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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:34 PM
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Right wing group opposes vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer
By the year 2050, scientists fear that “deaths from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year … mainly in developing countries.” The good news is that this outbreak and thousands of preventable deaths “could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved vaccines against causes most cases of cervical cancer.” The problem is that HPV is sexually transmitted and “opposition to the vaccines might lead to many preventable deaths.”

In the United States, “religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 percent of parents favor vaccinating their daughters.” Staunchly conservative religious groups like the Family Research Council oppose the vaccine on the shaky claim that “Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful because they may see it as a license to engage in premarital sex.”

However, this is the same Family Research Council that opposes condoms and the notion of “safe sex” because HPV, one of the most common STDs, can be spread by skin contact and so “condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV.” Family Research Council has spent so much time harping on the chance that HPV will be passed in ways other than bodily fluid transmission during sexual intercourse, yet is still opposed to this vaccine. Unfortunately, its past rhetoric is now coming back to haunt it.

http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=800
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:43 PM
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1. "W"? Any comments?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:38 PM
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22. Uh, oh yeah, W is for women!
So many of my repug female relatives say, anyway! Will he say anything in opposition to the FRC? I won't be holding my breath.
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:47 PM
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2. The US economy can only take so much of this!
Other countries have drug companies too. With this kind of idiotic progress-stunting lobby group, how long will it take them to take over for good?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:48 PM
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3. Goddamned sick fucks!
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 05:58 PM by TahitiNut
Yeah, that's the ticket! Let people get ill and die miserably in order to "discourage" any intercourse whatsoever, not just 'premarital' sexual relations!!

Vicious goddamned perverted bastards!

"We found that some Asian women in Britain are afraid even to get tested for HPV infection, because they say if it is positive they will be killed, never mind that their husbands probably gave it to them," says Szarewski. She feels that such attitudes may mean that HPV vaccination may be a non-starter in such communities.
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg18624954.500
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:52 PM
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4. By all means, save those precious fundamentalist female sex....
...organs for the two purposes that God meant them to be used for, procreation and the domination of the highest order of cro-magnon males in the food chain. Screw the general health women throughout the world. The most important priority is that one tenth of one percent of fanatical fundamentalist Christians perpetuate their moral values and social lie on the rest of th entire population of the world!:rant: #1

Cancer is both curable and preventable. Why is it that a small minority of ignorant superstitious mindless sheeple are able to continually disrupt the lives, liberties and the pursuits of happiness which is guaranteed to all people who live in the United States of America? !:rant: #2
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:54 PM
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5. Then why after
30 years of marriage am I encouraged to get an annual PAP smear?

I think all the Family Research Council women should decline to get PAP smears. They don't need them based on their analysis of how HPV is transmitted. After all they and their husbands are all totally faithful and were virgins when they were married.

These people aren't just nuts, they're stupid, too.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:01 PM
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7. Like all such fascist perverts, they "hate us for our freedoms" ...
... but make sure their own options are kept open. Criminalize abortion and those wealthy enough will always be able to go to another country for one. They get their orgasms from oppressing others.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:55 PM
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6. I wonder if they would be so opposed to a vaccine for prostate cancer?
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 05:58 PM by BrklynLiberal
Disgusting misogynistic fucks.

"If men got pregnant abortion would be sacrament."
Cannot remember who said it first, but it is still as true as it was then.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:15 PM
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8. IIRC
it was Gloria Steinam. But, I've had a couple of glasses of wine, so maybe IIRC not. Maybe it was Gloria who said "Women need a man like fish need a bicycle." :o
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:51 PM
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12. Curiosoty got the bestof me. had to google it.
If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

* Florynce Kennedy
(1916 — 2000)

http://www.crmvet.org/mem/kennedyf.htm

"When you want to get to the suites, start in the streets."

A lawyer and political activist, whose flamboyant attire and sometimes- outrageous comments drew attention to her fierce struggle for civil rights and feminism.

Long before many of use knew about a "movement" Flo, as she was commonly known, was an activist. Recognizable everywhere in cowboy hat and pink sunglasses. When she was denied admission to Columbia Law School, because she was "a woman". Flo promptly sued the law school "saying that they had denied her admission because she was Black." She was admitted. Becoming the first African American woman to graduate from Columbia Law School.

Flo was flamboyant, outspoken and deeply committed to several liberal causes. She fought tirelessly in court and on the streets for civil, human and women's rights. Flo was one of the founding members of the National Women's Political Caucus and the national Feminist Party.

She was a friend with everyone, the greats and near greats from feminist Gloria Steinem to former Mayor David Dinkins. Her legal clients ranged from the Black Panthers to Civil Rights Activist H. Rap Brown to the estates of Billie Holiday and Charlie Parker.

"Handling the Holiday and Parker estates taught me more than I was really ready for about government and business delinquency and the hostility and helplessness of the courts," she wrote. "Not only was I not earning a decent living, there began to be a serious question in my mind whether practicing law could ever be an effective means of changing society or even of simple resistance to oppression."

She turned to political activism, setting up an organization called the Media Workshop in 1966 to fight racism in journalism and advertising. Picketing an advertising agency led to the protesters' being invited upstairs to state their case. She said, "Ever since I've been able to say, `When you want to get to the suites, start in the streets.' "

Her strategy became to go after the biggest targets possible. "Grass- roots organizing is like climbing into bed with a malaria patient in order to show how much you love him or her, then catching malaria yourself," she wrote. "I say if you want to kill poverty, go to Wall Street and kick - or disrupt."

Increasingly, her legal cases were almost always political. "Sweetie," she said, "if you're not living on the edge, then you're taking up space."

My friend Florynce Kennedy showed me how to use the power of community television. "I'm big on consumer activism" she would say matter of factly "Only when it hurts their pocketbook do they act".

Flo founded the "Media Workshop" and threaten product boycott if the major advertisers did not use Black people in their ads.

As her health failed, her spirit did not. In her autobiography, she wrote: "I'm just a loud-mouthed, middle-aged colored lady with a fused spine and three feet of intestines missing, and a lot of people think I'm crazy. Maybe you do too, but I never stopped to wonder why I'm not like other people. The mystery to me is why more people aren't like me."

"If you found a cause for the downtrodden of somebody being abused someplace, by God, Flo Kennedy would be there," former Mayor David N. Dinkins of New York said.

People magazine in 1974 called her "the biggest, loudest and, indisputably, the rudest mouth on the battleground where feminist activists and radical politics join in mostly common cause."

Justice Emily Jane Goodman of New York State Supreme Court said Ms. Kennedy gave women courage. "She showed a whole generation of us the right way to live our lives," Justice Goodman said.

Gloria Steinem coined the phrase "verbal karate'' to describe Kennedy's style. Kennedy had a knack for taking complex issues and reducing them to the core concept that exposed bigotry or encouraged action or did whatever the subject required.

Ms. Steinem said, "She understood what Emma Goldman understood: there has to be laughter and fun at the revolution, or it isn't a revolution."

Marie Wilson, president of the Ms. Foundation, stated Ms. Kennedy "one of the most wonderfully outrageous pioneers of feminism in America."

Ms. Kennedy gave an emphatic yes. "Her point was that you have to fight on all the fronts all the time," Justice Goodman said.

Other fronts included founding the Feminist Party in 1971. Its first act was to nominate Representative Shirley Chisholm, Democrat of New York, for president.

In 1967, Ms. Kennedy attended a rally against the Vietnam War in Montreal. Bobby Seale, the Black Panther, was not allowed to speak. "I went berserk," she wrote. "I took the platform and started yelling and hollering." An invitation for Ms. Kennedy to speak in Washington followed, and a 20-year lecturing career was born.

According to Kennedy's obituary in The New York Times, their lectures frequently drew men to their audience and all too often one of them stood up and asked, "Are you lesbians?''

Florynce Rae Kennedy, the second of five daughters, was born on Feb. 11, 1916, in Kansas City, Mo. Her father was a Pullman porter and later owned a taxi business. He once stood up with a shotgun to members of the Ku Klux Klan who wanted to drive him from a home he had bought in a mainly white neighborhood.

In her autobiography, "Color Me Flo: My Hard Life and Good Times" (1976), she said her parents almost never criticized their daughters. In fact, they could seemingly do almost no wrong. "We were taught very early in the game that we didn't have to respect the teachers, and if they threatened to hit us, we could act as if they weren't anybody we had to pay any attention to."

After graduating from high school, Ms. Kennedy opened a hat shop in Kansas City with her sisters. Within a few years, she was involved in her first political protest, helping organize a boycott when the local Coca-Cola bottler refused to hire black truck drivers.

In 1957, Ms. Kennedy married Charles Dye, a writer 10 years her junior. He died a few years later. "Anyone who marries a drunk Welshman doesn't deserve sympathy," she once said. Her views on the exclusivity of marriage were not much brighter. "Why would you lock yourself in the bathroom just because you have to go three times a day," she wrote.



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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:59 PM
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14. Thank you !
I stand corrected. :hi:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:43 PM
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11. I wonder if Lance brought it up on his bike ride today
?
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:17 PM
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9. I realize the arguments involving misogyny and religion,
and largely agree with them, but there's also another undercurrent in play:

The War on Drugs = The War on People = The War on Drugs
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:23 PM
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10. And these scumbags claim that they are Christians!
They would have persecuted Christ for curing the ill, claiming that the cures constituted a license to engage in sinful lifestyles.

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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:55 PM
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13. Let them protest this one, they will not get anywhere with it, and they
will show themselves as the asses they are. Let them try to explain why they are against this on national television. Nothing could help our cause more.

FYI- CNBC has been talking about the company that came up with this drug for over a month, more or less telling everyone to buy the stock, and what a break through this is for womens health. The fundies will not have a snowballs chance in hell with this one, with all of the dollars that have been invested in that company. Let them protest all they want, they will not get anywhere with it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:03 PM
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15. This is where it all falls apart. It is not about saving lives..their
policies on reproductive rights. It is about saving the lives of those they deem to have lives worth saving --- like a fetus instead of a sexually active woman.


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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:04 PM
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16. Thats less money that gets paid out in social security
Thats why they don't give a shit about stem cell research or any other things that might save someones life.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:55 AM
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17. .....
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:23 PM
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18. Is any more proof needed....
that the Religious Right is mostly interested in controlling other people's
sex lives, not is the Sanctity of Life?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:26 PM
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19. Anti-Life, Culture of Death.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:27 PM
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20. ah more from the Flat Earthers.
Idiots.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:31 PM
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21. As a survivor - I take this fucking PERSONALLY!
I was 18 when I got my first abnormal pap smear but for the next seven years, 80% of them came back ok. After the next 10 years of no health insurance (hence no checkups) I ended up with cancer.
I now have to declare bankruptcy to pay the hospital bills - but at least I am alive. These poor women will not get the med. help I did.
:mad: :cry:
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