Another Democrat says stupid thing. Senator Levin

[FloridaPat]

says if the Iraqis don't get their act together, we should leave. Therefore, if they get their act together, then we stay and help.

On CNN

[Straight Shooter]

1. Who is going to define "getting their act together"?

Seems to me they've got it together, and the act can best be stated as Islamic Theocracy.

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Well duh

I wonder why they can't...let me think about it for a second...a war perhaps? I mean c'mon duh!

[still_one]

3. I think the implication is different than what you are painting

if they don't get their act together we should leave immediately, verses going through a training process

Personally, I think it is over, and the sooner we are out of there the better for everyone

[bemildred]

4. The Butt-Covering begins. nt

[Solly Mack]

11. Precisely

[DawnneOBTS]

5. I was watching it...

...and what I got out of it is that they can't possibly get their "act" together because of the United States' bad decisions, judgements, actions, etc. If that is indeed what he was saying, I think he's right, there is no possible way of it all coming together, it is passed the point of no return.

[XanaDUer]

25. That's how I interpreted it.

:shrug:

[AuntPatsy]

6. Which leaves me with an idea that we should start threads detailing.

good quotes from our Dem leaders as well as little known soldiers working behind the scenes trying to help get our country back from those who are so abusing it.

[niallmac]

7. Was the common Iraqi on the street better off

with Saddam in power? Does the name Tito (don't think entertainment) have relevance here?

[WMliberal]

8. want to hear him say stupid shit? read his stances on CAFE standards

and any greening of the auto industry. He even whores for them when it comes to offshoring of jobs.

[HawkerHurricane]

9. Ummm....

Senator, if they get thier act together, there's no need for us to stay.

[seabeyond]

10. they arent going to get their "act" together, first step to leaving

[AuntPatsy]

13. Who's they?

[seabeyond]

15. iraqis. are not going ot get their act together

they are going to continue to fight until we leave. so basically this senator is saying, we need ot leave. we just have to get them to that point. of saying out loud, we need to leave

[AuntPatsy]

16. As more and more of "they" continue to shoot at our soldiers, you

would think that would have said it all....

I guess some people dont need to be hit over the head with a sledgehammer or mowed down with a ak 47 to realize something is amiss, they need to hear it verbally?

[seabeyond]

17. and pictures drawn, and hand language, and spelled out

yep. silly isnt it. like the dsm. not shit. but still....... people resist

ah the challenge. i often say, like talking to a 2 year old

[madfloridian]

12. I wondered if I were the only one angered by that.

He avoided giving an answer about the fact their might be an theocratic govt there now because of us. He sounded as though the Iraqis were lazy and couldn't get their act together.

I was sort of in shock. I am going to find the transcript and post his words later. Then I think I will write him.

Does he talk this way all the time? I never paid much attention.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Wow, could we have a little context? Did he say "therefore" or is that...

...your conjecture? How about an exact quote? This thread is totally irresponsible.

NGU.

[madfloridian]

20. No, actually Levin did not sound very good on this.

I don't think it is an irresponsible thread. He was putting the blame on the Iraqis for not getting things done. He said if they don't we will have to stay....something like that.

It was pretty sad. I will find the transcript and post later.

[ClassWarrior]

21. When it begins with "the good guys did something stupid again"...

...and it doesn't even cite a transcript to back it up, it's an irresponsible thread. And notice that the OP hasn't bothered to return to defend his/her/its handiwork.

NGU.

[FloridaPat]

22. My conjecture.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Translation: "The Iraqis are ungrateful to us for wrecking their country."

If those unAmerican Ayrabs had only played their parts as written in the Glorious Liberation script, everything would be hunky-dunky.

How dare they want to run their own country without our "help"?

[xchrom]

19. lol -- i have no idea what levin is talking about.

are we going to measure the mess we've made and make a decision based on that?

how suspicious we are of a multitude of bad guys?

what?

[FloridaPat]

23. Well everyone keeps using the "when they stand up we stand down"

quote. Well, there are 130,000 or so of us and apparently 170,000 of them. So, why are we stil there? It's because not all of the 170,000 are trained. Well, now we have 30,000 trained was it? So way aren't 30,000 of our troops out of there. The repub kept saying these guys are with out folks on all the military things that are being done. That apparently is their training. After 3 years?

[JNelson6563]

24. I don't get it

He voted against this war, offered an amendment to lessen Jr's power to declare war and has spoken out strongly against the whole mess every time I've seen him since.

Julie