your letter as nutty as you want, I'm just pointing out how it sounds.

[Neshanic]

36. Some here saying Lance will tell Bush what's what. Riiiight.

I think French monkeys will fly out of Lance's ass before he opens his yaw about the war.

I mean REALLY. Lance Armstrong is going to school this guy on anything? Are there two chimps in Crawford, because the vicious, sick, little creep that thinks he is always right, and has no problem going to war like Norman Bates dresses like his mom, is the only one there I know.

Worshipping sports stars does have a limit.

[tx_dem41]

39. I know few will understand this....

but somethings are more important than politics.

[Catchawave]

43. Are the "morans" forgetting......

He endorsed Paris last year for the Olympic games ! It was deemed "unpatriotic" for about 12 seconds on the MSM, then buried, with all the other hypocritcal bullsh*t.

This guy is NO HERO, he dumped his wife (family value?) because she had a hard time handling the "spotlight" with him. D'oh, she did support him through the cancer thing :shrug: Oh yeah, mom to his kids too, a lonely job during his gazillion hours of training, ya think!?!

He's planning on running for office...:silly:

[BamaLefty]

44. Oh Really?

And consider that his g/f is Sheryl "Rock Against Bush" Crow? Please man. . . give Lance a break!

[lildreamer316]

45. Please make this its own post.

This is ridiculous.(other posts)
And if anyone was REALLY paying att.; if he wants to run for office he has to KNOW HIS OPPOSITION.
Hello. Get a CLUE ppl.

[ToeBot]

52. So he's gonna run against Kerry, I thought he was from Texas? n/t

[wndycty]

55. You forget some DUers are nothing but liberal freepers. . .

. . .different politics some chemical imbalance.

[geek tragedy]

66. Exactly what I was thinking. eom

[geek tragedy]

64. Stupid Freepers and stupid DU'ers can agree: Lance Armstrong

is an asshole because he had a photo op with (Kerry/Bush).

[BlueStatesForever]

70. Kerry visited LANCE

not the other way around.

Besides, I can name you another couple of politics makes strange bedfellows couples:

Ahnold and Maria
Carville and Matlin.

Just because his girlfriend is dem it doesn't make him dem. Also, any liberal policies he happens to have, I'll tell you that Ahnold has pretty much the same ones.

In addition, Lance is self-proclaimed left-leaning. However, name one high profile Democrat that has ever visited the president for a social outing. Name just one.

[lildreamer316]

46. You are really really off base here.

and you are doing some damage. Please read post #34. This is not constructive at all and playing right into the freeps hands. You are justifying alot of what they say about the left. Please; let's be reasonable. Even I knew he was left leaning before this.

[geek tragedy]

65. We laugh at the Freepers when they react this way.

Reactionary fools come in all political stripes.

[rucky]

47. Isn't Cheryl Crow a lefty?

not like that matters. I'm just unsure about Lance's political influence.

[Mika]

51. When she's not hawking Michael Dell's PC's

Michael Dell's campaign contributions

[SiouxJ]

57. Perhaps she's changed but I remember when she pulled this stunt

Wore this T on Good Morning America or Today or something. Then there was this one at the Grammys a year or two ago:

[Bluebear]

107. Those were great

[BlueStatesForever]

72. I can think of some other couples

Ahnold and Maria
Carville and Matlin.

Sheryl Crow's leftyness doesn't make Lance a Lefty.

Lance is a righty, face it. Even Kerry said he worried if Lance ran for office which side he would run on. I think he'd run as a Republican.

He isn't just any Republican, either, he affiliated himself with the scum in the Whitehouse, the murderous liar who got us into this fruitless pointless war, who condones the outing of CIA agents, who ruins our country.

This isn't freeping, this is calling a spade, a spade. Lance is fraternizing with evil. He who lies with rats gets rat feces covered.

[Bluebear]

88. Word.

[proud2BlibKansan]

54. I agree

What a lame thing to do.

[earth mom]

59. I hear ya.

My opinion of Lance has gone done several notches because of this little b.s bike ride. I used to think he was pretty cool.

Furthermore, I am disgusted with many other celebrities like Oprah who have the money and the power and the media access to open peoples eyes and sway peoples opinions about * & Co!!! Why are they siting on their asses and by their silence endorsing the BFEE???!!!

Meanwhile Cindy Sheehan and all the good people at Camp Casey are practically screaming at the top of their lungs for the people of this country to hear of the evil that the BFEE has perpetrated! Only the majority of the people cannot hear them because Cindy and the good people at Camp Casey don't have the same kind of access to the media!!!

AAARRRGGGHHHH! :argh:

:rant:

[SeveneightyWhoa]

61. You're liberal?

Are you sure?

With stuff like this..

"PIG. He belongs on the Pig Farm in my opinion. If I could retract donations, his foundation's would be first on the list."

..You don't seem any different than a hateful freeper.

[Bluebear]

87. Liberals get mad too!

All too rarely but they do.

[cloud75]

62. you have a point there is he would show up to a photo op with Cindy

fox news et al. would be the first to boycott anything to do with Lance Armstrong.

[aaronnyc]

74. Lance is trying to benefit his cause

If you are trying to raise money for cancer research, it is a good idea to meet with the president of the United States. He'd be doing a pretty lousy job if he allowed partisan politics to take priority over his cancer foundation.

Give it a rest. Lance Armstrong was at the Kerry headquarters on election night 2004. He is a Democrat, who is simply smart enough to understand that having a good relationship with Bush, could encourage the gov't to to spend more money on cancer research - and saves people's lives. It sounds like Lance has his priorities in order - but I'm not so sure about you.

[Hippo_Tron]

89. Agreed

[grumpy old fart]

99. He's gonna run for office....that's his agenda...all about "me"...fuck him

[Bluebear]

101. I guess I would feel different if it were a visit at the White House

On behalf of cancer funding.

[Imagevision]

76. I read Lance is schedualed to meet with Cindy upon her return.

[BlueStatesForever]

94. Please post a link

[Bluebear]

97. Did he greet the people that *were* there?

Just wondering.

[Lori Price CLG]

77. Armstrong is a Reichwing maggot. n/t

[youngred]

79. I have to disagree my old friend

Lance is a Democrat (who John Kerry is trying to get to run for Congress) and an inspirational story. But, like Bono, he doesn't let his personal politics get in the way of trying to help more people.

I would hope he would have used some of those two hours with * to get his message across.

[Bluebear]

83. I would hope so too, but since we probably will never know...

I have to say there are other cancer funds I can/will donate to.

[BlueStatesForever]

93. John Kerry even has doubts

that Lance is a Democrat. Do a google search on one of the articles about the Tour De France meeting.

Lance isn't a Democrat. When is the last time Bush met with a Democrat? (hint, say never, and you'll probably be right)

Lance is an "Ahnold" Republican. He is NO Democrat.

[Bluebear]

95. Indeed. nt

[ignatius 2]

80. I agree,Tyler,fuck him and the bike he rode in on. If he really is

against the war, this is a pathetic and ignorant way to show it. He knows he has celebrity,he knows most Americans worship celebrity, and he knows what he says won't matter one bit..it is the fucking photo ops that people will remember.

And if he really expects this pResident to give half a shit about cancer research.that's a good one. His hospital,doctor and pharmaceuritcal friends would never let that happen,hell,60% of the hospitals would be empty if the cancer patients went home.

Hell.Armstrong can ride the shit out of a bike,seems to me he is healthy enough to ride a humvee in Iraq..go over there Lance,your president says it is the greatest calling of all!

[Justpat]

81. I second that emotion.

[goodboy]

90. I saw a family of 5 in those yellow bracelets yesterday...are they

supposed to make you ride faster or something?

[in_cog_ni_to]

96. Let's have a LIVE STRONG bracelet burning.

Actually, ours went in the garbage today....never to be worn again. Does Armstrong REALLY believe the idiot is going to do ANYTHING to help with cancer research? Foolish, foolish, foolish move on Armstrong's part.. He also lost a lot of support from we 'ordinary' folk. STUPID thing for him to do! Dumb, dumb, dumb.

He could have postponed that meeting until the idiot was back in DC. He didn't have to do it while Cindy and the protesters are in Crawford. Shame on him.

I'm also surprised the idiot actually allowed a Dem on his faux ranch.

Have a LIVE STRONG BRACELET BURNING.

[grumpy old fart]

98. If he cared about his cause, he'd be apolitical....but......

looks like he's just repug trash.....rich boy likes the tax cuts....fuck him....

[Maddy McCall]

100. Whoa. That's completely uncalled for.

We know where Lance's heart is. We know where his wife's heart is.

Maybe Sheryl will make an appearance at Camp Casey.

[ls317]

105. My Two Cents

Lance meeting with GWB was all about a photo -op... Maybe he has hope of running for office.???
When you have completed one of the most accomplished athletic events in the world of sports...To finish the Tour De France and win it.But yet win 7 of them...
That meeting was all about PR... No more no less..( Who will donate $$$$ to my cancer foundation)


Check out this site http://www.newsmeat.com
It shows any donation that has been made to either party since 1977.. By Business CEOS.Actors/Actress... Sportsstars...
I am sure there are some Yankees Fans will be surprised that when they find that A-ROD made a donation to the Repugs...

[Donailin]

106. Amen to that. That's why I said this in another thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4409859&mesg_id=4410204

[Liberal In Texas]

109. I really, really think I do not want to FUCK Lance Armstrong.

But thanks for asking.

You might want to refer this thread to Cheryl Crow.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

110. I agree, Camping at Casey Trumps Tour De Crawford anyday. N/T

[Romberry]

113. Wow! It's like the mirror image of...

...a post from a person that rhymes with "Deeper." Dude, calm down! You're off into deeperville.

[mtnsnake]

117. Look at it this way. He met w/Kerry a year ago & Kerry suffered a terrible

loss in the election.

So maybe he'll bring Bush the same kind of luck....as in future impeachment?