Joan Baez to perform at Camp Casey Sunday, 6-7 pm

[Generic Other]

From the Crawford Peace House Message Board:
She will be here tonite - around 6-7pm she'll play. Get into town much earlier than that so you can make it to the new site to see her by then, otherwise traffic will be backed up and you'll be sitting in your car or waiting in a shuttle line instead.

http://crawfordpeace.nfshost.com/node

[Generic Other]

1. Posted link here:

8/21 ALL DU Cindy threads DAY 15
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4413475

Please recommend the "All Cindy thread" for greatest page as it helps keep the information at the top.

[WiseButAngrySara]

11. I'd nominate if I could, but too few posts! Your efforts are admirable,

Generic Other!

[Generic Other]

12. Thanks! It takes a DU village to get the REAL news out!

We have BECOME the media!

Welcome to DU.

:hug:

[kliljedahl]

13. I did it for you

[sam sarrha]

2. pulling out the Big Guns Now..!!

[MnFats]

3. The freepers will go apoplectic now....do they have

adequate security down there?

[Generic Other]

4. The cops are being very supportive of Camp Casey

so far so good...

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. They can get Ted Nugent or Charlie Daniels

or Toby Keith to perform for their group of FOUR protesters across the road from Cindy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Four protesters are not enough to feed the HUGH11 egos of those

three *loosers* :evilgrin:

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. Well I figured

they would have plenty of room for the bands to set up


or they could always play from the back end of Larry's pickup.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. Those freeps don't even have enough sense to be embarrassed

do they? They are totally eclipsed by Camp Casey. They would slink off home if they had any pride at all.

[peacetalksforall]

5. Thank you, Joan.

[Imagevision]

6. Hope that this will bring other entertainers/celebrities out!!

[Generic Other]

8. Pssst...I heard Martin Sheen among others next week!

They want to support Cindy, not take away from her action.

[jimshoes]

7. I wish I could be there for that

She has the most beautiful voice. Peace out, Joan. Please, someone take some video.

[ooglymoogly]

21. yes somebody please please take a video

and post it.

[burrowowl]

46. YES! Joan Baez!

Yes!
pics and videos please!
And a report of the songs she sings!

[anarchy1999]

63. Hearing her sing "Where have all the flowers gone" nearly did me in.

It was awesome. A big tent, on the Texas prairie, as the sun went down.

I'll never ever forget it. I just wish all of you could have been there.

[rainman99]

9. Green Day dedicated a song to her last night on

their Dallas stop. The song was Wake Me up When September Ends.

[Cha]

16. Thank you! That brings

tears to my eyes..I love those guys~GREEN DAY~! :loveya:

http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?pls=music.live8_us_berlin_no_int&start=19&_AOLFORM=w708.h344.p7.R1

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

22. Me, too! A freeper at work won tix to see them in Vegas in a couple

of months. I'm LOL to myself; would love to be a fly on the wall when they sing "Holiday" and bash Bush. Tee hee!

[rainman99]

26. What's funny is that the girl I went with is a W supporter.

I don't know what she thought about some of it but she's
the one who invited me to go!

[rainman99]

25. It had to be the best concert I've ever seen.

Full of love.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

28. We saw them in Norfolk back in April, and they were awesome!

One of the best shows I've been to.

[WiseButAngrySara]

10. I LOVE Joan Baez! I heard this last week on DU and wrote a song for

Cindy as a result.

[sattahipdeep]

14. These celebrities who will be entertaining the Sheehan supporters

do not want publicity, are giving their time to
show their support and are there in solidarity.
The general public is not encouraged to attend
the entertainment portion of the weekend's events.

The Lone Star Iconoclast :shrug:

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/33news20.htm

[Generic Other]

31. I think they mean they want to support Cindy

not promote themselves or their celebrity status.

If you are at Camp Casey and you support her, you will find some other "ordinary" citizens who happen to be world-famous all support her too!

[lebkuchen]

15. Cool. Bush gets a free concert

Or will such events encourage him to spend more time in DC in the future, performing his duties?

[Botany]

18. I hope she sings "Joe Hill"

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night
Alive as you and me
Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"
"I never died," says he, "I never died," says he.

"In Salt Lake, Joe, by God," says I
Him standing by my bed,
"They framed you on a murder charge."
Says Joe, "But I ain't dead," says Joe, "But I ain't dead."

"The copper bosses shot you, Joe,
They killed you, Joe," says I.
"Takes more than guns to kill a man,"
Says Joe, "I didn't die," says Joe, "I didn't die."

And standing there as big as life
And smiling with his eyes
Joe says, "What they forgot to kill
Went on to organize, went on to organize."

"Joe Hill ain't dead," he says to me,
"Joe Hill ain't never died.
Where workingmen are out on strike
Joe Hill is at their side, Joe Hill is at their side."

"From San Diego up to Maine
In every mine and mill
Where workers strike and organize,"
Says he, "You'll find Joe Hill," says he, "You'll find Joe Hill."

*******************************************************************************
Watch the pigs in the controlled media make Joan's act of kindness
into some sort of left wing nut ball action.
But 10 of millions everyday listen to Rush, watch Fox, or get their
spiritual guidance from Pat Robertson.

[jimshoes]

24. The media thinks their

brain stem is their heart. They have never known what a real heart is. Joan could teach them.

[nofurylike]

19. wonderful! thank you for telling us, GO! thank you Joan! eom

[ooglymoogly]

20. fabulous...kick n nom

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

23. Any way we who can't be there can see this?

[struggle4progress]

27. "It's walking to the battleground that always makes me cry

I've met so few folks in my time who weren't afraid to die
But dawn bleeds with the people here and morning skies are red
As young girls load up bicycles with flowers for the dead

An aging woman picks along the craters and the rubble
A piece of cloth, a bit of shoe, a whole lifetime of trouble
A sobbing chant comes from her throat and splits the morning air
The single son she had last night is buried under her

They say that the war is done
Where are you now, my son?

An old man with unsteady gait and beard of ancient white
Bent to the ground with arms outstretched faltering in his plight
I took his hand to steady him, he stood and did not turn
But smiled and wept and bowed and mumbled softly, "Danke shoen"

The children on the roadsides of the villages and towns
Would stand around us laughing as we stood like giant clowns
The mourning bands told whom they'd lost by last night's phantom messenger
And they spoke their only words in English, "Johnson, Nixon, Kissinger"

Now that the war's being won
Where are you now, my son?

The siren gives a running break to those who live in town
Take the children and the blankets to the concrete underground
Sometimes we'd sing and joke and paint bright pictures on the wall
And wonder if we would die well and if we'd loved at all

The helmetless defiant ones sit on the curb and stare
At tracers flashing through the sky and planes bursting in air
But way out in the villages no warning comes before a blast
That means a sleeping child will never make it to the door

The days of our youth were fun
Where are you now, my son?

From the distant cabins in the sky where no man hears the sound
Of death on earth from his own bombs, six pilots were shot down
Next day six hulking bandaged men were dazzled by a room
Of newsmen. Sally keep the faith, let's hope this war ends soon

In a damaged prison camp where they no longer had command
They shook their heads, what irony, we thought peace was at hand
The preacher read a Christmas prayer and the men kneeled on the ground
Then sheepishly asked me to sing "They Drove Old Dixie Down"

Yours was the righteous gun
Where are you now, my son?

We gathered in the lobby celebrating Chrismas Eve
The French, the Poles, the Indians, Cubans and Vietnamese
The tiny tree our host had fixed sweetened familiar psalms
But the most sacred of Christmas prayers was shattered by the bombs

So back into the shelter where two lovely women rose
And with a brilliance and a fierceness and a gentleness which froze
The rest of us to silence as their voices soared with joy
Outshining every bomb that fell that night upon Hanoi

With bravery we have sun
But where are you now, my son?

Oh people of the shelters what a gift you've given me
To smile at me and quietly let me share your agony
And I can only bow in utter humbleness and ask
Forgiveness and forgiveness for the things we've brought to pass

The black pyjama'd culture that we tried to kill with pellet holes
And rows of tiny coffins we've paid for with our souls
Have built a spirit seldom seen in women and in men
And the white flower of Bac Mai will surely blossom once again

I've heard that the war is done
Then where are you now, my son?"

- Joan Baez

[thecrow]

29. Thank you Joan, for your time and talent

I hope her performance will kick off a musical support of Camp Casey.
CSN anyone?
Dylan?
Joni?
Come on out and join up with the other entertainers
Sing your songs of peace!

[Old_Fart]

30. "Damn, I wish that I could be there"

:argh:

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[Generic Other]

33. 1,360,000 answers on GOOGLE

Go try it youngster.

:hi:

[DemoTex]

34. Were you there? At Dong Ap Bai I mean.

Hamburger Hill.

[rateyes]

35. Doesn't look like he's answering DemoTex...

wondering if you were there at Hamburger Hill? And, BTW, thanks for your service!!

[DemoTex]

36. I was in Vietnam a year after Hamburger Hill.

However, I flew many missions over Dong Ap Bai in the A Shau Valley.

[Generic Other]

37. My son's father was in Hue 1968

Not the best place to be.

Peace.

[DemoTex]

41. Hue and the Perfume River 1971

[Generic Other]

43. I'm afraid to ask if that pic is from a bombing run

It looks like it.

The guy I knew was on the ground. He came back unscratched, but he didn't come back without a liftime of pain. Wow. That picture really brings back some strong emotions.

Thanks for posting it.

[DemoTex]

44. No, it was from an electronic counterwarfare mission.

Our patches read, "Alone, Unarmed, and Scared Shitless."


Dong Ap Bai (Hamburger Hill) after the battle.

[kestrel91316]

49. Hey! My dad was a USAF EWO flying recon out of Takhli Thailand.

Were you one of those guys?

[DemoTex]

54. Yep, US Army issue flying US Navy aircraft. Army ASA. Same mission.

On edit: What was your dad on? EC-121 (really old Lockheed Conny), EC-130? Other?


DemoTex

[kestrel91316]

56. Nope, they were flying EB-66s and other B-66s modified for

reconnaissance and electronic countermeasures, and they flew in support of reconnaissance drones. They flew over NVN, very hazardous. He got the DFC and some others, including the Air Medal.

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[Tsiyu]

72. Nice work

Did you think that up all by your little self?

Hey, are YOU going to Crawford to support Cindy? Hmmmm?

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[rateyes]

55. Being born in '60...

I was a little too young for Vietnam. My father-in-law left for a year to 'Nam a week after his daughter (my wife) was born. Some things he just won't talk about.

Met a guy who was living on his own--something not quite right with his mind...told me he had been a medic in 'Nam---that before he went it was his dream to be an MD, but 'Nam changed all of that...

In his yard one day I saw a rig he had made up to kill weeds on his property. He said, "That's the same stuff they used in Vietnam to kill all the foilage." That's when it hit me what had happened to him. I asked, "Did you get that stuff sprayed over you?"

His response: I don't want to talk about it anymore. So we didn't.
Sux what that war did (and this one is doing) to good people.

[anarchy1999]

64. My grandfather said the same to me as he used it on our ranch in

North Texas. It had another name though. DDT and a number or something. He was using it through the late 80's. I went balistic on my entire family when I learned this.

In Texas they were still selling it to farmers and ranchers.

[rateyes]

71. Agent Orange!

It turned a brilliant person into a shadow of his former self. And, seeing what I knew he had to see as a medic in that war, I'm sure, didn't help either.

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[burrowowl]

47. Welcome to DU, wippersnapper!

Go listen to some Joan Baez!

:hi:

[kestrel91316]

48. Silly ApBai! Joan is only our greatest rebel voice!

[DemoTex]

57. Anyone named "Ap Bai" knows exactly who Joan Baez is.

See my subsequent posts. See "Ap Bai's" (none). IMHO, an "Ap Bai" without a VSR (that little ribbon to the left) is a liar and a Chicken-hawk. I hate to be so cruel, but I think the motherfucker is a liar. To represent oneself as a participant in one of the most hidious battles in the history of the US military - Ap Bai - and to not have been there is, well, despicable. I call you out, Mr. Ap Bai. Put your credentials on this line. I think that you are de facto tombstoned. Adiaos motherfucker.
Mac

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[Bridget Burke]

67. Those who do not listen won't hear very much....

Joan Baez has been touring & recording steadily throughout her long career. It's been a long time since the Folk Boom & there's always a new Flavor of the Month.

She has also continued to work for progressive causes. Nothing as "newsworthy" as an OD & time in Rehab.

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[Bridget Burke]

81. No, just the truth.

Do the Billboard Charts dictate your musical tastes? Yes, Britney Spears sold far more records than Joan Baez last year. Will Britney still have any sort of career when she's Joan's age?

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[rateyes]

85. IMHO, yes you did...

I've searched all your posts, and in the 23 of them almost all are designed to bait folk into argument. Almost all responding to you find your posts "odd" for this forum.

[rateyes]

76. You're right DemoTex...

I did a search for all of his 23 posts since April when he "joined"------freeper---

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[SCRUBDASHRUB]

51. Who is Joan Baez? Are you kidding me?

I'm 34, and even I know who she is. That question makes me feel old.

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[tomg]

68. Thanks, ApBai

I've been thinking about your initial post where you kiddingly asked
"Joan who," and the responses you got ( I was going to respond earlier with something, but was slow so deleted). At first, I figured you were ignorant, when your handle - as DemoTex pointed out - would suggest you were anything but. As is obvious now, the ignorance was mine. I imagine I am your age ( roughly), was politically active ( in and out, released as a CO) at the time. I can even tell you where I was when I first heard Baez sing "I Shall Be Released" and dedicated it to her then-husband David Harris. What Dong Ap Bai actually meant and stood for passed right over me. I think very few of us would catch the reference, and there is something terribly wrong with that. I wonder if thirty years down the road somebody will use the name Fallujah or Tikrit or some other place, and people won't remember. So, again, thanks. Your mild good humor has given me a lot to think about.

[DemoTex]

78. Prove it to me brother.

Prove that you were in the 'Nam and at Ap Bai! Sorry to have to ask that, but your original posts were so weak! The "I was kidding you" defense is sticking hard in my craw. Why are you here? Why do you chose a name like Ap Bai, unless you were there? If you were really there (and I hope and pray you were .. to make such claims), describe a daily event that was not included in the movie. E-Z question.
Mac



Ap-fucking-Bai! What is wrong with this pic, sir? Answer, and you might gain my respect.

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[Bridget Burke]

82. Just because he was smart enough to get into Flight School....

I can understand your resentment.

But you do have the terminology down--impressive research!

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Glossary/Sixties_Term_Gloss_K_P.html

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[faithnotgreed]

42. thank you ms baez

you are a treasure

[Booster]

45. Blessed are the peacemakers. I'm kicking this for Joan, one of

my heroes. Beautiful woman, beautiful voice, beautiful heart.

[fooj]

50. What an experience. I wish I could be there...

Peace.

[burrowowl]

52. Hope we get some news from

people at Camp Casey soon!

[Fescue4u]

53. sweet. Its turning into one hella party.

Im trying to finaggle my schedule so that I can pay a visit later this week.

got my fingers crossed.

[anarchy1999]

65. Please, Please, Please! This is not a f'ing party. OKAY!?

Please! If you are wanting a party, go someplace else.

[Fescue4u]

66. Maybe not, but it has all the hallmarks

of maybe one of the greatest this decade.

Peace is worth celebrating, even if its not here yet.

[anarchy1999]

69. Have you been to Crawford in the last few weeks? Hallmarks?

Just what exactly is your "hallmark" of a party in this decade? Oh yeah, let us all celebrate "Peace".

I'm sorry Mods, I can't stay silent any longer.

Dear Fescue4u (as in the grass?),

You are an idiot.

Peace,
anarchy1999

once again mods, please forgive.

[Fescue4u]

70. Whats your problem?

I won't alert on your post so that everyone can see how rude you are being.

I understand your point about it not being a "party". (and I do think that you take that label to far)

But great things develop their own momentum and develop a life of their own if they are to be successful.

Which would you rather have? 100,000 people there demanding peace with wall to wall 24x7 MSM coverage? Or a few hundred that with bare MSM coverage and which peters out in a few weeks?

The end result is what matters...not whether or not the protests conforms to your rules in your mind.

And NO, fescue refers to a sideline business that I had when I first joined DU a couple years ago (lawn care).

gheesh, lighten up please

[anarchy1999]

74. So sorry, I've lightened up and I'm so sorry I offended you.

peace out,
Fescue4u

Ps/Thanks for giving me a pass and not alerting on me. I really appreciate your understanding and then some.

"The end result is what matters...not whether or not the protests conforms to your rules in your mind." Truer words may never be spoken.

Guess what? I have a very small role in all this.

There are no rules, we are flying on a wing and a prayer.

Thanks again, Fescue4u.

[Fescue4u]

75. NP.

And for my part, I really didnt mean to make light of things there. I can see how that may have appeared.

best regards