Smack Down at my blog...

[evilqueen]

This is my response to all the freepers who've been visiting my blog, other blogs I happen to work at, and yes, even those who are undercover as sockpuppets here and in other Liberal forums and blogs...

Do you fail to see a great disconnect between Bush's first justifications for invasion and the 22 later justifications which have ALL been debunked as false?

As for Ms. Sheehan... have you ever heard of post traumatic stress disorder? The woman was in shock during that meeting, she saw then what she wanted to see. In the meantime, between that meeting and now, we've had the disclosures of the Downing Street minutes and related documents, the proof that the Niger yellowcake documents were forgeries, and absolutely NO PROOF that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11... and yet this is the drum this president keeps trying to beat, to draw a connection where none exists.

"Islam will be "the main source" of Iraq's law and parliament will observe religious principles, negotiators said on Saturday after what some called a major turn in talks on the constitution and a shift in the U.S. position."

Americans just "freed" the Iraqis so they could live under Islamic law. That's quite a goddamned achievement. You must be so proud. Are you proud of what you've done? You just "freed" 13 million women into second class citizenship -- probably into hell. Are you now going to say to them -- Tough luck ladies. Don't worry, though, your granddaughters might get their rights back in their lifetimes. You can't stop progress, you know.

Iraqi women's lives have already become demonstrably less free. This will codify it. And tough shit if you're gay or secular or different in any way. Some fucking freedom.

I'm making it my business to remind every Republican asshole I run across that it wasn't the Liberals who turned Iraq into a theocracy. This is happening on YOUR watch, under YOUR auspices. We Liberals don't believe in theocracy. YOU Republicans do. YOU do not believe in freedom. We do.

I don't think the world can take much more of YOUR brand of "freedom and democracy."

Let's not forget Bush's fiscal legacy. The porky Congressional Republicans have done their share of digging the hole and everyone who voted for them shares that legacy, but the Shovel-in-Chief gets the credit for transforming it into a near abyss. When we're trying to climb out over the next few decades, the Republicans will try to refuse responsibility (as they always do!), blame it on Clinton or Sens. Byrd or Kennedy, "the liberals," anyone but themselves. For a party that's supposedly in favor of "personal responsibility" the Republicans certainly don't walk the walk.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the gall of those who attack Cindy Sheehan after news cycles are filled with a woman saying that everyone knows these claims about the "noble cause" aren't true, and she just wants to know, really, why her son died. Attack the messenger and ignore the message, is that it?

Well, fuck off, you desperate losers and start examining the lies of the president instead of the words of a mother in grief.

[Wetzelbill]

1. Nicely said and NOMINATED!!!!

[evilqueen]

3. thanks

And borrowing from Uncle Mike : Have I said today how much I hate these people??

grrrrrr...

[ngGale]

2. Excellent ....

and also nominated ...way to kick butt.

[evilqueen]

4. and thanks

I smack them every chance I get. I have a whole category of essays over there, proving what a bunch of liars we have in charge, and these idiots come over and spout talking points they can't possibly defend. Aggravating as hell!

[existentialist]

62. Questions.

In your opinion, how many of these idiots spouting talking points that they cannot defend really never the less really believe what they are saying, and are thus speaking from ignorance?

How many know full well that they are lying?


Of those that know that they are lying, what can be their motivation in doing so?

Money?

Career?

How can continuing to support disastrous policies be in anyone's long term interest, including their own?

How can continuing to degrade the political debate in this country be in anyone's long term interest, including their own.


Please forgive if I have digressed, but I too feel your anger at having good facts and arguments met with superficiality, vicious personal attacks and lies.

And I really cannot see how any balanced person can continue to put out the kind of drivel which you have described, and which is so patently present in the national discourse.

I keep thinking that if it is once exposed for what it is, then it can no longer persist. Yet to a large number of people it is so exposed, yet it persists.

[existentialist]

64. One more question.

I came across this post after the carnage, and read all of it that remained after the deletes. I can picture the pseudo-arguments made by the freeper troll whose handle and comments were deleted. I don't have much interest in the deleted comments, but, on the theory that forewarned is for armed, what was the handle in case he comes back?

[lvx35]

5. nominated.

Last sentence sums it up. Dumbasses take their eyes off the most powerful man in the world to scrutinize some mother whose children died.

[evilqueen]

6. darn right... it's always a diversion

because they either can't or WON'T examine the reality of this incompetent administration which is destroying America in the name of profits.

And thank you everybody for the nominations. First time for me. :)

[smurfygirl]

7. beautifully written

mind if I share?

[evilqueen]

8. No, I don't mind at all.

Fact of the matter is, I've already had to disapprove two comments over there because of either asshattery or off-topic... which is what I expected to see. They can't argue the topic at hand, they have to resort to ad hominem attacks or diversion.

Heh.

[xchrom]

9. conservative women don't care about women anymore than

their men do.

they really are of one voice and have remarkably alot in common with those bushco names terrorists.

so it's no surprise that the current u.s. coprporate power finds it easy to get along with conservative islamists.

what do the civil rights of anyone matter to them?

[evilqueen]

10. overall, I'd tend to agree with you, but...

the women in the Bush family are supposedly secretly pro-choice. I wonder what the fundamentalists would think if they knew that?

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

12. They'd burn the heathens at the stake is what!!!!!

Gays!!!! All of them! :crazy:

[akarnitz]

11. "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner spotted in Tehran

[evilqueen]

13. LOL - #11 and #12 n/t

[rosesaylavee]

14. 'Sock puppets' - great & nominated

Love that phrase - go get em.

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[rosesaylavee]

16. Great that you have the stamina to reply

to this drivel.

[vickitulsa]

19. I'm glad of that also. I admire anyone who can bear to read

what these sockpuppets write -- or I should say what they spew, to be precise. ;)

And I love the sockpuppet term, too! Right on!

I think coined words such as that are so much stronger, carry more weight, than regular old cusswords like asshole. Reveals your creativity and intellectual grasp of realities, too.

Excellent work, please do keep on carrying on.

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[rosesaylavee]

20. How odd that you take the time

to do that?

Not sure what your post is supposed to mean to DU users other than there are freepers on the site spreading disinformation. That seems to be obvious given the misspellings and non sequitors that I occasionally come across.

Must be PROVIDENSE* that you have chosen this thread this morning.


*see signage posted this am from Camp Casey.

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[SammyWinstonJack]

24. Why do you keep coming back?

:shrug:

[rosesaylavee]

27. Looks like our little buddy

was taken away. **Sigh**

I can't think of what kind of time these people have that do that. I would say get a life but that it is obvious that they are so consumed by their hate that they have no life to speak of.

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[rosesaylavee]

31. Rather than repeat that bit about lack of free speech on DU

ad nauseum - why don't you answer my question. Why do you spend the time doing this? Attacking others seldom wins people to your side of the argument.

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[rosesaylavee]

35. How amusing...

You really can't say anything of other than that tired 'No one is letting me speak my mind' thing.

Have you noticed that you are still here on this thread? Guess you are not the threat you think you are.

I already stated why I post here - why do you?

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[rosesaylavee]

39. So what?

Say something if you have it in you. Fly, be free. I really think you have shot your wad with the 'no one will let me post here' thing.

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[rosesaylavee]

43. Ok - I am still waiting for a political statement

Haven't heard one yet that is more than this site won't let you post. You are posting. Say what you think and let it be.

I am logging off now to get my day started but will check back later to see your response.

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[buddysmellgood]

69. I can't see what the freep was saying, but by your posts, I must say, you

handled it well.

[FlaGranny]

59. Are you for real?

This site is privately owned and they can allow or disallow any posting they like. I post here because I don't like having to deal with folks hypnotized by Hannity or lushes for Rush. There are lots of places to post on the internet with people of any stripe if all you like to do is needle folks and argue. We post here because this place isn't one of them. I have no idea why you are still here, but I wish you would go away. From your posts so far - you have absolutely nothing to say of value, i.e., your presence here has no value. I certainly hope you have more value in your life than you are showing us here.

[etherealtruth]

53. I think it's lonely

[rosesaylavee]

25. Just another disgruntled

former Republican who can't understand what happened to what Republicans stood for - namely:

1. Fiscal responsibility
2. State rights
3. Less government
4. Personal accountability

Those representing the above now are Democrats. So, I find comfort knowing that there are others missing these same elements in the Bush Administration.

Thats why I post here.

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[rosesaylavee]

32. No dear - former.

You see, by careful rereading of my post, you would understand that I was actually responding to your question as to why I post here.

[Cats Against Frist]

34. The troll is not going to answer your question

I've asked it a million times -- even made a 21-point list about how the GOP isn't for the free market, small government, states' rights, etc.. I'm a libertarian, and I know. They're just a bunch of right-wing authoritarians, pushing their own archaic views, and looking for a strong father figure that they can worship, and a mythology, so they don't have to think.

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[Cats Against Frist]

40. Thanks for the "tu quoque" response

Too bad that's not an argument -- and I'm not talking about message boards. I'm talking about political philosophy. I agree with you that many Democrats are left-wing authoritarians -- except for the "establishment dems," who are actually moderate (authoritarians). You've just forgotten what "moderate" is, since your party is run by a pack of far-right-wing ideologues.

By the way, did you know that the right wing has an elitist, intellectual component, too? Try googling AEI, the Heritage Foundation and "the noble lie." And try to read anything that doesn't come up from NRO and Town Hall, about it -- because they've propaganda prepared for any freeper who tries to grow a brain. And do you know what they think of you? Do you know what you're own party thinks of you, as a constituent? They think you're a fucking idiot who needs to be lied to -- that's what they think.

I wouldn't worry so much about pacifying your low-self esteem by hating liberals, as I would trying to figure out why your own party thinks you're sub-human jelly.

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[Cats Against Frist]

44. Why are you so obsessed with DU?

I've managed to be a libertarian, on this board for over a year, and I haven't been banned, but, trolling over at FR, as a libertarian, I was banned after about 100 posts. I know that "your site," lets people debate, in a forum -- and I wouldn't mind seeing something like that on DU, but that's not my decision. I know that it's been proposed, a couple of times. If you think that my services are needed over at your web site, I'd be happy to register, and debate you, there. I'd mop the floor with your ass, there OR here, either way.

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[Cats Against Frist]

49. I don't know -- you seem pretty boring, so far

but if your name is "fresh harbor," over there, then I'll register as Cats Against Frist, and you can find me. We'll start with my 21-point list of why the GOP is right-wing authoritarian, and no more for the free market, the Constitution, libery, small government or fiscal responsibility than anyone else. Except libertarians, of course. If you look closely, you'll also see that ALL the reasons favor pork and corporations, which own our government, thanks to the elites you have running the GOP -- first, and foremost Connecticut Frat Boy & his Fake-O Ranch. You know they purchased that ranch as a prop, right? And that Walks-Like-A-Monkey, Talks-Like-A-Monkey is afraid of horses...

Are you sure you're ready to be so dis-illusioned, so early in the morning...?

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[Cats Against Frist]

55. Uh, you haven't "debated" anything

You've only repeatedly knocked on DU, on their potential censorship, while you continue to bug us. I don't know if you think I go to sleep with a picture of Skinner tucked in my panties, because I'm a DU member, or what, but, if you do -- you'd be wrong. I don't think you're going to get too far with berating DU. Members don't care so much about that, as the trainwreck that is our current political state. Your little micro-bubble of Internet drama is tiresome.

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[rosesaylavee]

38. I know

But earlier I was commending Evil Queen on her stamina in responding to disrupter silliness - thought I would push the limit of my own. But hey, I have a life and have to log off to start my day.

[SaveAmerica]

52. How childish that you are patting yourself on the back for being

a fake a fraud and a phony. You've just summed up the republican party. Thank you very much. The joke is on you.

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[Maestro]

57. STFU

You represent everything wrong with America, arrogance and ignorance at its best! You are nothing more than a tool. I hope you don't get banned because I love to read the complete crap you spew. You show how dumb the radical right is!

[Catrina]

46. Well, I'm 'middle of the road'

and I'm still posting here at DU ~ typical, rightwing thinking. They really are delusional, having been brain-washed for so long by Rush, Hannity et al. I, eg, used to listen to Rush Limbaugh, for years there was only one voice on AM radio, and it became more and more hateful as time went on, turning off middle-of-the-roaders like me.

I wonder what the poster thinks of FR since s/he is so concerned about freedom of speech?

BTW, I loved your 'long and tired statement' evilqueen and I guess it wasn't too 'long' or 'tired' for the 'clueless rightwinger' to come all the way over to DU to read! :rofl:

Why DO they hate America so much?

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[Koyaanisqatsi]

17. Well said! Would nominate, but I don't have enough posts....heh

I should start replying instead of just reading this message board, eh? :)

Nice work evilqueen.

[Hissyspit]

68. Cool username, welcome to DU.

[converted_democrat]

28. That was terrific. Good job!!

Wonderfully written and so concise, good job!

[Independent_Liberal]

51. Kick!

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[KyndCulture]

60. Nominated and kicked for my girl, Evil Queen. You rock! nt

[merh]

61. Ditto - you do rock evilqueen!

:yourock:

[Nothing Without Hope]

63. Excellent! And here are two editorials on war expense and massive GOP pork

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2021276
Thread title; NY Times op/ed: "The Trillion-Dollar War" - How many realize how much {they are paying for Bush's wars in CASH, let alone the deaths, maimings, trauma, and all the other horrors here and abroad?}
Even a minimum estimate, assuming military presence in the Middle East for another 5 years, adds up to over a TRILLION dollars, something like $11,000 PER HOUSEHOLD in the US. And for what???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2021361
Thread title: NYT op/ed on Republican PORK - PORK - PORK in Alaska - YOU'RE paying!
Hundreds of millions of dollars for useless and unwanted projects go to favored GOP Congressmen's districts. But among these, the take for the two Murkowskis in Alaska is really, REALLY over the top. Murkowski has been useful to the Bushies for fighting environmentalists over oil drilling in wildlife preserves - he gets hundreds of millions for useless highways as thanks. Read this - and save it to show to people who STILL trust Bush.

[txindy]

65. Wow!

[Kire]

66. The Barbarians are inside the gates.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/barbarian_invasions/

[Robbie Michaels]

67. Nominated & Kicked

Well done!

[Booster]

70. Good rant, evilqueen, and I agree with every word of it. Kick

and nominated.

[WillyT]

71. Recommended And Kicked !!!

:woohoo::yourock::woohoo: