A simple question for all those slamming Lance Armstrong:

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Do you join me in condemning and repudiating George Galloway for his repeated cozying up to Saddam Hussein in Iraq and ideological allies of Al Qaeda in Great Britain?

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1. Talk about non sequiturs nt

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2. Not a non-sequitur at all. I'm really interested in hearing why

people worship someone like Galloway but condemn Armstrong around here.

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12. because despite being pro-terrorist, pro-saddam

he is anti-Bush. For some, to quote a person on this board who said Stalin is better than Bush, "the merits outweigh the demerits".

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3. .

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4. Lance has always been a lover of things bushgang

pooie on him.

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7. And Galloway has always been a fan of anti-American dictatorships. eom

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5. Galloway and Hussein

Galloway consistantly opposed and protested the Hussein regime while the US and the UK considered him an ally.

As for cozying up to "ideological allies of Al Qaeda" you're going to have to provide links for such allegations.

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6. Galloway stopped opposing Saddam when Saddam became

an enemy of the United States. After the first Gulf War, Galloway began a series of obsequioust visits to Baghdad to visit Saddam, whose courage he saluted, and his "dear, dear" friend, Tariq Aziz, whom Galloway is demanding be set free and be allowed to avoid trial for his role in Saddam's government.

As far as Galloway's coziness with radical Islamists, we can begin by remembering that a key member of his RESPECT coalition is an alter-ego of the Muslim Brotherhood.

And then there's Dr Muhammad al-Massari.



Dr. Massari is the figure in the center of the screen. I assume you recognize the Scottish chap in the upper left corner.

Galloway did more than ride a bike with Dr. Massari:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199798/cmselect/cmstnprv/179ii/sp0208.htm#note32

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I confirm that the "Massari Must Stay" campaign - the campaign against my deportation - was run by Lord Avebury and Mr Galloway from Mr Galloway's office at 7 Millbank. But it was run by them as individuals not on behalf of any company and certainly not for any financial benefit on the part of either gentlemen or myself.
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Some background on Dr. Massari:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/03_march/07/fivelive_report.shtml

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A Saudi extremist who helped Osama Bin Laden open a UK office in the mid-Nineties and now claims it is legitimate for Muslims to assassinate the Prime Minister resides in the UK with indefinite leave to remain, a report on Radio Five Live (Sunday 7 March, 11.00am) reveals.



Speaking about whether British troops and the Prime Minister were proper targets according to his interpretation of Islamic law, Dr Mohammed Al Massari - who lives in Wembley, North London - told reporter Navid Akhtar:

. . .

The Five Live Report asked Al Massari why he had helped Bin Laden.



He responded: "It's the same cause. It's the same ideas."

Asked whether he would help him again Al Massari replied: "Yeah, if we can help anything, why not?"
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More:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4161314.stm

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MPs are calling on the government to close down a London-based radio station broadcasting in Iraq and Saudi Arabia calls for attacks on UK troops.

Tory MP Patrick Mercer said Al-Tajdeed Radio, run by Saudi dissident Dr Muhammad al-Massari, was "desperately demoralising" for UK troops in Iraq.
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Dr al-Massari, who has lived in London since he sought asylum in the UK in 1994, has frequently declared that British troops in Iraq were legitimate targets and has posted videos of bomb attacks on them on his website.

His radio station carries similar views, as well as songs calling for Muslims to join a jihad, or holy war, against coalition forces.

. . .

A frequently heard voice on the station is that of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is thought to be al-Qaeda's military leader in Iraq.
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Even more on the good Dr.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1734906_1,00.html

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A PROMINENT London-based Saudi dissident, Muhammed al-Massari, is running a website that features a guide to urban warfare for potential terrorists.

In a series of video and audio clips, the Beginner’s Guide for Mujahed gives detailed advice on physical training, the surveillance of enemy targets and operational tactics.

It features footage of an Arab instructor who recommends would-be holy warriors to invest in a knife for self-
defence, saying: “Of course, this knife is mainly for stabbing and is not suitable or good for beheadings.”

Referring to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq whose followers murdered the British hostage Ken Bigley by slitting his throat, the instructor adds: “As far as beheadings are concerned, we ask our brothers to seek Abu Musab’s advice on this issue as he has more experience in this.”

Another section focuses on the use of binoculars and night vision equipment for the surveillance of “human enemy or enemy targets or vehicles”.

The instructor implores Allah to “grant his mujaheddin victory over . . . the Jews, the Americans and the apostates”.
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George Galloway: Supporter of the Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein, and radical Islamist allies of Osama bin Laden.

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8. Put me down for a "no" on that.

First, I do not really care about the cult of personality. So I never supported Galloway, as a person. What I would support is the way he asked tough questions about/to the Bush administration. The usual Bush administration response is to smear the questioner rather than answer the questions. I will not be a part of that, nor do I wish to be distracted by that.

George Galloway is not my enemy, Ming is, as Flash Gordon said "Let's all team up and fight him."

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9. No. I don't agree with the analogy. Also I haven't paid much attention to

...the Lance threads, however my wife has (Beats me why, I guess I just don't care about reading 20 threads on the same subject at the same sitting), are you bashing him too?

Back to your question.

"George Galloway for his repeated cozying up to Saddam Hussein"

While Miriams Appeal lobbying may look bad to you I don't believe that Cindy was out-side of the palace at the time. This is a timing issue. Also while Bono has cozied up to Helms <shudder> it's been on an office an on-topic basis. Going bike-riding with Bush NOW, with Cindy and others right outside, is simply gross. A WH visit to discuss NIH funding would not be gross, probably a waist of time but not gross.

"ideological allies of Al Qaeda in Great Britain"

Bullshit.

"The Bethnal Green and Bow MP said he condemned bombings, whether they were in London or Iraq.

The al-Qaeda phenomenon arose out of the first Iraq war, the occupation of Jerusalem and western support for "corrupt" leaders, he argued.

Mr Galloway said he wanted to "dry up the swamp" used by al-Qaeda and reach those who had not yet joined Bin Laden.

He added: "If it is a question of quantum, there is far more blood on the hands of George Bush and Tony Blair than there is on the hands of the murderers who killed those people in London."


Ideological ally my ass.

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10. Check out his efforts on behalf of Dr. Massari, who belongs in jail, if

not a deportation hearing.

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15. Those deportation hearings were in the mid-90's.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:E0o9idEVGFkJ:www.theherald.co.uk/45286.shtml+%22George+Galloway%22++Massari+&hl=en

"George Galloway, who a decade ago campaigned against Dr al Massari's deportation before falling out with him, last night agreed that if the station had broken British laws action should be taken."

Galloway, and I would assume most Liberals, hates the House of Saud so his aiding an enemy of that House a decade ago is hardly blistering rhetoric. So he's a baddy now? BFD.

Still bashing Lancy?

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11. Lance spends 2 hrs with Bush and all the rest with Sheryl Crow.

I wouldn't worry about his politics.

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13. there you go again... attacking lefties with RW BULLSHIT...

pretty lame.

peace

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14. Galloway defends the other side? What a scoundrel!

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16. Locking...

This is flamebait.