is it already too late?

[wli]

Poll question: is it already too late?

There is such a thing as "too late." This article describes how historically, things can get to the point where all the political opposition to despotism and warmongering in the world can be insufficient if it's taken up too late.

The fact that fascists have either encroached on the US government or have taken it over outright is indisputable. Now the question is whether it's already too late.

I don't want potential vote-splitting, so I'm limiting the choices (not even leaving space for "other.") Please do chime in with alternative assessments in comments, though.

[whistle]

1. Sorry, too late for what? To do anything about encroaching fascism

...to remove the fascists, to restore our individual constitutional rights? "Already too late" is kinda' vague as a polling question regardless of the referred article.

[wli]

2. removing the fascists and restoring democracy to the US

It's still fascism even if the figureheads change.

[whistle]

7. The people just need the will to call these fascists on their actions...

...arrest those who are the leaders, round up the true believers and either execute them for their crimes against humanity or lock them away in the prisons and detention centers they themselves have built.

All it takes is the will and the courage to take back what rightfully belongs to us.

[AussieDave]

3. It's never too late, but it's going to take some

serious de-programming of many people.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. That's an excellent article

I especially enjoyed (if you could call it that) Prof. Haushofer's poem Schuld (Guilt).

My quibble with the idea of the boot-heel of Fascism decending on the face of Freedom is that it really doesn't hold anymore. In Fascism, the people mattered enough that the Fascists made it important to debase, control, and use them. In our modern system, the people are largely bypassed, having been detatched from the tools of participation in their civic lives.

The danger isn't from Fascism so much as an anti-human technocracy (for the pro-human variety of technocracy, check out M. King Hubbert's other writings -- but note that I am not a technocrat myself and have a number of arguments with it, also). It has several advantages over Fascism, not the least of which is its efficiency. Instead of regarding the Common Man as a mindless brute, the modern synthesis regards him as a weakling trapped within an easily-exploitable mind.

I don't think it's too late. History is always happening. But now, it is our turn to make it happen -- for the advantage of all people, not just the power-obsessed.

--p!

[halobeam]

5. Excellent article.

I hope more people read it in it's entirety.

I don't think it's too late. I do feel however, that more people need to speak out, get louder and way more often.

[Independent_Liberal]

6. Good article.

I don't think it's too late to change things. We do have the power to change the future. We just have to stay calm, look deep within ourselves, and we can easily figure out a way to change things for the better. I think if we get too negative, pessimistic or act defeated, it will only make matters worse. We have to stay persistent and keep fighting and eventually things will change. Many of the people on this board have good ideas. I think we should put these ideas to good use. You never know what might come in handy. That's the way I look at it. Does anybody else agree?