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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:36 AM
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War Backers Set Up Camp Near Bush Ranch
I almost didn't make it past the first three words: "A PATRIOTIC camp..."

Sunday August 21, 2005 2:01 PM
By ANGELA K. BROWN
Associated Press Writer

"CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - A patriotic camp with a ``God Bless Our President!'' banner sprung up downtown Saturday, countering the anti-war demonstration started by a fallen soldier's mother two weeks ago near President Bush's ranch.

The camp is named ``Fort Qualls,'' in memory of Marine Lance Cpl. Louis Wayne Qualls, 20, who died in Iraq last fall.

``If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that,'' said the soldier's father, Gary Qualls, a friend of the local business owner who started the pro-Bush camp. He said his 16-year-old son now wants to enlist, and he supports that decision.

Qualls' frustration with the anti-war demonstrators erupted last week when he removed a cross bearing his son's name that was among hundreds the group had put up along the road to Bush's ranch.

Qualls called the protesters' views disrespectful to soldiers, and said he had to yank out two more crosses after protesters kept replacing them.

More at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/21/AR2005082100302_pf.html
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:37 AM
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1. i'm drinking a patriotic coffee right now
and sitting in a patriotic chair, whiLe typing on my patriotic computer.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:10 PM
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14. Isn't that "Liberty coffee"? Fine stuff! Almost as good as "Liberty Gin".
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:12 PM
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16. What happened to "Freedom Coffee®"?
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:41 AM
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2. Gary Qualls is insane! Does he subsist only on Kool-Aid??
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:07 PM
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13. That's pretty much the first thing that came to mind as I read this:
"If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that.''

Wonder what Mrs. Qualls has to say about that.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:12 PM
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15. Not to mention any other children he has
Mayhaps they would have a different opinion????
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:48 PM
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19. My link from earlier this afternoon has now become a story...
re the Baez concert. Hmm. If I recall from the original article, Qualls has a 16-year old son just itchin' to go to I-raq.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:56 PM
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37. Hmmmm
Well, if he goes (and it looks like he'll have a chance if the Army is saying 4 more years), then I will wish him the same as I do with anyone going over -- a safe return. I am reminded of a scene from "Gone With the Wind", when the first heavy casualty reports came in after one of the big battles. The town's doctor's oldest son had been killed and his youngest started blabbering about how he was going to enlist and kill a bunch of Yankees. Sounds like the Qualls kid may be thinking the same way -- he's going to go revenge his brother (can't say I don't understand why he might feel that way), but I don't think he really knows what he would be getting into. He may only be hearing the "patriotic" words of his dad. Pity the man would be willing to lose yet another child for this obscenity.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:15 PM
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39. How does a 16-year old get whipped in to such a...
"freedom ain't free" frenzy? Definitely from his Dad and growing up on Faux "News."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:06 PM
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26. Why doesn't he SACRIFICE his
own Stupid ASS?
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:54 PM
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33. "Cindy Sheehan, right, and Bush supporter Gary Qualls of Temple, Texas...
hug at her camp near Crawford, Texas. Qualls' son, Marine Lance Corporal Louis W. Qualls, was killed in Fallujah on Nov. 14, 2004. Qualls answered an invitation from Sheehan to meet with pro-Bush parents that lost children in Iraq. Qualls was the only parent that came."

I really hoped for some progress based on "the hug," then realized Gary Qualls is this Gary Qualls.





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YWNM Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:11 PM
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28. Maureen Dowd wrote this about Cindy Sheehan
in The New York Times:

"the moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."

Do you agree?
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:43 AM
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3. I notice they didn't say how many are at the pro war camp
They tend to leave facts like that out when they are embarrassing.

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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:26 PM
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17. Or that they can't spell...among other things.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:44 AM
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4. Liberal media strikes again...
Unfortunately, this is an AP story, so "A patriotic camp" is how the wing nut's counter protest will be presented in most of the newspapers across the land.

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:44 AM
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5. How is their enlistment drive going?
Yeah, I thought so...
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:45 PM
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18. I might actually support the 9/11 festivities in DC if these "patriots"...
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:46 PM by TWriterD
were marching from the Pentagon to The Mall with stops at recruitment centers along the way. My guess is that it will be out-of-shape Middle America who won't be able to complete the 2-mile march. And I'll be watching from right off the bike path - gotta witness this spectacle first-hand.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:12 PM
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29. I'll, fortunately, be out of the
Country and will have to read all about it on DU when I get back about the 16th of September..I'll have so much reading to do.

Stay well watching the "spectacle".
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:34 PM
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30. Thanks, and safe travels to you.
I don't have a digital camera, but this event just might get me out to crappy Best Buy or Circuit City (whichever one is the bluest...).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:41 PM
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31. I need a digial camera,
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:05 PM
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34. Costco must sell them, but I haven't ponied up yet...
for a membership. Am moving soon from small condo to relatively big townhouse - guess I can now join the ranks of those who purchase 24 rolls of paper towels and 64 ounce jars of mayonnaise.

http://buyblue.org/detail.php?corpId=17

Amazon is 41% light red.

http://buyblue.org/detail.php?corpId=34
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:45 AM
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6. It's a free country
If a guy wants to sacrifice his whole family for Bush, he should be free to do so. There's no law against being stupid.

The anti-war people planting crosses should perhaps take care only to plant crosses for those who did not want to die for the greater glory of Bush.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:45 AM
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7. I heard a radio interview with Qualls: Ed Schulz
say what you will about his loss, but he typifies the UTTER ignorance, jingoism, and blind hatefulness of the far right

let me put the accent on ignorant

really really ignorant; sounded like he didn't even make it to high school
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:45 AM
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8. Once again you see the unimaginative nature of conservatives.....
They can't think of anything to do until we give them something to imitate.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:52 PM
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22. Yeah, that came to mind immediately -- rather laughable.
It oughta get REAL interesting it Sheehan, et al. wend their way to D.C.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:46 AM
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9. Two points
Protest is a contitutional right, it is disrespectful to our country to oppose any protest

but the most important point:

Mr. Qualls, you were lied to, your son died for NOTHING. I understand how you cannot accept that. What parent could say that his son's death was for oil company profits, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11

Maybe in time you will come to realize the truth. Right now it is purely a rationalization and defense mechanism for you, but I find it quite selfish that you feel quite committed to sacrifice other peoples children also

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:11 PM
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10. What ever happened with that "move america forward"
protest and the bus caravan? Wasn't it supposed to be in crawford this weekend? Gee, was it cancelled for lack of interest????
These people are pathetic.

I read elsewhere that this Qualls nut said he would sacrifice his entire family for the Iraq war... Oh dear god, what is wrong with people?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:41 PM
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11. how can you admit your son died for nothing?
in addition, quall's thoughts are that if I am going through this loss, why not others?

In reality, he could actually give a meaning to his child's death, by trying to convience other kids NOT to go to Iraq

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:15 PM
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12. LINKI to Yahoo article
War Backers Set Up Camp Near Bush Ranch
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050821/ap_on_re_us/peace_mom
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:53 PM
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23. Same thing happened to my Wash Post link...
it became: "Baez Performs Near Crawford War Protest."
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Shadowen Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:50 PM
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20. I've got some bits of string...
...that say Bush goes out to meet them.

That would be a PR coup. For liberals.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:52 PM
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21. "God Bless Our President!''
Why? Did he sneeze?
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:03 PM
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24. That's not very "patriotic" of you! :-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:05 PM
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25. WHY AREN'T THEY SETTING UP
CAMP IN IRAQ?
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:09 PM
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27. Someone needs to send letters
to the Associated Press complaining about that lead sentence. The writer had no reason to editorialize in using that "patriotic" word in the lead at all. AP should know better than this ! ! !
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:45 PM
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32. They ought to be setting up camp near Tikrit... or Basra.. or Nassiriyah.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:07 PM
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35. I'm going to go take a patriotic shit right now.
Gimme a break. This is nothing but more empty rhetoric. Crap, invented by a bunch of empty-headed morons who have swilled too long from the trough.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:51 PM
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36. Lovely...LOL.
Sex will bring down a lock, what about scatology?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:01 PM
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41. Well, I wasn't descriptive.
I think that would be what brings down a lock. :shrug:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 PM
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38. We ate Freedom Fries and Liberty Catfish fillets for supper...
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:19 PM
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40. BULLSHIT!!!!!! "A PATIOTIC camp" - WTF????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Immediately implies that "other" camp is unpatriotic.

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
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