Is Condaleeza Rice 'evil'?

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

By and according to the official definition in our world book, does the actions of Condaleeza Rice and her mannerisms related to world government constitute as "evil".

I would say that Condaleeza Rice, while greedy and divorced from reality, was not immediately evil based on the broad brush definition back in 2001.

However, after meeting with Douglas Feith and Paul Wolfowitz, as well as other neocons Condaleeza Rice fell to the prey of greed, and thus all actions since that day have proved she is absolutely evil to the core and has bought the whole definition of evil hook line and sinker.

This is something I would rarely say about a black person, but not today with her. Condaleeza Rice is evil, and meets all criteria of being an evil disorderly oil baron.

It is in my view that this woman has disgraced the Congressional Black Caucaus, is an egotistical maniac, and will therefore go to hell as a result. This is my final diagnosis.

What would you say about her?

[mopaul]

1. she does make my flesh crawl, a sure sign of evil

yes, she is as evil as a snake. charming, smiling, 'articulate' and pure evil through and through.

[Lochloosa]

2. Rhetorical question....move on

[wli]

3. yes, Condi's evil n/t

[Fridays Child]

4. I think she's so driven to achieve that it matters not to her...

...what it is that she has won for her effort. And, lest I get flamed for the comment, it doesn't necessarily follow that her drive is related to her sex or ethnicity.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

6. Not the same kind of evil as Cheney, but still evil. Good point. n|t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. you are on the right track

but her sex and skin tone do play a role. She must uber-succeed because of that and has used those two facets admirably to help her succeed. A hardened journalist, looking over her total abject failure in Iraq, the NSC and State would be raking her over the coals with razors. Her color and her sex prevent that. Your previously hard-boiled J-man is unconsciously preventing himself from being called a racist or a sexist, and therefore gives her a pass.

If you recall how Hillary was treated by the par-boiled NYNY press as though she were royalty, rather than a valid target for hard hitting questions and reports, you get a sense of what has happened to Condi. (Hillary had a few holes that were never poked - billing records, her National Health plan, and more - but the press never looked into that. I still think she would have won and she probably would have handled tough questioning beautifully, but it never came)

Unfortunately, Rice has lost sight of reality and has been co-opted, probably very willingly, by the Feiths and Cheneys. She follows their plan because they managed to make her important in their world and in her own eyes. She sees her current condition as one of success, because of the neocons and their philosophy. She is not mature enough to realize that the whole approach they promote is collapsing under its own weight of crap.

If she were truly brilliant, she could set aside the neocons and go her own way, but her training and indoctrination have been too successful. She is weak and will never let go of her safety line. Her brilliance is more a PR move, rather than a fact. Smart? sure? Co-opted? completely. I mean really, how often do you get a oil tanker named after you? You think that she might owe them something for that and her Board appointments?

On edit, I think that the Hillary - Condi comparison is quite valid.
Hillary is self made. She fought her way to the top, she took risks and created opportunities.

Condi was made by others, who planned to use her appropriately down the road. She is being groomed for the Neocon III invasion.
Reagan was Neocon one, with many of the same criminals present there, working their mischief here.
Shrub is Neocon two. Between term limitations and a general recognition that they really fucked up, they are getting ready for a loss of the House and the presidency. At the same time, they are building the groundwork for their third reign, under a puppet who they master called Condi.

[Fridays Child]

29. Your analysis is excellent and on the mark.

[FlyByNight]

5. Don't know about evil...

but certainly soulless. A complete sellout.

[hwmnbn]

7. she tells evil lies.....

that proves it to me.

[Lena inRI]

8. And she thinks she's cute, too. . .

Someone tell her she's one

u g l y

evil

nerd

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:thumbsdown:

[mopaul]

9. only her invisible boyfriend, signifigant other, male companion knows

why can't this creepy woman get a date?

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[freshharbor]

11. She is BEYOND EVIL!!!!!

As well as her masters in the 'white' house.

[timtom]

12. How can anyone arrogate to themselves

to call another "evil?"

It's quite simple, really! Condoleeza Rice is EVIL!!

There. I, too, have said it. And I mean it.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Yes... What would you say about her?

She's an alien lizard. :puke:

[Missy M]

14. Rice has all her mental faculties about her, she is of average..

intelligence yet she continues to go along with the bush doctrine so that makes her EVIL!

[marcus_b]

16. Look at this banner.

I made this banner for the 2004 campaign.



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[HereSince1628]

17. Yes. She conspired to lie a nation into killing more than 100000 people

and is condemmed as evil by the fruits of her labor.

If you think killing civilians in another country is evil, she could also be considered evil for conspiring to lie a nation into a war that has so far killed over 1860 of her nation's own people and wounded near 20,000.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

18. but as an USAF pilot once told me, dropping a bomb is

very different than straifing a live person.
One is clean, cold, clinical and painless.
The other stays with you forever.

She has only seen the clean, cold clinical reports; she has never seen the fruits of her decisions up close. Nor will she. I don't really think that she is incapable of empathy, but I do think that her indoctrination and purpose blind her from ever seeing the reality of what she has caused and the instability that now exists. Is she consciously evil? I don't think so, not in the same light as Cheney, Wolfowitz or Feith. But deluded, controlled, brain-washed over a decade? yes.

[HereSince1628]

22. I respectfully disagree, Clean hands and no visual memory

of death mean nothing to me.

I think the concept you propose is dangerous to world peace and would make impossible the prosecution of leaders who decide to break international laws to persecute illegal wars.

She willingly participated in a conspiracy that intended to kill the leadership of a foreign government and promoted decision making that intentionally acquiesced to the killing of thousands.

I am not going to excuse that by saying she was somehow brainwashed.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. you may be right. It is a failure of mine to give benefits of doubt

But, I am cynical enough not to be surprised when it is not warranted.

she may be more than a willing participant, and a product of their planning. If so, she is evil.

[Callalily]

19. She is a disgrace

to womanhood and to her race.

[Frustratedlady]

21. I think Condi is just....

following the edict of the Extreme-Christian-Right-Wingnuts by being submissive in order to please her husb....er, boss. :eyes:

The only instances of emotion/adoration I've seen from Condi are when she's been caught in those rare on-camera moments of gazing lovingly into W's eyes. She is definitely smitten with Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie.

[mtnsnake]

20. People like her, Bush, Giuliani, & Rumsfeld simply trigger a reaction

called "Change the Channel Instantly Syndrome!"

[bribri16]

24. Yes, And she thinks more highly of herself than she ought.

She is an articulate "ass-kisser" and not a strategic thinker nor is she brilliant.

[deminks]

25. She is a pathological liar.

I will always remember the PDB being "Historical in nature" lie she told Congress and the American people.

[LibDemAlways]

26. If the job title on your business card reads

"National Security Advisor" and you receive word that a known enemy plans to inflict major damage on the nation -- "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S." during a "summer of threat" - and you sit on your ass and do nothing because you secretly want him to strike, need him to strike so that you and your cohorts can being a war of aggression against an oil-rich nation that had nothing to do with the terrorist strike against you in the first place -- I'd say that's the very essence of evil.

[indepat]

27. Evil is as evil does

[Bassic]

28. She is the Lord of Darkness' concubine

Any questions?