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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:58 AM
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Bush Apologist Denies Social Rights For Women In Iraq
I was watching Meet The Press and an apologist for the Bush administration commenting on the lack of securing social rights for women in the proposed Iraqi constitution said" that women's social rights are not vital to the evolution of democracy." He also said he would be content if Iraqi democracy resembled American democracy at the turn of the eighteenth century...


Wasn't it Bush who always yelped that you could judge a society by the way it treats its women; that their emancipation goes hand and hand with social progress...
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:02 AM
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1. I think that apologist needs to learn what democracy is...
..because a society that denies rights to women isn't any sort of democracy...

Violet...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:05 AM
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2. "women's social rights are not vital to the evolution of democracy."
When HALF of a population is denied "social rights" (read basic human rights) IT IS A FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY.

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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:07 AM
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3. Women were much more free under Saddam. n/t
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 AM
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4. So, by same logic
does that mean he would be content to have OUR democracy resemble the turn of the 18th century? Women, jest git back into your place & everythin' will be fine!:sarcasm: :grr:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:11 AM
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6. Considering the Robert's nomination to the scotus ...
... I have no doubt that would be more than acceptable!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:10 AM
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5. A situation that Bush would love to return this country to.
Those durn wimmin are screwin' up traditional family values. Don't they know that havin' a pack a babies and cookin' and cleanin' is real good fer 'em?

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:16 AM
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7. But He's Always Yelping About Women's Rights..
I have read that women are afraid to walk on Iraqi streets without the veil....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:35 AM
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16. Yeah. He's always yelping about freedom and democracy too.
With the same amount of sincerity that he talks about "compassionate conservatism".
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:17 AM
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8. I saw that...almost fell out of my chair
Wasn't one of the selling points of the war the fact that Iraqi women didn't have equal rights under Sadam? Didn't Laura remind the Murikan public of that on quite a few occasions? He said that Murika in 1900 was a democracy even tho women didn't have the right to vote, and that most people would be thrilled if Iraq had a democracy akin to that of ours in 1900. Hmmm. Assuming that half of Iraq's population is female, I wonder if half of the Iraqi population would be thrilled.

Whoever that guy was...I hate him.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:19 AM
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11. Also....did you notice that shit-eating grin that David Gregory got
right after that idiot's remark? David had to end the program right at that point, but I could tell he was dying to have the guy "expand" on that statement.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:21 AM
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12. Women Had Equal Rights In Iraq...
They were equally repressed by Saddam but Iraqi women were the most emancipated women in the Arab world with the possible exception of Egypt...


Men and women had equal rights but they weren't much rights at all....


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:25 AM
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14. We also Had Segregation Then...
I suspect the Kurds will play the role of African Americans in the new Iraq...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:18 AM
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9. I have a question:
Why isn't this issue eliciting more attention (outrage would be better) here on the DU ... the fact that the MSM barely concerns itself with the issue is sadly not surprising (albeit disgusting that the MSM would ignore basic human rights violations of 1/2 of a population!)

Have I missed the outrage on the DU? All I've seen are a handful of posts with 5-15 responses (mostly the same posters trying to keep the subject alive) ... please tell me I'm wrong....
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:49 AM
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18. Your not wrong but with all the outrages adding up, sometimes
others get drowned out, what you can do is make sure these latest outrages get the attention they need....

There is so much to discuss and deal with that at times it can get overwhelming for some, doesn't make them less involved, it just means we need more hands....
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:19 AM
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10. So American boys and girls
are dying and being maimed to drag Iraq into the 17th century?

Is anyone going to say the obvious, that it was already as far as the 20th under Saddam?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:22 AM
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13. I Might Have Phrased It Wrong...
The Bush apologist referred to early 1900s American democracy...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:31 AM
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15. Oh that's MUCH better ...
:sarcasm:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:42 AM
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17. Oh, well
Why do I think that he means pre-Teddy 20th Century?
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